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LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 1:53:45 PM   
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If you had a loved one suffering from anorexia would you help them to see themselves as fat and encourage them to get lyposuction?

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/clarion-call/59565-the-entire-lgbt-narrative-just-crumbled
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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 1:57:55 PM   
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Didn't read that, because it produced a pop-up suggesting I subscribe to a Godbothery blog as soon as I clicked on the link.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 2:16:06 PM   
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The Entire 'LGBT' Narrative Just Crumbled
6:00AM EDT 8/30/2016
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If your daughter, sister, mother or friend "identified" as a fat person trapped in a perilously emaciated body—if she truly believed she was obese, but, in reality, suffered from anorexia—would you affirm her "fatness" and get her liposuction, or would you go to the ends of the Earth to help her bring her subjective (and mistaken) identity into alignment with objective reality? When someone is engaged in demonstrably self-destructive behavior, it is not loving, but hateful, to encourage persistence.

It was, ironically, lesbian activist and writer Dorothy Allison who once wrote, "Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies." In validation of this truism, a series of new peer-reviewed studies have just been released that serve to utterly debunk and deconstruct key "progressive" homosexual-activist talking points.

'Sexuality and Gender: Findings From the Biological, Psychological and Social Sciences'

This study, conducted by world renowned Johns Hopkins University scientists Dr. Lawrence S. Mayer and Dr. Paul R. McHugh, is a meta-analysis of data from over 200 peer-reviewed (and left-leaning) studies regarding "sexual orientation" and "gender identity." It was published in the fall 2016 edition of The New Atlantis journal and is, far and away, the most objective, exhaustive and comprehensive study on the topic to date.

The research established, among other things:

"The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings—the idea that people are 'born that way'—is not supported by scientific evidence."
"Sexual orientation" in adolescents is "fluid over the life course for some people, with one study estimating that as many as 80 percent of male adolescents who report same-sex attractions no longer do so as adults."
"Compared to heterosexuals, non-heterosexuals are about two to three times as likely to have experienced childhood sexual abuse."
"Gay"-identified people are "at an elevated risk for a variety of adverse health and mental health outcomes."
"Gay"-identified people experience "nearly 2.5 times the risk of suicide."
"The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate, fixed property of human beings that is independent of biological sex—that a person might be 'a man trapped in a woman's body' or 'a woman trapped in a man's body'—is not supported by scientific evidence."
"Studies comparing the brain structures of transgender and non-transgender individuals ... do not provide any evidence for a neurobiological basis for cross-gender identification."
"[S]ex-reassigned individuals [are] about five times more likely to attempt suicide and about 19 times more likely to die by suicide."
"[T]he rate of lifetime suicide attempts across all ages of transgender individuals is estimated at 41 percent, compared to under 5 percent in the overall U.S. population."
"Only a minority of children who experience cross-gender identification will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood."
Lest you buy the liberal talking point that so-called "homophobia" leads to high rates of suicide and other devastating consequences of the "LGBT" lifestyle, a recent study from "gay"-affirming Sweden dispels this myth. The research, published in the May issue of the European Journal of Epidemiology, found that people entering into a "gay marriage" were, as mirrored above, nearly three times as likely to commit suicide than their heterosexual counterparts.

"Even in a country with a comparatively tolerant climate regarding homosexuality such as Sweden," observed the researchers, "same-sex married individuals evidence a higher risk for suicide than other married individuals."

To borrow from James Carville: It's the lifestyle, stupid.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

Meanwhile, the CDC, no bastion of conservatism, just released this month a report establishing and detailing the devastating effects of "LGBT" identity and behaviors on teens "grades 9-12."

Writing at WND, child advocate Linda Harvey expressed frustration that, despite its irrefutable conclusions, the CDC yet insists upon using such propagandist terms as "sexual minorities" to describe same-sex-attracted teens. She notes that "these adolescents no more qualify as 'minorities' than kids who eat junk food," and cuts through the smokescreen to summarize the report's findings:

"Self-labeled homosexual and bisexual teens were twice as likely as heterosexual teens to have been victims of sexual or physical dating violence, to be regular cigarette smokers, to have tried marijuana before age 13, to ever have used cocaine, hallucinogenic drugs, ecstasy, taken prescription drugs without a doctor's prescription, or to have felt sad or hopeless.

"They were more likely to be current marijuana users than heterosexual students, more likely to drink alcohol, and over four times as likely to have used methamphetamines or heroin.


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"They were four times as likely to actually attempt suicide.

"Homosexual and bisexual students were about 25 percent more likely to have had sexual intercourse, and more likely to be currently sexually active and to have had four or more partners.

"They are more than twice as likely to have had sexual intercourse before age 13. Can we just have a heart and ask: with whom? Were these adult 'partners'? (aka molesters)."

