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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/2/2016 1:49:02 PM   
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What I said is what I said. It does not contradict the eo. Now if that is too complicated for you go ask an adult to read it to you.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/2/2016 6:33:37 PM   
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What I said is what I said. It does not contradict the eo. Now if that is too complicated for you go ask an adult to read it to you.

Just to humor you, i had an FBI agent, a Hilary supporter, and a person who is blue collar (with a PHD) read it. They agreed with me. So maybe you can explain how see Part 1, Section 1.1d The unauthorized disclosure of foreign government information is presumed to cause damage to the national security. of EO 13529 is intrepretied by you.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/2/2016 7:20:23 PM   
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there is no point in discussing matters with thompsonx. Black is white. He knows better. Ignore the evidence before your eyes.

The Internet troll has spoken..

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/3/2016 1:48:21 AM   
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quote:

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there is no point in discussing matters with thompsonx. Black is white. He knows better. Ignore the evidence before your eyes.

The Internet troll has spoken..

ROFLACGU

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/6/2016 6:49:06 AM   
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not quite in keeping with the intent of the OP, but maybe this can become a clearing house for all things Hillary:

"Cinton can't explain the difference between Democrats, socialists"

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Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night was unable to explain the difference between Democrats and socialists.

"Uh, you'd have to ask… I am not one," Clinton said after MSNBC's Chris Matthews asked her whether or not she identified as a socialist during an interview on Hardball.

As Clinton fumbled question, Matthews even gave the candidate an out by saying, "I'd say you're a pretty typical Democrat…but is that a question you want to answer or would you rather not?"

"I can tell you what I am," Clinton said. "I'm a progressive Democrat who likes to get things done, and who believes that we are better off in this country when we're trying to solve problems together, getting people to work together. There will always be strong feelings and I respect that, from the far right, the far left, the libertarians, whoever they might be. We've got to get people working together, we've got to get the economy fixed, we've got to get all our problems really tackled." [my goodness could you be any more inane?]

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/9/2016 5:58:26 PM   
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skeptical anything indeed will happen, but its one more step in the story:

"Former Federal Prosecutor Predicts Hillary Clinton May Be Indicted in Next 60 Days — Here’s Why"

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Former U.S. Attorney Joe DiGenova predicted on Tuesday that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton may be slapped with an indictment over her private email scandal in the next 60 days.

DiGenova...told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham that the FBI’s investigation has reached a “critical mass” and the evidence against the former secretary of state is damning.

“It’s going to come to a head, I would suggest, in the next 60 days,” he said.

DiGenova, a longtime critic of Clinton, argued the Department of Justice is “not going to be able to walk away” from the scandal, putting the Obama administration in a tough position as Clinton is considered to be the Democratic frontrunner.

“They are now at over 1,200 classified emails. And, that’s just for the ones we know about from the State Department. That does not include the ones that the FBI is, in fact, recovering from her hard drives,” DiGenova added....

DiGenova added, “I believe that the evidence that the FBI is compiling will be so compelling that, unless [Attorney General Loretta Lynch] agrees to the charges, there will be a massive revolt inside the FBI, which she will not be able to survive as an attorney general. It will be like Watergate. It will be unbelievable.”


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/07/former-federal-prosecutor-predicts-hillary-clinton-may-be-indicted-in-next-60-days-heres-why/

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/9/2016 6:00:42 PM   
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I have a friend in the AG office that says the same thing. That the decision to indict as of now is a go. He said the number of FBI people threatening to resign was... astounding.

Frankly it seems like a Christmas present, as yet I don't believe it. But the friend has yet to be wrong.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/9/2016 6:10:06 PM   
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in keeping with what you just said phydeaux---a little more to add:

"Hillary Email Scandal: Can Clinton Run The Gov't From A Prison Cell?"

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Former federal prosecutor Joseph DiGenova stirred the Hillary Clinton hornets' nest Tuesday when he said on talk radio that he is convinced "she's not going to be able to complete her campaign" because "she's going to have to be charged with a crime."...

