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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/6/2008 3:02:23 AM   
DomAviator


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Utterly disgraceful.  He should have them and their families rounded up and shipped to Gitmo as subversives. They need some time in a camp for reeducation. If they cant respect the man, at least respect the office. I couldnt stand that weasel Clinton, but I held my tongue until he was out of office out of respect for the Presidency.

Also bipolar - dont hold your breath for Obama to take office... Its not going to happen. If it takes Hillary in a book depository its not going to happen. Make no mistake, she may be standing beside him now, but back in May she was trying to stir up an assasination. Any semblence of party unity she is putting on now is just to put on a show for the 2012 "I told you so" tour. Due to his age, McCain will likely be a one term president - positioning Hillary nicely for 2012. If Obama is elected, that doesnt give Hillary another chance on the ticket till 2016 if he is elected to a second term and his VP doesnt decide to run, or 2020 if he makes as big of a clusterfuck of things as I think he would considering his complete lack of experience managing anything of signifigance and a republican is elected in 2012, or 2024 if Obama does two terms and then his running mate does two more... I dont see her waiting 8 - 12 - 16 years for another shot...

Between the vicious opposition he will face from the Conservatives - and boy do we have some rabbits to pull out of the hat before November, the racist factor of the poor and blue collar white democrats who would vote for Elmo before they would vote for a black man, the angry women who were rabid Hillary supporters, the substantial Jewish democrat voting block who would elect Josef Mengele before they would elect someone of Arab descent, and  the behind the scenes politics I am sure Hillary is going to be playing to position herself for 2012 Obama has one hell of an uphill battle ahead. The only person who wants John McCain elected more than me is Hillary Clinton!  

I think the Dems really fucked this one up... What I would have done, and as a republican I thank God it didnt happen this way, would have been to nominate Hillary and have Obama as VP. His time as VP would have given him credibility... Right now he has none, he is a freshman Senator who doesnt have a resume adequate to get him a job with my company... The biggest thing the man ever managed was a non-profit "The  Developing Communities Project" - which had 13 employees and a budget of $400K. To put things in perspective, your average McDonalds has more than 13 employees and $400K in cashflows and I doubt anyone would say that being a McDonalds manager qualifies you for the oval office. By comparison your average Navy squadron - such as the one McCain commanded (managed) has 30 -36 officers, 250 or so enlisted men, and a budget and assets of several billion dollars.

I readily admit I dont like the man for any of 1,000 reasons I wont list - but he is simply not qualified for this job. Look at his resume and think long and hard what he is qualified to do besides teach constitutional law. The Presidency has very little to do with constitutional law as it is the execuitive branch - ie management! Obama might be a decent attorney general, and with some experience on the federal bench he could have made a plausable democrat supreme court nominee but he doesnt have the management background to be President. The biggest thing he ever managed was smaller than a fast food outlet, and that doesnt qualify him to manage a country. An intermediate stop as say "Governor of Illinois" may have been a wise move to pad his resume with some experience, but a hell of a lot of us - both republican and democrat - see past the cult phenomenah and dont think that a freshman senator with no real world experience running anything is qualified to serve as chief executive of this nation.

I dont think "President Obama" are two words you will hear, at least not this time around...

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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/6/2008 4:19:40 AM   
farglebargle


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If they cant respect the man, at least respect the office.


Since Bush doesn't respect the office, why should anyone?



< Message edited by farglebargle -- 7/6/2008 4:20:37 AM >


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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/6/2008 5:55:50 AM   
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This Bush admin. is the current culmination of the power of the neocons...serving the banking and industrial interests and started a century ago without the label. The Bill of Rights is just a temporary obstacle. Bill Clinton was an aberration that cut short his ole man (Bush I) yet still played ball and even though $65 miilion of OURS were spent to investigate and attempt to impeach him. Hell hath no furry like a neocon scorned.

It is up to us now to completely disenfranchise and dissolve these neocons. The neocons are not real conservatives and have tried to ride the coattails of conservatism's political ascendency and have done so with amazing success.




The Cons and the SP's are both a danger to freedom. Both want to manipulate us into bigger government control and then they can be the one that purchases the government, in their opinions. Both assume they are smarter and better suited to run our lives than we are.

While many of us do little more out here than bitch on message boards and in coffee shops, (coffee shops that are closing by the way, I suppose that might be the neocons attempting to distroy the natural habitat of the SP.) I myself am for constructing the CS (common sense) affiliation. This party would ride in the middle and not be ashamed of changing ideas with the times and most certainly would run candidates based on their ability versus their party affiliation. The sad part is these new party candidates can't afford to spend 500 million dollars to take on a job that pays several hundred thousand. You see that is because common sense won't allow you to do something so retarded.

They have you all doing just what they want, bitching and complaining over the small and segregated shit while they(big business) buy each and every politician (regardless of affiliation) that crosses the threshhold of any and all governing structures. Honor and integrity have been marketable commodities since the dawn of time.

I would suggest it were time we did more than drowned out a bad speaker, or that its time to stop accepting one particular side simply because it's the "best" alternative; both parties in this country have lost their way and they've lead us down some poorly lit path to bondage. It seems the whole country is into BDSM roleplay. 

{I am an American and I'm not simply an independent, I'm MADD. (This message was brought to you by Men Against the Destruction of Democracy) while this final comment was meant in jest, perhaps it should be brought into the realm of reality}

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Caution: My humor is a bit skewed.

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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/6/2008 9:09:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomAviator

Utterly disgraceful.  He should have them and their families rounded up and shipped to Gitmo as subversives. 

You are an utter disgrace to the oath you claim to have sworn.

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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/6/2008 9:25:53 AM   
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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/6/2008 1:15:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomAviator

Utterly disgraceful.  He should have them and their families rounded up and shipped to Gitmo as subversives. 

You are an utter disgrace to the oath you claim to have sworn.


I have to say, after hearing DA's "I'm only obedient to my oath if I think I'll get caught" hypothesis, I'd agree.



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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/7/2008 4:59:31 PM   
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Why should his oath mean more than Bush's ?

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Oaths don't mean shit anymore.

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RE: Bush drowned out by shouters 7-04-08 - 7/8/2008 5:13:24 AM   
farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Why should his oath mean more than Bush's ?

T

Oaths don't mean shit anymore.


The *do* to people with a sense of Personal Honor and Duty.

Is an oath-breaker worse than a garden-variety felon? I'd say so.


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