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southerndom21 -> To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 3:24:10 PM)

If you have to how do you punish a sub online? i cant really think of any ways a sub/slave can be punished so i would like to know what all of you do if you have an online sub. thank you.




INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 3:43:11 PM)

I am sure I am going to get flamed big time, but DAMN THE TORPEDOS, FULL SPEED AHEAD!
I am sorry, I just don't get the "online" Domination, I am not judging anyone, I just don't see the thrill, to me this all has so much to do with all of our senses, how do you try and contain it in a basically one dimensional world? Do you ask for pictures? Sub, go beat your own ass, and take a picture!, It just does not compute for me. If I spank you, I want my hand to sting as much as your ass, I want to feel my hands in your hair, I want to see the look in your eyes, I want to smell the sweat coming off your body, I want to taste you! (I think I need a cold shower after that)
I respect everyone's deversions, and perversions, it is the Baskin Robbins theory, with 31 flavors, there has to be one that everyone would like, maybe that's it, I don't like ice cream!




sub4hire -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 4:04:23 PM)

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If you have to how do you punish a sub online? i cant really think of any ways a sub/slave can be punished so i would like to know what all of you do if you have an online sub. thank you.


I don't quite get it either inside. However, if you have to punish someone who is only online. How about you set a week or two with no contact from you at all? If you catch them in some room somewhere.....well then cyber relationship over?




NoCalOwner -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 4:08:02 PM)

You break into their computer, upload a trojan horse, then use it to activate their webcam and broadcast them in their robe, curlers and face cream. Humiliation Cam!

Seriously, I have a hard time with that question too. I suppose you could have them hook up a webcam, then watch as they punished themselves, but... I dunno, self-punishment just doesn't seem the same. Dildonics is barely off the ground, and something tells me that Internet-controlled floggers won't be happening any time soon. I've seen submissives allegedly carrying out tasks while hanging out with their Dom/mes in a chatroom, but that they're really complying would have to be a matter of trust. I can't come up with any answer that seems entirely satisfying, hopefully somebody that has done a lot of online D/s can share their solution.

Good luck!




INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 4:13:47 PM)

I agree completely, I guess its like I have been told, if God intended us to cyber, He would have given us three hands!




Mercnbeth -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 4:17:26 PM)

Well, before the mass flaming and flogging begin, we just wanted to let you know you have at least two people who agree with you. We agree "to each his/her own", but we consider on-line domination or submission to be just masturbation called by another name.

Although we've been convinced to appreciate how cyber sex and cyber D/s can make a LTR more tolerable between the times people can get together in person. We don't see how anyone can be exclusively cyber.

But the biggest issue I have (Merc) is someone who represents themselves as having xx years of 'lifestyle' experience and that experience turns out to be 100% on-line only; and then starts handing out advise about how to live in the lifestyle. At least qualify your opinions and recomendations by saying that your experience is limited to on-line only.

Merc & beth

PS (from beth) - In case you didn't notice this is one of Master's "Hot Buttons"!




sub4hire -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 4:35:23 PM)

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Although we've been convinced to appreciate how cyber sex and cyber D/s can make a LTR more tolerable between the times people can get together in person. We don't see how anyone can be exclusively cyber.


Have you ever had cyber sex together real time? That is the only type I like. Doug types, while pathetic woman claims she is doing something to him as he recites it to me I do it to him.
Generally you have to add a little more zest to it than they say they are doing, it still kills a day with nothing to do though.




Mercnbeth -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 5:36:04 PM)

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Have you ever had cyber sex together real time?


Gloria,

No.

Although it sometimes gets very heated, usually this slave sits on Master's lab naked as we chat, with the people who we chat and/or share our web-cam, we never let it get that far. We like the fact that it makes the meeting more desired.

In the past this slave has seen Master try very hard to convince some of the people who literally beg to cyber with Him and/or us to go out and meet some people in real time.

beth




INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 6:02:17 PM)

This says it all!

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proudsub -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/23/2004 9:36:00 PM)

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If you have to how do you punish a sub online?