The evidence that the FBI is finding against her is so compelling that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will have no choice but to charge Clinton, he believes. If Lynch resists, "there will be a massive revolt inside the FBI, which she will not be able to survive as an attorney general. It will be like Watergate."

So overwhelming is the evidence, explains DiGenova, that if there's no indictment, the FBI "will never be able to charge another federal employee with the negligent handling of classified information. The intelligence community will not stand for that. They will fight for indictment."...

The possibility that Clinton is nominated by the Democrats and then elected by the voters in November, all the while awaiting a court date, is troubling. Would her party still nominate her, and would a simple majority of voters pull the lever for her, after she had been charged? It's frightening to know that in today's America we cannot categorically rule out these scenarios. The electorate, as the past two presidential elections and the rabid support for Donald Trump have shown, has lost its mind...

For his part, DiGenova believes that Clinton is "not going to be able to complete her campaign." If she's charged, dropping out is the most agreeable outcome. There are a lot of us who don't want to see the White House operating out of the female federal corrections institution in Dublin, Ca., for eight years.


http://news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/010616-788442-hillary-email-scandal-can-clinton-run-government-from-prison-cell.htm#ixzz3wnr3c4Df

but the good news for the comrades is: this is coming from a blog, so gee maybe none of its true??

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/9/2016 8:05:07 PM   
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Hillary clinton, expressing surprise that a state dept. Employee could be conducting business on private email. Rich.
..... latest email dump.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/10/2016 4:55:27 AM   
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At this point, I believe that Bernie Sanders is the Democratic shoe-in I half expect Obama to Pardon her as well in the near future. I also believe that IF he does, it will be the undoing of anything else he may have accomplished.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/10/2016 8:51:23 AM   
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Monsanto never got her condemned, the emails might, though the leak of information from the DNC to Bernie's campaign seems like the kind of intentional political move Hillary would encourage if not instigate for gain in the primaries. Both Clinton's are crooks almost on par with Cheney and the Bush family, though the latter camp did way more long term damage to the US and world at large (assuming Hillary does not gain office). Guess who predicted the largest problems of our era? Bernie Sanders

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/10/2016 11:55:59 PM   
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Quoted from the Observer, in toto.

It seems that Sid Blumenthal got Top Secret Info (How exactly) and sent to Clinton on unsecure email server.

It is 90% likely that this information is SigInt........

Hillary’s EmailGate Goes Nuclear
Does the latest release of Hillary’s State Department emails include highly classified U.S. intelligence?
By John R. Schindler • 01/09/16 5:49pm

Democratic Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton gestures while speaking with her supporters and Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) elected officials on January 7, 2016 in San Gabriel, California. (Photo: FREDERIC J. BROWN/AFP/Getty Images)

Back in October I told you that Hillary Clinton’s email troubles were anything but over, and that the scandal over her misuse of communications while she was Secretary of State was sure to get worse. Sure enough, EmailGate continues to be a thorn in the side of Hillary’s presidential campaign and may have just entered a new, potentially explosive phase with grave ramifications, both political and legal.

The latest court-ordered dump of her email, just placed online by the State Department, brings more troubles for Team Hillary. This release of over 3,000 pages includes 66 “Unclassified” messages that the State Department subsequently determined actually were classified; however, all but one of those 66 were deemed Confidential, the lowest classification level, while one was found to be Secret, bringing the total of Secret messages discovered so far to seven. In all, 1,340 Hillary emails at State have been reassessed as classified.

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There are gems here. It’s hard to miss the irony of Hillary expressing surprise about a State Department staffer using personal email for work, which the Secretary of State noted in her own personal email. More consequential was Hillary’s ordering a staffer to send classified talking points for a coming meeting via a non-secure fax machine, stripped of their classification markings. This appears to be a clear violation of Federal law and the sort of thing that is a career-ender, or worse, for normals. The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee termed that July 2011 incident “disturbing,” and so it is to anyone acquainted with U.S. Government laws and regulations regarding the handling of classified material.

