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ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

Surely there most be some people interested in discussing this!

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ORIGINAL: catleggs

I'd like to thank, DiannaVesta for sharing that interview.  Was quite interesting, indeed. 
I can understand a hesitation in discussion with a title including "Christianity".  I'm sure there are many problems bringing the two dynamics, Christianity and BDSM practices, under the same umbrella in ones life.  Not to mention religion always becomes highly controversial in almost any discussion.  lol

As a Deist, I can relate to the interviewee on many levels although my take on spirituality is not quite the same, but more an appreciation, reverence and an exploration of the 'divine' in each of us, including the my self.  These discoveries are brought to the fore, for me, in a type of spriritual experience.  It isn't easy to explain it, and certainly not in words but if I look beyond all the social stigmas and expereince my feelings, thoughts and desires from a deeper level, AND find someone who expresses themselves from the same perspective, then the whole BDSM experience is far more, FAR more rewarding and fullfilling.  So much so, I find it can take me as much as a couple days to come out of the 'fuzzy euphoria' that is a result of such an extreame encounter.

As for the other aspects of the interview, I think the other regarding priority and the family commitment, I definately share simular opinions with you, Dianna.  I feel a professional CAN be seen as long as it IS in the context of moeny that the submissive would have spent on himself, not the family.  Otherwise, I feel he needs to examine his priorities.  If I am aware that his priorities are skewed, then I will simply refuse to have further contact.

Thank you again, for sharring that pod cast.

Cat

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

For some reason, I wasn't able to access the link, which is a shame.  I would have been very interested in hearing it.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Dianna, thanks for going out of your way like that.  I hope to hear the podcast later this evening and talk about it then.

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta




Thank you and you are welcome.


  I honestly wasn’t sure how many people would “get it”. Not to say they are ignorant but that it can be difficult to understand. I am with you on seeing divinity in all things. I know this seems like a contradiction of sorts given my interest in female supremacy; however that also is a multidimensional dynamic that can easily be misunderstood. In a nutshell…


  Metaphysically speaking there are many planes of existence and especially in the here and now where almost anything can manifest and take whatever shape we perceive. That’s a fact so I believe that our perception is our own unique language that learns, grows and projects. This is microcosmic and these little details is what makes us human and unique. As I express myself through female domination it allows me to obtain a higher level of consciousness that balances me within a macrocosmic world. In the big picture I do believe in equality and that there is no separation, however as you move around on the earth, the here and now you are battled with obstacles and separations. I have always believed D/s was a tool to shift extremes to bring to center/balance.


  Damn did any of that make sense? Lol




Yes, it made sense lol ..like I said, difficult to explain, and putting it into words, even worse.

Yamasta   'I salute the divine within you'

Cat

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta





Thank you and you are welcome.


I honestly wasn’t sure how many people would “get it”. Not to say they are ignorant but that it can be difficult to understand. I am with you on seeing divinity in all things. I know this seems like a contradiction of sorts given my interest in female supremacy; however that also is a multidimensional dynamic that can easily be misunderstood. In a nutshell…


Metaphysically speaking there are many planes of existence and especially in the here and now where almost anything can manifest and take whatever shape we perceive. That’s a fact so I believe that our perception is our own unique language that learns, grows and projects. This is microcosmic and these little details is what makes us human and unique. As I express myself through female domination it allows me to obtain a higher level of consciousness that balances me within a macrocosmic world. In the big picture I do believe in equality and that there is no separation, however as you move around on the earth, the here and now you are battled with obstacles and separations. I have always believed D/s was a tool to shift extremes to bring to center/balance.


Damn did any of that make sense? Lol


We’ve also had the discussion in a previous thread about married men stepping outside the marriage to fulfill “needs”. Does anyone remember the name of that thread? It was a few week ago. It discussed how it is possible to enhance a marriage if the professional handles the relationship correctly. Maybe someone will post that link to that old topic.


I’ve met guys that were out and out selfish whores that cared more about their dicks then their family. I’ve also met men that truly adored their wives, family and felt a deep sense of guilt & often depression because of their needs. That affected every single aspect of their life. For most of these men its’ not about getting off but expressing a deep desire within them and being able to tap into and subjugate to the Divine Feminine… no matter what you choose to call it, it is in fact feminine. When you help them heal this connection they become strong in all aspects of their life. They learn, grow and are then able to project this magic onto their wife. {and life} (my addition)

ps: I ended up going to the site, making a profile, and due to the lovely (not) dial-up, have not been able to listen to that interview yet. I really enjoy john and what he has to say, so hopefully  I'll be able to listen to it soon.

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ORIGINAL: ededwards

I enjoyed the interview. I fully identify with his perception and his description of himself as a servant rather than a submissive or a slave. As my Christian spirituality deepens servanthood becomes more and more relevant for me. I especially enjoy serving people who have suffered  in life and have severe self esteem issues. That is outside of the context of this discussion but relevant to my experience because I am finding a deeper level of satisfaction in serving dominant women. I am also amazed that the women I contact have a high  propensity for spirituality. As a newcomer seriously exploring the lifestyle 2 of the women I have contacted are "real deal" Lifestyle Dominants (not pros)and both are deeply spiritual. We have hit it off and have developed quite a robust rapport.