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Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/16/2009 2:32:08 PM

littlesarbonn

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Okay, the title is a bit tongue in cheek, and I know that so many submissives comes to the boards to complain about the overflow of fake dominants emailing them in hopes of gaining some type of financial advantage over them. Most people who know me know that I try to stay away from the stereotype stuff, or at least really try, so I wanted to tackle this from a bit of a different angle. I know that when I sign onto the site (or just hang around the site), that's when I start to get random messages from so many women from bizarre parts of the country, telling me to email them at their yahoo mail, or contact them on their messenger, and then they'll decide whether or not to make me their slave/dominant. Yeah, it doesn't seem to make a difference to them, which leaves me wondering how lazy they have to be if they're casting that wide a net, but that's really for another posting, I guess.

My question seems to be more of a curiosity as to how this ends up turning into the money making scheme that it obviously is. Is it the old bait and switch where once they get you talking on messenger, they now tell you that in order to cum or whatever, you have to now open up your wallet? As I have no desire to pursue this in actuality (by contacting them), I'm curious where this actually goes from that initial contact. I mean, I get four or five of these messages a day when I sign onto the site. When I'm not on the site, those contacts are pretty rare. And I don't even have to check my messages most of the time to know they're fakes (if they don't check my profile and left me a message, chances are pretty good they're trying to take me for a ride).

Anyway, I'm just curious. Not interested in turning this into a complaint thread. Not really necessary. There are enough of those.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/16/2009 3:29:03 PM

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I have long wanted to start a squad of people who would agree to string one of these scammers along each week for a period of time...maybe when we are all unemployed....

I think the scam is that they hook you, then it becomes either a plea, a demand, etc. for money for whatever- move me, my master died, save me, come tend my goats, you can't cum...quack quack quack...

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/16/2009 3:29:59 PM

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It's September 16th today. Can I predict the future or what? ;-)

I had read a post or something on the web by a sub who had said it is usually a scam that involves purchasing a trial membership to another site. The attempt is to lure the sub with promises of photos and the like upon joining the other site. Either it is someone who is directly tied to the site, or there is a referral system. When one joins they then try to lure one to join additional sister sites. Sometimes these sites have a free or inexpensive brief trial period-- I expect the sites are counting on someone registering and then not canceling before the trial is over. Once the sign-ups have occurred, they disappear.

I was not able to find that writing but here is what I found now: According to these below, the joining is commanded.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Internet-Fraud/theonlinedatingclub/theonlinedatingclub-com-swee-646je.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Adult-Web-Sites/Ccbill-com/ccbill-com-they-aproached-me-t-68b79.htm

I also see profiles where the profile makes you wonder if they even realize it's a kink site. The description is usually broad to cast a wide net about interests, and presents the profile owner as the wild, adventurous sort. It's almost like it has been copied over from what was done for match.com or the like. Sometimes they have a yahoo address in the profile. I expect it is likely the same scenario.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/16/2009 9:08:35 PM

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When I used to chat with the Africans, it was just a matter of time before the story came out that they were stuck in Africa because they went there with their Master or family who dies there, and they would love to return to the USA but don't have the money.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 6:13:39 PM

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OtterSwim: What you are proposing is called "scam baiting" There are wonderful sites (you could Google) but LH is always helpful and points you to the grand-Daddy of them all: www.419eaters.com I've spent a few hours (too many, actually) reading archieved baits that have gone on for years! One of the fun things baiters do is try to get trophies - lingo for pictures taken by the scammers - but demanded by the baiters as a show of faith.

You must put a loaf of bread on your head and have a fresh fish in your mouth. Once you have performed this act, we will allow you to start a branch of our church in your country. You will then be eligible for many grants and services to come your way. We will send you $15,000 for you to build a building in your town.

And sure 'nuff the scammers send the pic, and the pic is posted and beats me why the scammers can't figure out what's going on. LOL! Probably because they don't want to share Mugus (scammees) with the competition. And that reminds me.... one of my favorites is when one of the Master-baiters (pun NOT intended) gets two scammers that have sent him the same letter and he plays them against each other!

The sex angle is new to the 419 "business," but just think of the trophies that could be generated!