It's notable here that, in past studies, researchers with the CDC have indeed discovered that "gay" men are "at least three times more likely to report CSA (childhood sexual abuse)," while the left-leaning Archives of Sexual Behavior similarly determined in a 2001 study that nearly half of all "gay"-identified men were, as children, molested by a homosexual predator: "46 percent of homosexual men and 22 percent of homosexual women reported having been molested by a person of the same gender. This contrasts to only 7 percent of heterosexual men and 1 percent of heterosexual women reporting having been molested by a person of the same gender."

Considering the above non-biased, replicated, empirical and irrefutable scientific facts, its little wonder that an earlier study in the International Journal of Epidemiology (IJE), determined the "life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men."

Unnatural behaviors beget natural consequences. "Gay" is not who they are. "Gay" is what they do.

You think me callous. You think I hate. I'm not and I don't. Truth is hate to those who hate truth. I love self-identified "LGBT" individuals with a love beyond my own power to summon. I love them because Christ first loved me. I love them because, like them, I am a sinner in need of a Savior. They are under deception. The enemy of man is the father of lies, and he prowls like a lion seeking to both deceive and devour us all.

I know what it's like to have someone close to me struggle with same-sex attraction and adopt an aberrant sexual identity. I have a dear family member wasting away with AIDS at this very moment. While I love him, I also understand that if I were to affirm his lifestyle and offer well-intentioned yet dangerously misguided "compassion," I would be hurting him, not helping him.

I offer true compassion. I offer truth, in love.

If you truly love someone, you should never, ever encourage them in a demonstrably destructive and subjective "gay," "lesbian," "bisexual" or "transgender" identity. Love them unconditionally, but encourage them to find freedom from it.

Because, whether spiritual, physical, or both, it may be the difference between life and death.

Matt Barber is founder and editor-in chief of barbwire.com. He is an author, columnist, cultural analyst and an attorney concentrating in constitutional law. Having retired as an undefeated heavyweight professional boxer, Matt has taken his fight from the ring to the culture war. (Follow Matt on Twitter: @jmattbarber).




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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 2:17:49 PM   
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Thank you.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 2:24:57 PM   
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You're welcome.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 2:33:21 PM   
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Gay Gene - If there is no genetic component to attraction to the same sex; that opens the radical right argument that gay is a lifestyle choice that can be cured by therapy. Yet, talk of actually researching for a "gay gene" gets a researcher labeled as homophobic. Personally, I have no dog in that hunt and an individuals sexual proclivity only effects my life if it is criminal (i.e. pedophilia) or is shoved in my face. To put in more personally; grab my ass at work and we will have problems. (yes, that happened when I was young and attractive)


Were one of my kids come out as gay; I would be a bit sad. Not about their being gay but because they would have an extra load of excrement to deal with in any career they pursued.

Childhood sexual abuse of a hetero male child is still viewed as something that "just doesn't happen" in many cultures. That was extremely true in a person who was a child in the 60s.

If actually asked; I'd say I'm a theoretical bisexual. I see nothing wrong with same sex physical affection. But, the few males I've ever considered physically attractive didn't reciprocate. Que sera.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 2:41:49 PM   
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I thought it had been proven that there was a genetic component, along with environmental factors?

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 3:27:33 PM   
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I thought it had been proven that there was a genetic component, along with environmental factors?

No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay and whatever the book of phycological disorders is called dropped gay. But, no scientific proof. And, as said above, anyone who'd look for a gay gene is vilified. And, that is your science loving left.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 3:38:25 PM   
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No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay


Holy hell - so being gay is natural - and indeed God made them that way?

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 3:49:21 PM   
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I don't think that's what Nnanji meant, Peon.

I could be wrong but that's not how I read it.


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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 3:54:54 PM   
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WhoreM, there is a genetic predisposition to everything I think. However homosexuals probably have less kids and therefore do not pass it on so much. And there has been much debate over nature v nurture.

As far as I can discern, an anorexic has certain traits. First of all it usually occurs in female as far as I know. It is in how they see themselves. When you can see your ribs and think you are too fat, where did you get that idea ? Weigh yourself and measure your height, if it is normal don't sweat it. But they cannot do that.

Is it that their primary caretaker was a rail when they were little ? Or is it in their mind like some chemical imbalance caused by their Mother's body chemistry ?

And one thing I will say again is that overweight people are usually malnourished. They overeat because their body lacks something. That is physical. Anorexia/bolemia are at the opposite end of the spectrum here. Some overweight people are overweight because of mental issues.

If you have kids or pets, my advice is to NEVER EVER use food or treats as a reward. Find something else. now wonder if maybe a(n) (maybe sexually) abusive caretaker was getting the kid to shut up with treats. When that kid reaches adulthood, what do you think is going to happen ? I am not saying this is cut and dried by any means, it is just one possibility out of many.