I was trained online and punished occassionally. His favorite form was to deny me orgasms for a week or two, but i had to take myself to the edge frequently. Another was to wear my butt plug daily for two hrs for a specified time period (i liked that one LOL), another was to go shoping with a vibrator and/or plug in. Also if i came online wearing panties he would leave. All of the above involve complete honesty to be effective, but the relationship is meaningless without it.




Synocense -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 2:59:48 AM)

I will never knock the online D/s experience because once upon a time, that was all I was ABLE to get. For circumstances beyond my control, I was unable to go out and seek the hands on experiences I so craved, so in order to feed the hunger, even just a little, I engaged in an online relationship. It was satisfying for awhile, but then the hunger become too much and I had to expand, so to speak.
While in the online relationship, punishment was an issue, to be sure. Here are a few things the man came up with however.
1. Essays. Written essays on a specific topic given by you, relating to the "crime" - my present Master, though flesh and blood, once gave me a 5000 word essay! Ugh. I learned my lesson, I did. Couldn't have just have spanked me???!! hehe
2. Restrict computer use. Just to chatting with you for a certain amount of time. Done on blind faith, but much of the online experience is just that.
3. As someone else said, wear butt plugs while doing certain activities if butt plugs happen to be something not necessarily enjoyable on his/her own. Have the submissive then write about the experience.
4. Get on the phone if possible. With your voice, you should be able to envoke some strong reactions. It is easier to get across your disappointment and sometimes that in itself is enough of a punishment.

Hope some of these ideas interest you. Good luck!

Syn




cynnacent1 -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 5:44:22 AM)

i need to feel His eyes on me, knowing He is watching and enjoying the reactions of my body, the change in the rhythm of my breathes, the way my bottom rises in need and welcoming of each new pink welted hand print. i need to know He hears each gasp for breath between swats as His hand makes contact. i need to know He is taking pleasure with every whimper that escapes past my lips as He wraps His fingers tighter within my hair and tugs harder still. i need for Him to witness very closely the way my eyes are closed tight, my fists clenching the sheets, my hips rising in beckoning for more, my body trembling for release as my facial features portray the undeniable evidence of that fine mesh that exists as pleasure and pain become one. i need to know He hears my sigh of relief, and feels my warm sweat glistened body pressed against His when He holds me close and whispers words of praise and assurance afterward. -- Ooops!!! This thread IS about punishment, right ?!!?? *giggles* -- Regardless, i highly doubt that performing a punishment on myself while involved with One online would even hold any comparison for me. Simply put, the 'online thing' doesn't do it for me.

The simple knowledge of having displeased my Master would be an effective punishment, as my pleasure IS obtained in pleasing Him. For that reason, if He were to act indifferent towards me, ignoring my attentions toward Him and practically ignoring me, it would drive home the fact that He is not pleased & that thought alone would be quite effective. There is no punishment which could prove to be more of a lesson for me than that. As a result, i AM quite obedient and have rarely needed any other form of punishment to remind me of my proper place to date. --i am guessing this could work online as well.



'Other' suggestions in regard to creative online punishment for subs:


Light Punishment:

1. Instruct said sub to remove all but one stick of 64MB RAM and then attempt to run Yahoo!, MSN, or AIM messenger. -- Not entirely impossible, but certain to cause whimpers of serious annoyance, and will not cause a sub any long lasting side effects, or serious injury emotionally, physically or otherwise.


Moderate Punishment:

2. Instruct said sub to remove all but one stick of 64MB RAM and then attempt to run Yahoo!, MSN, or AIM messenger .... at ONE time! --Almost entirely impossible, and certain to cause whimpers of serious annoyance coupled with an undeniable level of frustration evident as said sub's PC freezes and eventually crashes again & again, and will not cause a sub any long lasting side effects, or serious injury emotionally, physically or otherwise (barring the possibility of concussion should said sub bang head repeatedly against monitor or keyboard due to said sub's discontentment with high levels of torture).


