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jlf1961 -> RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota (8/6/2017 7:29:50 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
But since it was a Muslim community center targeted, there is no reason for anyone to be overly concerned, I mean it is not like it Baptists, Presbyterians, Catholics or Methodists were targeted.
no one really thinks that. so what does that make you?
I beg to disagree, hate crimes against Muslim Americans have risen dramatically since the election of Donald Trump, almost reaching the numbers in the two years immediately after 9/11.
By the same token, it is must also be noted that the rate of cases involving crimes against Muslim Americans being solvedis lower than those against other ethnic groups, as noted in a report to the Senate Judiciary committee in May.
This means either 1) local authorities are not trying to solve them, or 2) the people committing these crimes are damn good at covering up the evidence.
The current anti Muslim rhetoric coming out of the white house and some of the more extreme right wing media sources does not help the situation.
Bosco, as far as referring to Islam as a cult, it is just one more way of diminishing a large percentage of the population on the planet. I would also point out that Judaism has often been referred to as a cult in anti Semitic writings and rhetoric, and I am sure that you do not wish to be classed with those groups or individuals.
I also suggest you do a bit of research on the Jewish groups that used the same tactics against the Palestinians and Arabs as well as the British prior to the formation of the State of Israel.
As far as the US being targeted, it must be admitted that Americans and US holdings did not become targets of terrorist acts until the US started retaliation strikes in response to terrorist attacks on Israel, further more, the frequency of attacks against the US increased after the first gulf war when US military units were stationed in Saudi Arabia in preparation for the liberation of Kuwait, and did not actually start until after it became clear that the US was going to maintain units near the Muslim holy city of Mecca.
But let me ask you one question:
If the US supports a country that has illegally occupied territory and, even after the international community condemned the practice of evicting the residents of those territories to build settlements strictly for those of one religion, would you not consider the US suspect?
Lets carry that a bit further.
The US condemned South Africa for Apartheid to the point of trade embargoes, trade sanctions, where the small minority of whites controlled the government and did not give even basic rights to the majority of native Africans, yet in Israel, the Jewish population is not the overwhelming majority and in the occupied territories, are actually the minority.
Yet the only thing that the US or any other western nation does is nothing more than public condemnation of the clearly ethnically motivated practices.
Sorry, but the double standard the US government uses in actions against countries committing human rights violations is a large part of the motivation for us being targets.
Bottom line, any group that feels that they are unfairly targeted is going to react, and in the case of the Muslims, it is a relatively small majority that have embraced religious extremism to justify cold blooded mass murder.
Contrary to popular right wing belief, Muslims in America do not want us to switch to Sharia law, there is no movement for such a switch, and the religious courts conducted by Muslims in the US are no different than the religious courts conducted by Hasidic and Orthodox Jewish communities, neither of which has any weight under US civic and criminal law, and neither religious court system ruling is binding outside the community.
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