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 6:59:07 PM

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When I saw your headline, I was shocked. Whoa, I thought. There is actually a real life Nigerian Mistress!

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 7:03:21 PM

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419 scam is called that because section 419 of the Nigerian Law prohibits "advance payment schemes." Outside of CM, the common approach is "I have access to a large dollar amount, but can not physically get to it because <fill in your own wild-ass story, but be sure to be a ministry official/or Nigeraian Prince/Princess> I need your help. I will give you<wild-ass> percentage of <wild-ass but MUST be in millions. LOL> dollars. In exchange, you must pay the storage fee of only $147.89 so that the proper letters of credit may be documented. Send a Western Union payment to my assistant <using MY real name so that I can get it.> Oh, yes. Once that is rec'd, I find that the treasure chest has been moved to another site, They are demanding $6,000.00 to release it. Please forward your payment to that same assistant. ETC.

In this instance, try offering a plane ticket and you will soon see that they want WU payment so they can buy it at that end. Then you respond: "I am not sending a mugu anything on Western Union?" or you can bait them, by giving them a false WU number and making them travel to get it. OR "Mistress, so that I can meet you at the airport, I need a picture of you. To build trust please make it show your breasts. I have had bad experiences giving plane tickets to Ladies, only to have them come to the US and find they had lied to me about the being a women. after I paid good money to get them here, they are MEN. Mistress, I wish you to come here, but I need this photo. I also need a copy of your passport to know that who you are is really you. [god! I'm begining to sound like them!] I really want to be at your feet Mistress, but I need to trust you." BE ready to receive some REAL howlers that give photoshop a bad name. Oh, and if you do his once or twice, guess what, you'll start to recognize the "passport."

I think that answers the OP. [Gosh! I guess I have been spending too many hours reading 419eaters. LOL]

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 7:17:01 PM

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I got one from a slave the other day. Sure 'nuff, his Master died unexpectedly while they were touring gay leather places in Berlin. Being the good slave he was, he had no money, and was living on the street..... But he had gone to the American Embassy in London <WHAT?> and they had arranged a flight for him <WHAT?> for only $215 <WHAT?WHAT?WHAT?> He never asked for the money <since there's a reporting category for that>, and I didn't care to find out what happens next. I just reported him and left it at that. (oh, I did let him know that Berlin and London are about 970 km apart, and I regret doing that because it pointed out his error and he won't be that obvious and the next CMer might have to go an extra time around.)

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 7:26:42 PM

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I first encountered the 419 scam in 1989, by fax; a letter on official looking stationery from a corrupt Nigerian businessman who needed help smuggling vast sums of money out of the country....
It has been 20 years, and I am quite sure the scam existed far before my first encounter, and will likely outlive all of us like the 3 card monte you see on streetcorners, which dates back to the Middle Ages.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 8:57:04 PM

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I agree no one should ask for money if their making the initial contact with a stranger. That's soliciting.

But to those subs that contact a Mistress and give a list of 100 things he wants done to him but doesn't want a paid session, if your hoping to "cum" but don't want to have to open up your wallet, don't forget if you treat a Mistress like a prostitute or a pro dominatrix then she might treat you like a client.

To those subs I say this-

-Try acting like a real slave and think about what you can do to serve the Mistress, not what you want to get out of her.

-Even when your dating you might have to "open up your wallet". Try not to think so much about money.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/17/2009 9:02:14 PM

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Should also add that I know lots of Mistresses that get emails from subs in India that ask for help in getting a visa to come to the USA and they even want their plane ticket paid for and a free place to stay too. Since when did being a Mistress mean being an immigration agent? And we're not into babysitting subs either. Pull your own weight.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/18/2009 6:16:03 AM

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Good advice - Post 9.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/18/2009 6:44:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

Okay, the title is a bit tongue in cheek, and I know that so many submissives comes to the boards to complain about the overflow of fake dominants emailing them in hopes of gaining some type of financial advantage over them. Most people who know me know that I try to stay away from the stereotype stuff, or at least really try, so I wanted to tackle this from a bit of a different angle. I know that when I sign onto the site (or just hang around the site), that's when I start to get random messages from so many women from bizarre parts of the country, telling me to email them at their yahoo mail, or contact them on their messenger, and then they'll decide whether or not to make me their slave/dominant. Yeah, it doesn't seem to make a difference to them, which leaves me wondering how lazy they have to be if they're casting that wide a net, but that's really for another posting, I guess.

