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Poloboi234 -> About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 6:07:03 PM)

Hey, to all.


I have been interested in the BDSM lifestyle for the last couple of years, and have done a lot of reading and research (here, books, etc...) but I am a bit strange when it comes to the dynamics of BDSM (r0les of people).

I have always been a dominate type guy, even when I was younger leader of the group etc... I had a different type of perspective as I just liked to "Dominate Males" mainly straight males, (Gay etc...) I have a different take on this as I have studied human sexuality, write and am trying to understand the psychology of it. Which I feel that many of my "subs" have liked it.

My first question of advice and just questions of the lifestyle are these. If I was to get into the S/M Lifestyle (Clubs, events, people etc...) is there a lot of camaraderie within this world? In the sense of honoring a person’s private and personal life to their role within the community? (I know it's on a case to case basis but just a generality of the people). I may be going into a very public field (entertainment) and I don't know if this life style would go well with that situation. (I'm not an actor or anything, just working in the field etc...)

My other question is the thought process and issues surrounding a straight master. I'm straight, I know this. (Have experimented and realized not gay at all, sex with a man doesn't do it for me, or anything of that nature.) But I like to dominate other men. I don't care if my slave is straight or gay, but I prefer a masculine, burly mountain man type slave. (I grew up with many people of this nature, friends, family etc..., Is this strange within the dynamics? Also is it rare to have a Male straight Dom that is into only dominating men? (It doesn't really get me to have sub females,) but I have worked with another sub female, as well as had a sub male that I was there to control.

I try my best to understand the psychology of this lifestyle reading different psychology and sexual desires, fetish and the triggers to give my slave's the exact experience they desire, as well as their fulfillments.

Another question to all the Dom's is that is it hard to have a slave obey request's from long distance, or if they have a
Vanilla lifestyle" to maintain? As this has become an issue with me with many people that request me as there master. I always felt that having the slave submit to me via "chastity" is the perfect way to start the relationship, as well as assert the start of my control and dominance.

I also can't take on any slave, I feel bad that I turn down many slaves that ask for my guidance, but I need a personal connection as well as have to like the physical attribute for me to understand what to do in terms of training the slave. I adhere more with masculine, burly, football player type "straight males" or even Masculine "gay males" (same build) as I know the world they came from, the friends, mannerism, as well as what was humiliating in the straight/jock world to use as trigger's to get them to their "sub space"... I know this was all over the place but I would love some thoughts from some Dom's and advice, as I think I would like to pursue the lifestyle more. (Even though many would never think I was in it)

I would love some advice on my method of "training". I am more a dominant master in a more... I'd say... fun and nice type of way. Let me explain. I look at the Dom/Sub situation with my slaves within the context of middle school/high school or Senior/Freshman, or like things we went through during schooling (U.S.), spanking is more within the context of "Paddling" (haze, frat, football world and role playing) and within that context. I'm not as into the whips, chains, and typical s/m looking or clothing. I more often look at it as long as I can get the same psychological triggers (humiliation, pain, love, jokes etc...) its fun for my slave, as well as reinforces the concepts or area we are going to. I know this is different, but some in S/M are taken "aback" or dare I say "frightened" by the clothing, whips, chains, and more medieval aspects of S/M.(I don't mind it, but I am mainly a Dom, to Masculine straight males). I guess do to the slaves I've had, I kind of tailored scenario’s to what they had been through, and come from. I wish there was more light hearted BDSM movies, or vids with a more "suburban, All American" type feel to it, as I find that many of my slaves want to relieve these fantasies or situations to get them "off" or they were turned on by being the kid that was "Picked on" in the past, or teased or belittled for there "weight" etc... And they missed those days, or have a sexual attraction to those situations.