And the dependence on social acceptance is a big problem as well. I was taught from day one that peoples' opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But some of these kids are so hung up on it, well look at the suicides they say were induced by twits or that other thing, facepalm or whatever. Peer acceptance, I never had much of it usually but I did not kill myself.

What are they teaching these kids ? This can't all be genetic.

Years ago in France they made a law about the minimum weight of models because the teenagers were starving themselves to get thinner. Now the French might not be all that smart but they have been running nuclear power plants for quite some time without an accident. They are not stupid. They made a law like that for a reason and that reason must be that they see these teenage girls idolising these models who are skin and bones. They obviously agree with me that it is a matter of wanting acceptance, no actually more than acceptance, perhaps reverence because they are so svelte.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:24:52 PM   
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I don't think that's what Nnanji meant, Peon.

I could be wrong but that's not how I read it.



Nope, but it's a corollary of what he said.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:29:50 PM   
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Wow... all i have to do is get my Phd and suddenly what i "think" becomes scientific fact.... is that how it works?

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:30:27 PM   
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Eating disorders....
Anorexia
Bulimia
Compulsive Overeating
Exercise Addicted Body Image disorder.

You hear more about women having Anorexia. I know for a fact Bulimia happens in men too. I had to report a kid working for me in the Navy after noting he went to throw up after EVERY MEAL Compulsive overeating is probably the most common. Think about the person that eats lightly during the workday but keeps grazing from the fridge when confronted with being alone for the night. Exercise addiction is a related disorder. One gent I know will eat a whole bucket of KFC then go doing cardio workout for six hours after work. His whole life revolves around huge meals followed by insane amounts of exercise.

Current research shows that there is a genetic pre-disposition. There is also a huge issue with the intestinal flora as well. In lab rats, you give them a biotic mix from an obese rat and that rat becomes obese. The term "fecal transplant" gets a huge ewwwww factor but the research is being done in humans now. There are gastric infections (and not talking parasitology) that will cause changes resulting in cravings for things like salt or sweet foods. I think that when the research shakes out; obesity will become treatable with appropriate biotic medication coupled with behavior modification training.

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A lot of the "everyone knows" kind of stuff actually doesn't hold water when tested. Corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, doesn't cause diabetes it is just another sugar to the digestive system. But, you can consistently and provably give lab rats diabetes by giving them artificial sweeteners. "Sweet" causes insulin production to handle the sugar properly. Giving "sweet" with nothing to work on just trains the pancreas to make less insulin... the definition of diabetes is insufficient insulin production. So goes the hypothesis that is undergoing animal trials.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:35:31 PM   
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No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay


Holy hell - so being gay is natural - and indeed God made them that way?

Let's see, I was replying to someone and you didn't like the information or that I provided it? It was, after all, information not opinion.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:36:58 PM   
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I don't think that's what Nnanji meant, Peon.

I could be wrong but that's not how I read it.


Thank you, it wasn't.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:38:21 PM   
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quote:

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I don't think that's what Nnanji meant, Peon.

I could be wrong but that's not how I read it.



Nope, but it's a corollary of what he said.

In what system is what you said a corollary to what I said?

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 4:56:06 PM   
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I thought it had been proven that there was a genetic component, along with environmental factors?


It is a bit suspicious that most of the links that emphatically say that there is no evidence for a genetic component to sexual orientation tend to be from Religious or Right wing sources. There are plenty of links from mainstream sources saying that there is good evidence of a genetic component: [This one and This one are the the top 2 results.

As with everything else in science, the only way to find out what the scientific consensus is is to completely ignore the media and the parties interested in promoting a particular view, and spend a lot of time reading about a wide range of the different studies that have been done in more than one peer-reviewed Scientific journal. This is very tedious as they are usually very boring, even for people who are interested in the subject, and you tend to find that scientists are very reluctant to say anything at all, especially emphatically. Their favourite conclusions involve a lot of "Possibly"; "Maybe"; "This could suggest that.."; and of course "We recommend further studies in x,y, z". When scientists in a particular field of study are virtually unanimous and shouting very loudly that something is definitely true (like they are with climate change), then this is extremely unusual and we should perhaps pay more attention to them when they do this than we currently tend to do.

Since I'm too lazy to read scientific journals, I'll just be content that every scientist with a background in any of the biological sciences who I've heard or read on the subject of any aspect of human behaviour, has seemed to treat it as totally obvious that absolutely everything to do with humans is a result of the interaction of both genetic and environmental factors.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 5:04:21 PM   
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Yeah no, just no.

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RE: LGBT compared to having anorexia - 11/16/2016 5:22:23 PM   
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Your "Information" should be corrected
There is no such thing as a phycologist or a book on phycological disorders
There is no information there, only bad grammar and opinion.

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No. Some phycologists accepted the born gay and whatever the book of phycological disorders is called dropped gay. But, no scientific proof. And, as said above, anyone who'd look for a gay gene is vilified. And, that is your science loving left.


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