My question seems to be more of a curiosity as to how this ends up turning into the money making scheme that it obviously is. Is it the old bait and switch where once they get you talking on messenger, they now tell you that in order to cum or whatever, you have to now open up your wallet? As I have no desire to pursue this in actuality (by contacting them), I'm curious where this actually goes from that initial contact. I mean, I get four or five of these messages a day when I sign onto the site. When I'm not on the site, those contacts are pretty rare. And I don't even have to check my messages most of the time to know they're fakes (if they don't check my profile and left me a message, chances are pretty good they're trying to take me for a ride).

Anyway, I'm just curious. Not interested in turning this into a complaint thread. Not really necessary. There are enough of those.

Some of them want you to buy them an airplane ticket I am guessing that they then go down and exchange the ticket for cash, I had another one who wanted C.C. information so she could transfer money from one credit card to another. I told her simlpy to go to the bank and do it that way, never heard from her again. Those who desire to chat I have a special yahoo IM I send them all to and then take great pleasure and knowing someone is sitting there waiting for me to show up.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/18/2009 11:23:55 AM

littlesarbonn

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves

I agree no one should ask for money if their making the initial contact with a stranger. That's soliciting.

But to those subs that contact a Mistress and give a list of 100 things he wants done to him but doesn't want a paid session, if your hoping to "cum" but don't want to have to open up your wallet, don't forget if you treat a Mistress like a prostitute or a pro dominatrix then she might treat you like a client.

To those subs I say this-

-Try acting like a real slave and think about what you can do to serve the Mistress, not what you want to get out of her.

-Even when your dating you might have to "open up your wallet". Try not to think so much about money.

Good advice as always, although I wonder why it was posted in response to my post. I don't believe I've ever displayed the mannerisms discussed here in this response and I've been known to advocate the complete opposite over the years in my participation on these boards.

And I've never tried to be a "real" slave; I've just tried to be the "best" slave I can be, always trying to do better and make the woman I'm serving as pleased, satisfied and happy as I can possibly achieve. My years of experience make that possible; my many successes and failures make it plausible.

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/22/2009 5:37:41 PM

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I came across this discussion and it cracked me up--it's people messing around with someone trying to get people to buy subscriptions to a web cam site. It gives a glimpse about what happens when one contacts via Yahoo messenger. This attempt to connect via yahoo messenger and seek subscriptions for web cam sites happens on vanilla sites too. I expect the CM profiles that look so vanilla (with first and last names) and yahoo messenger are ones that have been copied and pasted from what was created for the vanilla sites.

http://www.okcupid.com/forum?tid=17545669243280967030

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/26/2009 7:29:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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You must put a loaf of bread on your head and have a fresh fish in your mouth. Once you have performed this act, we will allow you to start a branch of our church in your country. You will then be eligible for many grants and services to come your way. We will send you $15,000 for you to build a building in your town.

A friend of mine recently did this to a guy from nigeria, offered him $25,000.00 to build a church as long as the guy got a tattoo.. 'baited by shiva' to prove his new found devotion to the church.....6 weeks later and after an ongoing message exchange the guy sends through several pictures of him getting the tattoo done and the finished result.... from looking at the pictures it does appear that the guy did in deed get the tattoo done..... i personally thought it was a step to far but hey i guess they dont think about us when they are trying to rip us off....

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RE: Introducing my Mistress from Nigeria to my family - 9/27/2009 10:17:14 AM

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I spoke to a girl from Nigeria I believe it was. Her plan was to set up a slave village in some region of the country where slaves would go and work in the fields (or mines, I can't remember). And after a 15 hour day they would go back to the village and they would see that the local dommes who ran the village were treated as they should. I thought what a fantastic idea for the extreme slave type out there. There was no talk of money, visas, being stuck there etc etc. But no doubt there was some awful scam involved, probably kidnapping too.

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