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Part 1

But the biggest problem may be in a just-released email that has gotten little attention here, but plenty on the other side of the world. An email to Hillary from a close Clinton confidant late on June 8, 2011 about Sudan turns out to have explosive material in it. This message includes a detailed intelligence report from Sid Blumenthal, Hillary’s close friend, confidant, and factotum, who regularly supplied her with information from his private intelligence service. His usual source was Tyler Drumheller, a former CIA senior official and veteran spy-gadfly, who conveniently died just before EmailGate became a serious problem for Hillary’s campaign.

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Part 2

However, the uncredited June 8 memo, which Mr. Blumenthal labeled as “Confidential” – his personal classification system, apparently – but which the State Department has labeled Unclassified, doesn’t appear to be from Drumheller, whose assessments were written just like CIA intelligence reports. This is not.

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Part 3

Remarkably, the report emailed to Hillary by “sbwhoeop,” which was Mr. Blumenthal’s email handle, explains how Sudan’s government devised a clandestine plan, in coordination with two rebel generals, to secure control of oil reserves in the disputed region of Abyei. This is juicy, front-page stuff, straight out of an action movie, about a region of Africa that’s of high interest to the American and many other governments, and the report is astonishingly detailed.

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Part 4

Its information comes from a high-ranking source with direct access to Sudan’s top military and intelligence officials, and Mr. Blumenthal’s write-up repeatedly states the sources – there turn out to be more than one – are well-placed and credible, with excellent access. It’s the usual spytalk boilerplate when you want the reader to understand this is golden information, not just gossip or rumors circulating on the street, what professionals dismiss as “RUMINT.” Needless to add, this is generating a lot of talk in Sudan, where the media is asking about this shady affair – and how Sid Blumenthal, who’s not exactly an old Africa hand, knew all about it.

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But the most interesting part is that the report describes a conversation “in confidence” that happened on the evening of June 7, just one day before Mr. Blumenthal sent the report to Secretary Clinton. It beggars the imagination to think that Sid’s private intelligence operation, which was just a handful of people, had operators who were well placed in Sudan, with top-level spy access, able to get this secret information, place it in a decently written assessment with proper espionage verbiage, and pass it all back to Washington, DC, inside 24 hours. That would be a feat even for the CIA, which has stations and officers all over Africa.

In fact, the June 8, 2011 Blumenthal report doesn’t read like CIA material at all, in other words human intelligence or HUMINT, but very much like signals intelligence or SIGINT. (For the differences see here). I know what SIGINT reports look like, because I used to write them for the National Security Agency, America’s biggest source of intelligence. SIGINT reports, which I’ve read thousands of, have a very distinct style and flavor to them and Blumenthal’s write-up matches it, right down to the “Source Comments,” which smack very much of NSA reporting and its “house rules.”

But is this an NSA assessment? If so, it would have to be classified at least Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information, a handling caveat that applies to most SIGINT, and quite possibly Top Secret/SCI, the highest normal classification we have. In that case, it was about as far from Unclassified as it’s possible for an email to be.

No surprise, NSA is aflutter this weekend over this strange matter. One Agency official expressed to me “at least 90 percent confidence” that Mr. Blumenthal’s June 8 report was derived from NSA reports, and the Agency ought to be investigating the matter right now.

There are many questions here. How did Sid Blumenthal, who had no position in the U.S. Government in 2011, and hasn’t since Bill Clinton left the White House fifteen years ago, possibly get his hands on such highly classified NSA reporting? Why did he place it an open, non-secure email to Hillary, who after all had plenty of legitimate access, as Secretary of State, to intelligence assessments from all our spy agencies? Moreover, how did the State Department think this was Unclassified and why did it release it to the public?

It’s possible this Blumenthal report did not come from NSA, but perhaps from another, non-American intelligence agency – but whose? If Sid was really able to get top-level intelligence like this for Hillary, using just his shoestring operation, and get it into her hands a day later, with precise information about the high-level conspiracy that was just discussed over in Sudan, the Intelligence Community needs to get him on our payroll stat. He’s a pro at the spy business.

go here to see the released data...http://observer.com/2016/01/hillarys-emailgate-goes-nuclear/

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/11/2016 12:07:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KenDckey

At this point, I believe that Bernie Sanders is the Democratic shoe-in I half expect Obama to Pardon her as well in the near future. I also believe that IF he does, it will be the undoing of anything else he may have accomplished.



