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Fightdirecto -> Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 10:38:31 AM)

UNION FOREVER!

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Call it the Battle Hymn of the Online Petitioners.

Since President Obama’s re-election, a wave of visitors have submitted petitions to WhiteHouse.gov, calling on the president to allow states to secede from the United States, peacefully. To sign, all visitors need to do is validate their email addresses.

Petitions have now been submitted for every state except Vermont. A petition to allow Texas to secede has gained 101,328 online signatures, leading all petitions.

Visitors can submit and sign petitions at “We the People,” a crowd sourcing site run by the White House for it to solicit suggestions and questions about government policy. The White House promises to review and issue official comment on any petitions gaining more than 25,000 signatures. The White House has said it would comment on the secession petitions, but it hasn’t done so yet.

But opponents of this movement have countered with their own, sometimes tongue-in-cheek petitions against secession. While they haven’t obtained nearly as many signatures as the purported seceeders, they have matched their anti-United-States counterparts in snark.

Among the most bitter and retributive of all anti-secession petitions is one that asks Obama to strip the citizenship of everyone who’s signed a petition to secede. It’s also the most popular, having gained 10,652 signatures at the time of this posting. It reads:

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STRIP THE CITIZENSHIP FROM EVERYONE WHO SIGNED A PETITION TO SECEDE AND EXILE THEM

Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.

A petition to allow Austin, Texas, to secede from the state and annex several other cities has gained 5,348 signatures. It reads:

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PEACEFULLY GRANT THE CITY OF AUSTIN TEXAS TO WITHDRAW FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS & REMAIN PART OF THE UNITED STATES.

Austin, Texas continues to suffer difficulties stemming from the lack of civil, religious, and political freedoms imposed upon the city by less liberally minded Texans. It is entirely feasible for Austin to operate as its own state, within the United States, in the event that Texas is successful in the current bid to secede. It is important for Austin to remain in the union as to do so would protect its citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers.

We would also like to annex Dublin, Texas, Lockhart, Texas, & Shiner, Texas.


Yet another asks Obama to force any seceding states to pay back their shares of the federal debt. It has gained 3,196 signatures:

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FORCE ALL STATES TO PAY THEIR PORTION OF THE NATIONAL DEBT BEFORE THEY CAN SECEDE FROM THE UNION

Residents of all states who wish to secede from the union should be required to take their own advice about ‘personal responsibility’, and pay their share of the national debt before being released to fend for themselves.

This debt must be paid in full, or they cannot leave.

This means no federal assistance, period.

Abridged list includes no more upkeep for highways, nor for interstates or bridges, no federally funded law enforcement or fire department, no public libraries, no phone lines, no cable television, no cell phone towers, no power grids, no water lines, no mail services, no paramedics, no hospitals which accept Medicare/Medicaid funding, no ATF, FBI, DOJ, SWAT, or Department of Homeland Security, no Border Guard, National Guard, Coast Guard, Corps of Engineers, or WITSEC




Fightdirecto -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 10:44:40 AM)

And in a related news story:

States With Most Signatures to Secede Took Millions in Federal Money

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All the states petitioning to secede from the United States that obtained enough signatures to elicit a response from the White House — with the exception of Alabama — were some of the largest recipients of federal funding in 2010.

Census records show that six of the seven states that amassed more than 25,000 signatures on their petitions to form independent nations in the past week took more than $10 million in revenue from the federal government that year.

The seven states – Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina – took more than 23 percent of all federal revenue allotted to the states that year.

Missouri also received $11 million and has collected more than 29,500 signatures, but the electronic votes are divided between two identical petitions, disqualifying the state from receiving a White House response.

Petitions to secede started popping up on the White House’s We the People website three days after President Obama won re-election.

The number of states petitioning had reached the teens by Monday. By 4:30 p.m. Wednesday, every state except Vermont had a searchable secession petition on file, and each had gathered at least 600 signatures. A petition must have a minimum of 150 signatures to be found in the We the People search database.

ABC News’ reported Monday that Texas was the first state to hit 25,000 signatures, growing to more than 30,000 by the end of the day. Texas’ petition now has more than 100,000 virtual signatures...




Yachtie -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 12:54:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

The seven states – Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina – took more than 23 percent of all federal revenue allotted to the states that year.



Well shit! What ya expect? Them got's lots of liberals too.[8D]

Liberal here, Liberal there, Liberal Liberal everywhere. [:'(]




tazzygirl -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 1:14:24 PM)

Keep telling yourself that [;)]




Lucylastic -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 2:40:07 PM)

just thought I would throw this in here


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Owner59 -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 3:15:13 PM)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/strip-citizenship-everyone-who-signed-petition-secede-and-exile-them/ZbMjcwPf




Politesub53 -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 4:23:40 PM)

Building a wall around Texas would indeed create jobs, but the border in Texarkana would need to be altered so that the Texas Stake House ends up in Arkansas.

On my first visit Stateside I was enjoying a meal in said Steak house and innocently asked if we was in Texas or Arkansas...... Doh !




GotSteel -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 5:14:45 PM)

Is there a petition to tell them not to let the door hit them in the ass on the way out?




tazzygirl -> RE: Secession petitions lead to anti-secession petitions (11/15/2012 5:27:59 PM)

Oh no, I want that door to hit them so hard it slams them off the porch.




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