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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 3:38:21 PM   
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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 5:16:14 PM   
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I was hoping for Crypto-fascist anarchist.

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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 5:57:52 PM   
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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 7:34:40 PM   
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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 10:37:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I took it again, giving the other answer to questions where I didn't feel good about either option.

I'm still a libertarian.

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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 11:37:16 PM   
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Well, I took it again, on 2 consecutive times, giving the other answer to questions where I didn't feel good about either option.
I wasDISAFFECTED, and Staunch Liberal", based on my mixed feelings about certain issues. M

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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/6/2011 11:55:59 PM   
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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 12:22:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know it.... Something seems to off, about the measure regarding Libertarians. I kind of enjoyed the first, thinking more of being. a "reluctant Democrat," than anything else... Disaffected, did sound right, up until ObL was taken out. M

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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 4:12:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am mostly a libertarian , with one major issue with their definition.  I care about the environment, but i think overly complex and abundant regulation in this country does more harm then good to the environment.

Considering that companies have the option to look at the USA's environmental regulations and so "now way, let's go build a factory in a different country with little to no regulation"".

I believe a moderate amount of affordable regulation in the USA helps the environment more than an overwhelming amount of regulation that pushes companies away and sends them overseas to pretty much destroy the environment any way they wish.

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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 4:32:05 AM   
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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 5:35:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Heretic I really liked the way they broke it down in this link.  (Now if only we can implement a party structure this way lol).  I fall in between a Post Modern and a Solid Liberal.  I would have liked to say I was a solid liberal, but I do see some of the post modern traits or beliefs that I hold. 

Thanks for posting!  It was a good read.  I would really like to implement a system like this and get away from that ''us vs them'' mentality, that I believe, keeps us so divided and holds us back.


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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 5:52:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

Funny, most of the posters on this thread seem to be Libertarian when that 'type' is only supposed to be 9% of the population. 


Yes we pretty much have every Libertarian in the country here on CM,


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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 8:50:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Heretic I really liked the way they broke it down in this link.  (Now if only we can implement a party structure this way lol).  I fall in between a Post Modern and a Solid Liberal.  I would have liked to say I was a solid liberal, but I do see some of the post modern traits or beliefs that I hold. 

Thanks for posting!  It was a good read.  I would really like to implement a system like this and get away from that ''us vs them'' mentality, that I believe, keeps us so divided and holds us back.




You're very welcome, Louve. Glad you enjoyed it. If we are going to get anywhere, I think we need to start by breaking a lot of the mythologies about who votes how. There are significant numbers of NASCAR fans and religious folk voting both ways. Homophobia and anti-immigrant sentiment are not the exclusive domain of the Repub. base, and the welfare wastoids are not all Democrats.

I think we would be much better served by proportional representation in the legislative branch, than by the present institutions. The only advantage to the way we do things now is the direct connection of the community to their Congressman, and vice versa.

I live in California. 36-odd million people, maybe the most diverse group on Earth, and every seat we have in Congress is a Democrat or Republican. We are launching an experiment here, though. Except for the Presidential, primaries will now be open, and the top two go on to the general, regardless of affiliation. We might finally get to see some choice for the voters within those gerrymandered "safe" districts. Too many of these officials wind up running unopposed as it has been. I like my Congressman, but it still doesn't sit well with me when his name is the only one on the ballot.

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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 9:39:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would be interested to know the results and outcome of the elected officials of that experiment.  Never been out west but have plenty of good friends out in California and you're right, they have to try something new.  As far as liking your congressman and it not sitting well with you that his name is the only one on the ballet...I guess the only consolation is you like him.  But knowing he's doesn't have to work for it just (IMO) further forwards the dismal situation in CA, as that kind of leadership tends to lead way to laziness and slacking on ways to keep the people actually wanting him in office. 

Giving people real competition to fight for a job (in politics, the job of serving the people), only brings out the best in them and makes them think outside of the box to benefit the people they want the votes of.  That's why splitting it up into more categories that elaborate more on the wants and likes of voters, will make people actually go out an vote.  And I notice that alot of the areas (aside from the extremes) overlap, lessening the divide and the wedge that our country has splitting into it now.

I did have to snicker at the Nascar people folks though.  I know a lot of different classes and sorts of people in my life and I know people who fit into the "Bystander" category and have always lived their lives by those standards, so by and large it fits into the category.  But my husband is an avid Nascar fan and used to religiously attend the Daytona 500 and Gator-nationals.  While my husband and I don't always see it the same way, he is very pro-active and definitely not a Bystander.  And there too...maybe a system like that might help us learn not to stereotype everyone to the point of (almost) prejudice. 

Again...a very good article and I hope you'll fill us (or at least give a holler my way) to let me know how the California experiment goes!!


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RE: Fracking the Demographics - 5/7/2011 10:00:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		No worries, Louve. I'm not likely to stop talking politics.

The open primary will get a good test next year, and, combined with the effects of redrawing the districts after the census, should make for an interesting election.

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