I find it hard to have some "gay" Slaves. As they want me to eventually get into a sexual situation with them, or get "feelings" for me. (I don't mind the love) but my goal is more of a humiliation, or taking away "manhood" from a masculine male sub, or awakening or feminizing a masculine male. (Which many seem to love, that another man is feminizing them and proclaiming his "Alpha Male" status.) this is what I like and live for. I guess this was all over the place and I apologize if any of you could give me advice on experiences with this, or with the lifestyle, or if you are a Male Dom to a Straight sub, etc... What have you done? What works? Also are they hard to find? I mainly am able to get my straight subs, to perform acts (homo erotic etc...) with other males etc... as I have them so horny, willing to please me, or just to release from chastity that they will perform for my approval, or the ability to watch me with a woman, or to get with a woman or being allowed to mate with their GF or wife etc... I just would like to know if anyone deals with this? As I don't seem to see my scenario, style of role play, or straight male/ straight sub/gay sub etc... Thanks, and I hope all is well...




theRose4U -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 7:13:45 PM)

After angelina came out hollyweird ceased to give a crap about who is kinky. Sure the occasional pap will try to follow someone, but these are the same people followed getting coffee...GET OVER YOURSELF!!!! Not every damned person in "the business" is special enough for people to give a damn what they do in the bedroom.

As for the service top vs gay dom arguement...I would again question whether you are as special in reality as you are in your head. If you are asking questions about how to dom from a distance & how to deal with "those that want you" I'm questioning your real experience with this.
Try a who, what, how for us to give real "I would have done x" advice. Frankly I'm smelling yet another writer wanting help with scenarios...or wank fodder




LadyPact -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 7:16:49 PM)

Christ, Dude! Just a word of advice. When you create topics, don't write novel length posts with four to five completely different questions contained within. I say this because a number of people aren't going to read through the whole thing. An additional amount aren't going to answer because in doing so, it will involve a lot of typing for themselves.

Real quick. I don't think I've seen anybody talk about men so much, right down to the type of physique the other male should have, and at the same time go through so many mentions about how straight they are.

Moving on......

I have always been a dominate type guy,

The word is "Dominant" rather than dominate if you are referring to a person. You've got a number of other terms up there that probably aren't what you think you mean. Just about any non-fiction book on BDSM has a glossary in the back.

If I was to get into the S/M Lifestyle (Clubs, events, people etc...) is there a lot of camaraderie within this world?
I'm a leather person, (which is different than BDSM or even M/s) so I would have to say yes. It's something like a second family for Me. A part of the leather lifestyle is very much linked to community ties, which probably supports that.

It's also still like everywhere else. If you're a dick and nobody likes you in the vanilla world, kinky people aren't likely to enjoy your company either.

But I like to dominate other men. I don't care if my slave is straight or gay, but I prefer a masculine, burly mountain man type slave. (I grew up with many people of this nature, friends, family etc..., Is this strange within the dynamics?
From the majority of your post, it sounds like you are more interested in topping (for play) men rather than have a D/s relationship. Your entire post is pretty much all about scenes and what types of play you want to engage in. Very, very little about emotional connection.


Another question to all the Dom's is that is it hard to have a slave obey request's from long distance, or if they have a
Vanilla lifestyle" to maintain?

If you are sincerely the person in control and authority, distance shouldn't matter. Obedience should be the same whether a person is across the room or across the globe.

My boy and I have had all kinds of living situations over these past five years. Live together, live apart, multiple moves, and his deployment to the desert. Yes, a dynamic can be maintained long distance, but it is work.

I feel bad that I turn down many slaves that ask for my guidance, but I need a personal connection as well as have to like the physical attribute for me to understand what to do in terms of training the slave.

Don't feel bad. Anybody approaching you is probably as clueless as you are. Think about it rationally. Would you turn your life over to some complete stranger without knowing how competent they were to handle the task?


I guess this was all over the place and I apologize if any of you could give me advice on experiences with this, or with the lifestyle, or if you are a Male Dom to a Straight sub, etc... What have you done? What works? Also are they hard to find?