Heavy Punishment:

3. Instruct said sub to remove all but one stick of 64MB RAM while omitting to inform said sub as to the proper method of grounding oneself prior to touching the PC case. --While not at all impossible, certain to cause whimpers of serious levels of discomfort, lights to flicker, possible side effects such as hair loss, nerve damage, cardiac arrest, and violations in breech of warranty for said sub's PC maintenance agreement, as well as fatality of said sub. -- *** !! JUST JOKING !! Do NOT try this !!! Even the voltage contained by an UNPLUGGED PC WILL cause a sub long lasting side effects, and/or serious injury emotionally, physically or otherwise could even KILL, injure and/or seriously mame said sub !!! ***




cheeba0228 -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 7:14:39 AM)

Hey proud just curious in your online adventures did you use a webcam I find its pretty easy to punish/train online if you are using a webcam and Microphone. I.E. I've made a sub sit naked and put Icy/hot on their genitals, its no mistaking the reaction. Also you could have them kneel on a broomstick, sit naked with the airconditioner right on them, have them pee into a bowl and then have them either drink/pour it on them (depending on their kink and yours of course.) I think it is possible to train/punish online, but if a relationship is only online I agree whats the point.




sorriah -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 7:30:17 AM)

the fastest way for a sub to take notice that he/she is in trouble~ignore them for a few days~ silence kills you leaving your mind to wonder ~sorriah




Gem -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 7:38:02 AM)

Brightest Blessings

Like many here I don't get online D/s, don't get punishment either, however that is not the question you asked so I put my mind to work and here is what I came up with.

They have to write a eassy on why they behaved in a way as to warrant a punishment.

Then write an essay of why they wish to submit. Again answering why if they wish to submit they disobeyed.

Then find something that is creative to fit the crime. Let us just say they wore panties when they were not suppose to... fine you want to wear panties then you will wear used panties on your head, taking a picture and posting it to your favorite online group ( face blocked if need be). The panties must be worn everyday for 3 hours a day for a week. Or something like that, that fits the crime.


Okay I just had a thought are we taking punishment as in you disobeyed and I must correct you. Or you talking punishment I need to play sm games. Have found that folks call Sm punishment.. in my thinking it is a reward and punishment is reserved for
disobedience not sexual fun.

Blessed Be
Gem




sub4hire -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 7:45:53 AM)

After readint these posts. I have to admit, I could never be an online sub. It just isn't in me. I'd rebel, go jump on a plane and punish the alledged Dom I was speaking to.
I didn't read anything that could not be faked. Even with the webcam like I want to wake up someday and find out I'm the newest star of "x" website? Not going to happen.

I think if I only had online I'd have to be Dominant.




proudsub -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 5:25:40 PM)

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Hey proud just curious in your online adventures did you use a webcam I find its pretty easy to punish/train online if you are using a webcam and Microphone.


Late in our relationship we started camming. Since we were both married it was hard to find time alone for that. I was with Him for 2 yrs before i took it to r/l.




SentForu -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 5:45:20 PM)

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I'd rebel, go jump on a plane and punish the alledged Dom I was speaking to.


Gloria,
Would that make you a switch????....[;)]




Zensee -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 9:55:01 PM)

*Watches with curiosity, the people who have entered the Icecream Parlour and are now crowding the Icecream Counter bitching about how much they hate Icecream and how much contempt they have for people who DO like Icecream but advising the objects of their contempt on what toppings to get.*

southerndom21 - do you mean real or play punishments?

The issue is compliance and whether either punishment is effective depends on the sincerity of the submissive and whether they actually do as they are told. That depends on their respect and honesty and on your control. That said, what works as play or punishment in cyber is the same as what works in person. In fact, if a submissive actually does their own correction, as instructed by their Dominant, then that can be a stronger control experience than actually being there. Remote control is different, not superior - not inferior.

It's very easy for it to all be fake but when the control is real and the submission is real, it's as real as in the flesh. Submission and Domination are states of being, not physical places.




sub4hire -> RE: To all with an online submissive? (9/24/2004 10:01:53 PM)

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Would that make you a switch????....


Nah no orange or fig or avocado trees in my family heritage yet.




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