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MasterRobert007 -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:33:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

As sad as it would be, the perfect ending to this story would be the dude you had fuck your so-called sub without a condom against her wishes calling to say he also forgot to mention he is hiv positive and has herpes.

Someone who would have someone else fuck their sub without protection, in my world, is a douchebag extraordinaire.


I can't understand why no one can see my point of view The male submissive lied, lied and lied. None of this would have happened if he told the truth. Now I'm scared because of the law suit she is threatening against me. How come he gets to do all this lying and get away with everything?




searching4mysir -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:34:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

As sad as it would be, the perfect ending to this story would be the dude you had fuck your so-called sub without a condom against her wishes calling to say he also forgot to mention he is hiv positive and has herpes.

Someone who would have someone else fuck their sub without protection, in my world, is a douchebag extraordinaire.


I can't understand why no one can see my point of view The male submissive lied, lied and lied. None of this would have happened if he told the truth. Now I'm scared because of the law suit she is threatening against me. How come he gets to do all this lying and get away with everything?



It doesn't matter if he lied. YOU were supposed to be the "master" and the one in charge here. The responsibility is YOURS. It comes with the fucking title.


Also, a vasectomy doesn't protect against STDs, and if you hadn't been rubbing one off in the little boy's room during health class, you would know that.




siouxsiecat -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:34:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007

Why is everyone talking about sexual assault? Everything was consensual between adults.



You can't be that stupid…can you? Everything was NOT consensual. She said use a condom, you violated her wish when she wasn't in a position to do anything about it or even know what was happening. You contributed to a sexual assault. She had specific guidelines that you willfully went against.

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She applied for Welfare and they did whatever they did to determine the male submissive was the father of the child. It is not my child. What do you mean, "get lucky with this woman?"


How did she have his information if this was a casual situation? How did they get in touch with him to get a DNA sample? If the two of you had any identifying information about him beforehand, why did you never do any simple checking up to see if he was being truthful seeing as how you were letting him be intimate with someone who trusted you?

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She is a good submissive and does what she is told to do.



Evidently her doing what she is told to do put her in real danger when she decided to trust an idiot (you), with being in charge and knowing enough to respect her wishes on something as important as condom wearing.




LeatherBentOne51 -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:35:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: siouxsiecat


This is your version of being "mature"? Walking away from a problem that you caused?

Wow.



THIS ISN'T MY FAULT!! THE MALE SUBMISSIVE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!! He told me he has a vasectomy when he hadn't. This is all his fault. I realize this now.

I want to thank the community for their feedback and I'm happy I posted this because I learned a lot.




Son, you haven't learned a damn thing as far as I can tell. You continue to blame the male sub that lied to you and now you think you can just walk away, taking NO responsibility for your actions or inactions. Don't make me laugh. This is too sad. You need to shove your own dick up your own butt, instead of leaving her to her own devices. You are totally despicable.

You have ruined 4 lives: the baby, the male sub attorney, the pregnant sub and your own; yours of which I care least about. You are not a man, a Dominant, or a Master in my eyes and I don't think you ever will be.

YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.





Rawni -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:35:34 PM)

OP... he lied and so have you most likely, but if this is true... you both are in trouble.




SeekingTrinity -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:37:21 PM)

~FRing it~

OP, for your own sake and the sake of humanity in general...

Don't use your or anyone else's penis for at least the next 20 years. You clearly have no idea what the fucking hell to do with one and a weapon of that caliber in the hands of the terminally clueless is just a bad idea all the way around.

You should also forget about this master business until you develop at least one other neuron so the one you do have doesn't get lonely...if this story is in fact true and not just a really piss poor attempt at trolling




LadyConstanze -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:41:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Athena... He said in his opening post -
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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
Long story short. She got pregnant. She had to go on welfare and they tracked him down and he is the father.

So one has to assume he isn't the father.




Take a look at his profile, he joined 2 days ago, is 18, went to local munches, met her there (always happens really quick for 18 year old boys to meet girls of the same age who become submissives at local munches) and 2 days ago they will still exploring together and she wasn't freaking out. Pregnancies seem to happen damned fast in his area...


Apparently the welfare system works remarkably quickly in his area too, since they've established paternity.



There might be another world out there? Are we getting invaded by Gor?




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:44:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
I can't understand why no one can see my point of view

Now let me see.....

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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
The male submissive lied, lied and lied.

And you weren't mature enough to realize that people lie just to get their rocks off??

Very naive.

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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
None of this would have happened if he told the truth.

And none of this would have happened if you had -
A) Taken the proper precautions;
B) Taken the appropriate responsibility;
C) Had not gone against your sub's consent and had her fucked without a condom;
D) Did not check that the male sub was telling the truth before letting him loose on her;
E) Did not know your female sub had no precautions of her own;
F) Was stupid enough to make such an idiotic request of your sub.

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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
Now I'm scared because of the law suit she is threatening against me. How come he gets to do all this lying and get away with everything?

Because you were being a dick-controlled irresponsible asshat. [:D]


Next??




Rawni -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:47:43 PM)

A MASTER... takes responsibility for his/her actions whether there are legal grounds or not.

In my opinion of course. [:D]




MasterRobert007 -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:48:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


If she only agreed to sex WITH a condom, then consent is removed if there was no condom, thus it becomes sexual assault.



I don't believe this. I hear so many stories where a boyfriend and girlfriend have sex and the woman tells him she is on birth control. She wants to get married and have a child so she doesn't take her protection and she gets pregnant. If what you are saying is true, then there are a lot of women who commit sexual assault. Because she says she is protected when she knows she isn't.




pg4g -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:49:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007

I can't understand why no one can see my point of view The male submissive lied, lied and lied. None of this would have happened if he told the truth. Now I'm scared because of the law suit she is threatening against me. How come he gets to do all this lying and get away with everything?