I'm a straight female Dominant and I often top (non-sexually) females for S/m. I don't have problems finding people, but I'm a pretty decent top. (This is also a chance to reiterate how funny I find it that Mr Straight, Straight, Straight Dom wants to engage in getting other men sexually excited and get them off.) I engage only in topping/bottoming for casual BDSM. I couldn't possibly sit here and tell you everything that I have done.

I don't know what research you've done up to this point, but it would do you a world of good to read some non-fiction BDSM books and attend some lifestyle events in your area. You would benefit a great deal from some education from folks who are living their lives with kink involved or in an authority transfer dynamic. This (CM) can be a good place to learn, too, but folks can't really give you the Reader's Digest Condensed version of kink, play, D/s, and everything else this lifestyle involves.






theRose4U -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 7:40:38 PM)

LP forgot to have you send clip the kiss from me on vets day...post reminded me he was deployed when I took last break

You left out HE has started a thread on how to Domme!!




Poloboi234 -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 8:06:47 PM)

quote:

After angelina came out hollyweird ceased to give a crap about who is kinky. Sure the occasional pap will try to follow someone, but these are the same people followed getting coffee...GET OVER YOURSELF!!!! Not every damned person in "the business" is special enough for people to give a damn what they do in the bedroom.

As for the service top vs gay dom arguement...I would again question whether you are as special in reality as you are in your head. If you are asking questions about how to dom from a distance & how to deal with "those that want you" I'm questioning your real experience with this.
Try a who, what, how for us to give real "I would have done x" advice. Frankly I'm smelling yet another writer wanting help with scenarios...or wank fodder

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haha, I apologize if I came across arrogant or something of that nature. When I said in entertainment (more business side/finance). This isn't some writing scenario (I don't think people would watch a movie on this type of thing, not yet anyway)

This is real and is true. I do have slaves, (only 5 so far, at different times) and this is something that I have dealt with. All the questions I said are true. A lot of subs want an alpha male/Black master and usually a lot of them are "out". I guess I'm different as I like to deal with masculine, burly men, and usually help with humiliation, as well as I'm trying to give them the best experience as possible, but still get across the ethics, and style of BDSM. With my dominance I don't know anyone that is a Straight male that takes on "straight subs/gay subs" and it isn't a sexual relationship. I more or less arrange the sexual encounters my slave will have with a "male" (if gay) or when they will be with a woman. But sex is not in the equation.

I think that was my point, being a master for the stimulus of the act of bringing the sub pleasure or helping them get there limits without the "sexual connection" (having sex with the person) and the issues with that. Sorry, if I didn't clarify...




theRose4U -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 8:24:42 PM)

-you're a finance guy that doesn't think kink will sell!!! OMFG have you bothered to check stats for magic mike this week? They only hinted at swapping (ok & had channing take his clothes off) but check the numbers it would TOTALLY fly

-giving gay guys what they want isn't dominance...its a service top at best, fiction at worst

The problem is this isn't dominance. Maybe sebastian or lance will be along & give the gay Dom label for it...but it's not dominant. Maybe kink fairy??




Baroana -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 8:29:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

-you're a finance guy that doesn't think kink will sell!!! OMFG have you bothered to check stats for magic mike this week?




Three words: fifty fucking shades.




theRose4U -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 8:42:23 PM)

Or girl with the dragon tattoo, 9 1/2 weeks, any of the HBO or skinimax after hours.




Baroana -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 8:43:00 PM)

I haven't seen those.




Poloboi234 -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 8:50:50 PM)

that's nice. I guess you're all right about the finance aspects. But I would like people to give me reply's on the topic at hand... but it's alright.




theRose4U -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 9:01:00 PM)

Kind of waiting for the major gay doms to roll by...sometime...maybe




poise -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 9:31:14 PM)

I'll admit, I didn't sift through your whole post, because all I kept seeing was
I'm A Straight Male Dom in neon flashing lights, and it started to affect my vision.

