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KnightofMists -> Leather? (11/9/2007 1:23:20 PM)

yeah.. I know some people hate labels... but labels are here to stay so deal with it!


Leather!   Another label that is tossed around.  I am sure it means different things to different people.

So.. What does Leather mean to you?




missturbation -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 1:31:46 PM)

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yeah.. I know some people hate labels... but labels are here to stay so deal with it!

Don't want to !! (said petulantly)
 
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So.. What does Leather mean to you?

Not very much except that it is what my shoes in general are made of [:D]
Oh and my fave dress, chain and leather and it smells so good [:)]
 
Oh and now i'm thrown off my train of thought, as i just got a nut in my fruit and nut chocolate and i don't like them [:'(]
 
Seriously, i know absolutely nothing about the 'leather' lifestyle so this will be interesting for me.
End of seriousness, i need a good leathering [:D]




RCdc -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 1:34:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

yeah.. I know some people hate labels... but labels are here to stay so deal with it!


Leather!   Another label that is tossed around.  I am sure it means different things to different people.

So.. What does Leather mean to you?



.pleasure.
 
the.dark.




BitaTruble -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 1:35:18 PM)

in the same way that xtians think of the bible, that's what i think of leather. it's part of my core, my beginning and a source of inspiration. when my hand heals within the next few days, if this thread is active i will join in more throughly.

celeste

edited to add - if archer chimes in here i can probably just say ditto to whatever he has to say - he, to me, is an excellent example of a leatherman




wisteriaV -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 1:51:20 PM)

Hm leather..smells good , looks good, feel great when being cropped, flogged or used in other ways ![:D]




chellekitty -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 1:56:47 PM)

community




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 2:13:42 PM)

To me... leather means the difference between serious road rash and just bruises. It's also protection from hard shelled insects smacking you in the arm at 60 miles an hour and it helps keep you warm and half-ass dry in the rain... But that's the biker in me, I see leather as a necessity.
 
Jewel




IrishMist -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 2:20:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

To me... leather means the difference between serious road rash and just bruises. It's also protection from hard shelled insects smacking you in the arm at 60 miles an hour and it helps keep you warm and half-ass dry in the rain... But that's the biker in me, I see leather as a necessity.
 
Jewel

LOL that was my first thought too Miss Jewel; that it was protection from the road .




MadRabbit -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 2:31:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

yeah.. I know some people hate labels... but labels are here to stay so deal with it!


Leather!   Another label that is tossed around.  I am sure it means different things to different people.

So.. What does Leather mean to you?



Hmmm....

A philosophy of protocols, traditions, and ideals that apply to all the aspects of BDSM (A lot of my influences come from Leatherfolk).

A close knit sense of community and family..

Hot, rough, painful sex.




azropedntied -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 2:34:37 PM)

My feelings exactly , community , tribe , brother and sisterhoods formed ,education, and more .Sure i also love the textures ,smells , protection,fashion end but there is something about the history and earning your leathers [:)][
quote]ORIGINAL: chellekitty

community
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IrishMist -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 2:38:08 PM)

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Hot, rough, painful sex.

OO




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 3:05:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

To me... leather means the difference between serious road rash and just bruises. It's also protection from hard shelled insects smacking you in the arm at 60 miles an hour and it helps keep you warm and half-ass dry in the rain... But that's the biker in me, I see leather as a necessity.
 
Jewel

LOL that was my first thought too Miss Jewel; that it was protection from the road .


Okay, I gotta admit.... A guy with a nice ass in leather chaps, a vest, and boots... nothing else... To me, that's the real pleasure of leather!!
 
Jewel




Rover -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 4:15:29 PM)

To me, "Leather" is evocative of a community of serious BDSM enthusiasts (as opposed to weekend warriors).  Whereas "leather" is an animal hide that can be made useful in some pretty interesting ways.
 
John




Durus -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 5:18:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

So.. What does Leather mean to you?



Leather means the tan skinned of an animal. Everything is is subjective.




chiaThePet -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 6:09:26 PM)

Well as long as the leather bears a decent label, Dior, Wang, etc., then
I don't really have a problem.

You're wearing leather, yes you are, oh yes you are.

chia (the pet)




mistoferin -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 6:15:11 PM)

Leather to me is a comfort zone that comes with a sense of belonging, a place where I am understood, a kinship.




Archer -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 6:23:34 PM)

Leather, When I speak of Leather I think of men returning from war, men who learned they were not alone, that there were other men who were gay and wanted something to be other than the stereotype of the "mary" sissy boys they had been taught was what homosexuals were like. I think of men who had learned brotherhood, discipline,  integrity, and other values that made men, men in battle and returned to the states located their brothers and passed on those traditions and values they had formed. I think of the rough  trade days, Biker bars of the 50's and 60's where the men circulated and mixed with each other and took the traditions and built upon them. I think of the need to confidenciality because homosexuality was liekly to get you jailed or beaten by the cops or both. I think of jobs lost because someone found out. I think of that community banding together to protect their own first from discovery and later from HIV. I think of community action to help brothers and family, and then turning the activism and fundraising to a wider group of charities. Leather conveys a sense of family formed by choice rather than bloodlines.

Leather was chosen because it was the road armour they wore to protect them while they rode. It adapted to be the armour that protected them from bashers, from folks who still felt the need to attack someone because they were different. Symbolic they were not the sissy boys that the bashers thought them to be. Men testing their limits of pain, of love, of discpline.

Fast forward through the years of exclussivity to the years of activism and the ranks swell with first lesbians who had formed their own groups parrallel to the men's groups, and a few radical heteros who saw beyond the gay label and saw people practicing radical sex, forming lovong relationships, celebrating themselves. On through the years as they shifted from exclussivity to inclussivity a merging of BD-SM lifestyle people who had shared many of the same publications and contact mags.

These are the things I see when I look back at the history of what is now called Leather.




chiaThePet -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 6:30:44 PM)

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Damn.

chia* (the pet)




azropedntied -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 6:32:05 PM)

Awesome Archer , thats what i also speak of,  that can not be bought in a store at the mall .




IrishMist -> RE: Leather? (11/9/2007 7:02:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

To me... leather means the difference between serious road rash and just bruises. It's also protection from hard shelled insects smacking you in the arm at 60 miles an hour and it helps keep you warm and half-ass dry in the rain... But that's the biker in me, I see leather as a necessity.
 
Jewel

LOL that was my first thought too Miss Jewel; that it was protection from the road .


Okay, I gotta admit.... A guy with a nice ass in leather chaps, a vest, and boots... nothing else... To me, that's the real pleasure of leather!!
 
Jewel

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GOSH.........please........stop teasing me




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