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thishereboi -> RE: hypnosis (2/10/2010 5:08:20 PM)
quote: plus is there such a thing as internet hypnosis? not sure, lets try. You are getting sleepy, very sleepy. You want to send me money, lots of money.

WannaSPOON -> RE: hypnosis (2/13/2010 8:41:16 PM)
Yes online hypnosis is possible, yes it's possible over the phone, yes "instant hypnosis" is possible. I have done all of these things, but only with someone I have put under in person. It takes a while to build up your repertoire of things with a particular person, they have to learn they can trust you and you have to learn how their subconscious operates (everyone is different). As mentioned before, the insta-trance stuff isn't hypnosis in the strictest sense, it's a trigger implanted during a previous induction. I do it where the subject will remember the state they are in and how they are feeling and be able to return to that when they hear me (don't want some dumbass abusing my work) say a certain phrase. It's very important to use phrases or triggers you wouldn't normally use in everyday interaction as that can have very...tragic consequences. Read, learn, talk to those who have done it, be careful, learn some NLP. These are all things that are paramount to being successful with hypnosis. The real reason it takes "years" to learn proper hypnosis is you have to build up your bag of tricks and know what signs to look for when something is going wrong then how to adjust to get things back under control. It's not so much a matter of formal training as it is knowing your limits and going very slowly. Being able to witness or work side-by-side with someone who is very experienced is invaluable for learning. Seeing how other people do things, learning different patterns of instruction and suggestion, is more useful than anything you will "learn" in a book. I have learned a ton by trial and error, but I was extremely careful not to venture too far outside of my comfort zone while doing it. I didn't start with an induction then immediately try to do an age-regression to "see if it works". Common sense to many, very hazardous to all. Rules for success: don't go beyond your limits, don't go beyond your subjects limits, read everything you can possibly find and find someone with a lot of experience to help you learn faster. -Eric

slavefinder30 -> RE: hypnosis (2/17/2010 4:48:16 PM)
There is no such thing as instant hypnosis. If you wish to produce an true altered state of conciousness with someone, through what is often called hypnosis, I suggest you take lessons from somone in your community who really knows what they are doing. If not, try some books on the subject. Anything to do with "Internet hypnosis" is almost surely going to be an attempt to "part a fool from his money."

DarlingSavage -> RE: hypnosis (2/17/2010 4:50:03 PM)
What? You mean to tell me that someone couldn't hypnotize me with emails? Darn, I was gonna get that book and take the 7 day online course!

Wolf2Bear -> RE: hypnosis (2/17/2010 5:01:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rorion what is the best way of instant hypnosis , i need to learn how to hypnotize a new slave boy . Im rusty on hypnosis plus is there such a thing as internet hypnosis? I know of no way to instantly learn how to hypnotize a person. Whether or not online hypnotism works I don't know and very skeptical . One thing I do know is you can't hypnotize a person if that person isn't willing.

WannaSPOON -> RE: hypnosis (2/17/2010 7:21:27 PM)
quote: I know of no way to instantly learn how to hypnotize a person. Whether or not online hypnotism works I don't know and very skeptical . One thing I do know is you can't hypnotize a person if that person isn't willing. quote: ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear quote: ORIGINAL: Rorion what is the best way of instant hypnosis , i need to learn how to hypnotize a new slave boy . Im rusty on hypnosis plus is there such a thing as internet hypnosis? I know of no way to instantly learn how to hypnotize a person. Whether or not online hypnotism works I don't know and very skeptical . One thing I do know is you can't hypnotize a person if that person isn't willing. This is somewhat of a misconception. You can't make someone do something they couldn't bring themselves to do even at their most subconscious level. There are many, many forces at work when it comes to the mind and many, many levels. Sometimes to get a desired response, all one has to do is go deeper; speak to a deeper part of the mind. It's very powerful and I learned just recently how dangerous it can be with someone who has questionable ethics. It took a lot of effort to undo his work, and there is probably some still there that couldn't be ousted. The mind is not a play toy, though it can seem like it is. It is very easy to do almost anything with the right phrasing and persuasion.

Lorenzo19 -> RE: hypnosis (2/24/2010 11:37:02 PM)
quote: at the demo he did he stated that at any time you are not comfortable with something said while in hypnosis you will naturally disregard the suggestion given. Isnt that what people do even when not under hypnosis? duh.

crazyml -> RE: hypnosis (2/25/2010 12:53:15 AM)
Could you clarify a couple of things? quote: ORIGINAL: WannaSPOON This is somewhat of a misconception. You can't make someone do something they couldn't bring themselves to do even at their most subconscious level. This is sorta ok, except that I would say you can't make someone do something that is ultimately against their will using hypnosis. quote: There are many, many forces at work when it comes to the mind and many, many levels. Sometimes to get a desired response, all one has to do is go deeper; speak to a deeper part of the mind. This appears to directly contradict your first statement you go from "can't make someone do something even at their most subconscious level".. to "all you have to do is go deeper" Not sure there is a deeper level of subconscious than the "most subconscious level. quote: It's very powerful and I learned just recently how dangerous it can be with someone who has questionable ethics. It took a lot of effort to undo his work, and there is probably some still there that couldn't be ousted. The mind is not a play toy, though it can seem like it is. It is very easy to do almost anything with the right phrasing and persuasion. This worried me, and given the level of expertise you claim to have I'm surprised to see you saying it. Hypnosis on its own is absolutely not as powerful as you describe - You may be describing a combination of the results of hypnosis plus NLP or CBT (the therapy not the torture) in which case if you have quite a big challenge. I'm not sure if you're suggesting that it took a lot of effort in your part to undo the "work" or whether it took a lot of effort by some third party to undo - If it was the former, then I'd strongly encourage you to get this person in front of an experienced, qualified and ethical therapist since, (and I say this with the greatest respect) at the age of 23 I think it's unlikely that you've had the necesary post-grad training and workplace professional development to deal with a challenge of this kind. Nor, I hasten to add do I.

cmar4u -> RE: hypnosis (3/11/2010 8:11:10 PM)
In response to a few questions, yes internet hypnosis is possible though less effective then on voice or in person. Different techniques can be used. As for the question on instant hypnosis, that depends. It refers to those who are immediately placed into a trance by, for example, a trigger. Often instant hypnosis can occur after trust is established and the subject is well conditioned.

Musicmystery -> RE: hypnosis (3/11/2010 8:17:54 PM)
quote: The secret techniques I learned from Doctor Fu Manchu cannnot be shared with the unworthy. When you have embraced the subtle path, perhaps we shall speak again. No worries....the clouded mind sees nothing... --Lamont Cranston

slaveboy1138 -> RE: hypnosis (3/11/2010 8:20:47 PM)
From what I understand is all hypnosis is self hypnosis and you can't really be made to do something that you don't first allow the hypnotist to do. On the other hand, a skilled hypnodomme could trick you into doing something by making you think that is what you want and therefore allowing them too.

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