I do have a question though, if you'll pardon my ignorance.
What is the difference between a straight Dom and a bisexual one?
If you are so anti-sex with the masculine, burly men you interact with,
aren't you being a little deceptive in luring them in by listing yourself as Bisexual Male Dom? [:-]




seekingreality -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 10:06:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Poloboi234

My first question of advice and just questions of the lifestyle are these. If I was to get into the S/M Lifestyle (Clubs, events, people etc...) is there a lot of camaraderie within this world? In the sense of honoring a person’s private and personal life to their role within the community? (I know it's on a case to case basis but just a generality of the people). I may be going into a very public field (entertainment) and I don't know if this life style would go well with that situation. (I'm not an actor or anything, just working in the field etc...)


Generally, yes. But in this day and age anything can become public.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Poloboi234My other question is the thought process and issues surrounding a straight master. I'm straight, I know this. (Have experimented and realized not gay at all, sex with a man doesn't do it for me, or anything of that nature.) But I like to dominate other men. I don't care if my slave is straight or gay, but I prefer a masculine, burly mountain man type slave.



Hey, if you want to tell yourself you're straight, that's your business. Personally, you come up off as pretty flaming to me.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Poloboi234Another question to all the Dom's is that is it hard to have a slave obey request's from long distance, or if they have a
Vanilla lifestyle" to maintain?


Most people don't take the long-distance thing seriously.






AthenaSurrenders -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 10:50:17 PM)

First off usually 'domme' is the used as the feminine version of 'dom'. Not that it matters but I assumed you were female when I opened your post.

Some people have Master/slave relationships without any sex or even sexual attraction. It's not the most common way of doing it because most who do SM or humiliation/feminization play do it because it gets them off, and most looking for involved Master/slave relationships want it to be a relationship in the intimate sense. It's not unheard of. You do sound somewhat insecure about your own sexuality though.

Distance can make relationships more work but shouldn't prevent you being in charge if the relationship is solid. How do you get them to obey long distance? By being worthy of obedience. Consistency, integrity, reasonable behaviour and being reliable are a good staring point. And for the record we ALL have 'vanilla lives'. Every single one of us has to buy food, go to the doctor, call on an elderly relative, go to a parent-teacher meeting, mow the lawn, attend a wedding etc etc. It shouldn't affect you being in charge unless you are forgetting about these things. If your idea of being a Master means a dude always wearing fetish gear around town, then yes, that will conflict with real life and make it hard to keep mastering them.

Some people are into forced bi, performing for you, watching you have sex etc. They all sound like sexual acts me though, for someone who so strongly denies any sexual interest in men. Good luck on being allowed to have sex with the other guy's wife though - that involved getting both parts of a couple on board and into you.




Poloboi234 -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/29/2012 11:37:44 PM)

I guess this came out wrong, but then again it is what it is. I like the control, and watching someones sexuality be changed, or altered peaks my interest (studied Biology, Human sexuality in college/was pre med) I guess that's my thought process with it. I'm more about the control and dominance. Without it I can't even jack or whatever, also a female has to be present. I guess I'm just weird, But I try to be a good master to all my subs when I can. I also do it for their "benefit" not mine. I guess that's strange, but I have never seen sexuality as exclusive, it's just what do you like? basically. Some people like food fetish, some like tied up, I like the power and control of being a master or a slave, that's it. But I think you're theories were good though, and thanks for those who actually responded. I guess I'm just one of the weirdo's. Thanks all.




hardsubmissive26 -> RE: About being a Straight Domme/public private life (11/30/2012 4:53:51 AM)

Way to much thinking, people here have a lot of time on their hands instead of a whip in it. 3 simple facts they will not teach you in the REAL LIFE DOM SCHOOL:

1) Be who you are: If your a Dom then be a Dom at work, in the Taxi, at a restaurant, etc and stop trying to fit into a world that more and more needs you and hates you.

2) They will either obey or not. If they don't then "F" them.

3) Ideal minds is the Devils workshop: Go get a sub/slave and abuse them and you will quit asking and posting stupid things on a website. (This is the first time I have ever posted here and the last).







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