Vasctomies do not stop everything. Indeed, for 6 weeks after, even after constant masturbation, the lines aren't always clean. So it isn't perfect.

I doubt this was the case - he probably did lie. But it's irrelevant. In this case, you should have known that you are responsible as the one in control, and you could cause a kid if you tell him to do it bareback and he'd lied. So what? It's a fantasy of yours: Great. You stepped over the line of risk to fulfil your fantasy or desire.

Are you legally responsible? No.
Are you morally responsible? Absolutely.

Being in control gives you power, yes. But it also gives you responsibility. And you used the power, with the risks it contained, and it HEAVILY backfired. Now you need to face the moral implication that you are responsible for this child, whether you like it or not.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:51:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


If she only agreed to sex WITH a condom, then consent is removed if there was no condom, thus it becomes sexual assault.



I don't believe this. I hear so many stories where a boyfriend and girlfriend have sex and the woman tells him she is on birth control. She wants to get married and have a child so she doesn't take her protection and she gets pregnant. If what you are saying is true, then there are a lot of women who commit sexual assault. Because she says she is protected when she knows she isn't.


I guess you heard many stories about sex and BDSM, now once you have sex, and maybe (a long long time away from now) you might experience BDSM, you will find it vastly different from everything you have heard and masturbated to. In the meantime, don't go blind...




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:53:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


If she only agreed to sex WITH a condom, then consent is removed if there was no condom, thus it becomes sexual assault.



I don't believe this. I hear so many stories where a boyfriend and girlfriend have sex and the woman tells him she is on birth control. She wants to get married and have a child so she doesn't take her protection and she gets pregnant. If what you are saying is true, then there are a lot of women who commit sexual assault. Because she says she is protected when she knows she isn't.


Yes, in my opinion, those women are also committing sexual assault because they are lying about the circumstances to get the man to consent, in the knowledge that he would not consent if he knew the truth.
They are committing sexual assault, you committed sexual assault. The male submissive, assuming he knew she was only consenting to sex with a condom, also committed sexual assault.

The fact that other people do scummy things doesn't mean what you did was any less scummy.

That's like saying 'well sure I murdered a few people, but hey, other people have murdered folks too! What's the big deal?'




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:53:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


If she only agreed to sex WITH a condom, then consent is removed if there was no condom, thus it becomes sexual assault.



I don't believe this. I hear so many stories where a boyfriend and girlfriend have sex and the woman tells him she is on birth control. She wants to get married and have a child so she doesn't take her protection and she gets pregnant. If what you are saying is true, then there are a lot of women who commit sexual assault. Because she says she is protected when she knows she isn't.

In your scenario, you aren't the one being abused.
And why would you take her word for it??

You really are being extremely naive.
Total incompetence.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:57:20 PM)

Please tell me, is anybody taking this extremely frothy (as in really frothing over) ferret seriously? Or should we deliver a few planks so he can actually start building a tree house (of which he seems to be all planks short of) so wank bunny has a hiding place? Bless his heart and his cotton soxs

How was that for staying within TOS? Gold star? Pretty please?




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:58:39 PM)

No, but it's so damn hard to resist....

besides, I always think a few serious replies might be helpful in case someone stumbles across one of these threads in the future, when they are actually considering doing something stupid like the thing described in the OP.




MasterRobert007 -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:58:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

In your scenario, you aren't the one being abused.
And why would you take her word for it??

You really are being extremely naive.
Total incompetence.



Just because I believe what people tell me I'm considered incompetent? Okay, I see my error. I'll apologize to her.




pg4g -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 2:59:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
Yes, in my opinion, those women are also committing sexual assault because they are lying about the circumstances to get the man to consent, in the knowledge that he would not consent if he knew the truth.
They are committing sexual assault, you committed sexual assault. The male submissive, assuming he knew she was only consenting to sex with a condom, also committed sexual assault.

The fact that other people do scummy things doesn't mean what you did was any less scummy.

That's like saying 'well sure I murdered a few people, but hey, other people have murdered folks too! What's the big deal?'


[sm=agree.gif]




searching4mysir -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 3:02:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


If she only agreed to sex WITH a condom, then consent is removed if there was no condom, thus it becomes sexual assault.



I don't believe this. I hear so many stories where a boyfriend and girlfriend have sex and the woman tells him she is on birth control. She wants to get married and have a child so she doesn't take her protection and she gets pregnant. If what you are saying is true, then there are a lot of women who commit sexual assault. Because she says she is protected when she knows she isn't.



Yes, they, too, are committing sexual assault. But the fact remains that if YOU don't want a child, then you need to keep your willie wrapped up, regardless of what kind of birth control she claims to be on.

In THIS case, she gave consent to a condom. YOU made the crackerjack decision that your own dick hardening was more important than her safety or her consent. For a man who wants to claim the title of "Master" you seem hellbent on shirking any responsibility that comes with that title.

Better close out the site and delete your cookies, cache and history before you head out of the basement up to mommy's dinner table. If she finds out what you've been up to, you'll be the one who gets spanked (and maybe grounded).




searching4mysir -> RE: Need Guidance (3/8/2014 3:03:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

In your scenario, you aren't the one being abused.
And why would you take her word for it??

You really are being extremely naive.
Total incompetence.



Just because I believe what people tell me I'm considered incompetent? Okay, I see my error. I'll apologize to her.





IF this is true, she deserves more than apology.




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