Not going to happen.

What most people see is that there is a fight going on for the soul (and finances) of the DNC. Pieces in play now are controlled by the Clintons - whether its Bagman macauliffe in Virginia, Sgt. I know Nuuuuthing wasserman shultz, or media connections like stephanopolis, etc.

Obama / Jaret want to control some of assets - as is usualas the outgoing president. But that won't happened with bill in play.

Mutliple sources are that clinton had a meeting with obama two months ago telling him to call off his fucking dogs. Obama said he couldn't do that.


If Obama didn't want to take down the clintons - he would have called off the feds.


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In other news - sanders is surging in Iowa....

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/11/2016 8:26:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I have a friend in the AG office that says the same thing.

So you really are in the know???

That the decision to indict as of now is a go. He said the number of FBI people threatening to resign was... astounding.

Would it not be kewel if they all resigned...that many less assholes eating at the public trough.

Frankly it seems like a Christmas present, as yet I don't believe it. But the friend has yet to be wrong.


And you have yet to be right?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/11/2016 9:35:59 AM   
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i don't know if you are just back from a small self imposed exile, or if you had a short ban, but I do know that I come to the forums to read the exchange of information and thoughts, not infantile posturing and needling and so your return, in so much as your posts are overwhelmingly of the latter nature, isnt a welcome sight.

can you actually contribute to conversation as opposed to being a thorn in most everyone's side? or put another more brutal way, get a life?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/11/2016 9:58:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I have a friend in the AG office that says the same thing. That the decision to indict as of now is a go. He said the number of FBI people threatening to resign was... astounding.

Frankly it seems like a Christmas present, as yet I don't believe it. But the friend has yet to be wrong.

Were they threatening to resign if she was indicted or if she wasn't?


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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/11/2016 10:46:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I have a friend in the AG office that says the same thing. That the decision to indict as of now is a go. He said the number of FBI people threatening to resign was... astounding.

Frankly it seems like a Christmas present, as yet I don't believe it. But the friend has yet to be wrong.

Were they threatening to resign if she was indicted or if she wasn't?


If she wasn't.

three section chiefs and a hundred agents... Pretty much open rebellion. Regardless of outcome, I expect some heads will roll, quietly and discreetly over the next several months.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/12/2016 2:42:30 AM   
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Bob Woodward from Watergate about Hillary

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429558/bob-woodward-hillary-clinton-she-kind-feels-immune-she-lives-bubble

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Here is Hillary Clinton, somebody who worked on the staff of the Nixon impeachment committee, and what was lesson one of the lessons from that? Never write anything down! She did years of Whitewater investigations, where she was the target and here, many years later, she’s saying, “Oh, let’s subvert the rules” and writing it out herself! Whether that’s some sort of crime, I think is not the issue. The issue is it shows she kind of feels immune, that she lives in a bubble and no one’s going to ever find this out. Well, now we have.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429558/bob-woodward-hillary-clinton-she-kind-feels-immune-she-lives-bubble

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/12/2016 5:11:04 AM   
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ken, hotair is linking the bob woodward comments together with Hillary's instructing someone to remove classified headings from a document.

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That e-mail specifically instructed Sullivan to convert the data into an informal document or electronic transmission with “no identifying heading” in order to transmit it “nonsecure.”


apparently she instructed him to do that because there was so problems with the secure fax process.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/11/hillary-by-ordering-identifying-heading-i-meant-dont-transmit-classified-info-or-something/

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In other words, it’s a deception all the way down. Is it a crime? If Sullivan balked at doing this, then not in and of itself, but we don’t know whether he did or not — and neither does State. But it demonstrates that Hillary was well aware of the import of classified markings and had ordered her aides to defeat that system. That makes her “none of it was marked classified” excuse moot, and gives any prosecutor within six weeks of passing a bar exam plenty of evidence to pursue a case in federal court — especially when more than 1300 other examples of classified transmission and storage through unsecured means exist in the system Hillary forced everyone else to use.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 1/12/2016 6:30:28 AM   
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I have heard many tall tales about this woman. I believe few if any of them are true.

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