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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:11:50 AM   
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Christians believe that Jesus nullified the Old Testament,

Really??? So all those Christians who quote Deuteronomy at queers are wrong? That's Old Testament isn't it? And all those self identified Christians who believe in the Biblical injunction "An eye for an eye ...." and use it to justify the death penalty aren't Christians in your book? All those Christians who assert that the entire Bible is the unvarnished word of God are wrong? There are millions of them. They're called fundamentalists and/or literalists and there's lots of them about.

Every religion has its lunatic fundamentalists, and they all sound insane to me. But there's no reason to single one religion out and insist that the fundamentalists' interpretation of that religion is the only valid one. If I were to do that about Christians you would rightly criticise me.

So I don't see any reason why only Muslims are subjected to this inane approach and Christian fundamentalists get off scot free - except bigotry.

Not to mention the fact that in churches all across the country preachers still preach from the Old Testament. It's still taught in Sunday school classes. And yes, still cited by many Christmas as the basis for their beliefs about social issues. So that argument is BS.

It's not from the New testament that we get all those "hellfire and brimstone" sermons that so many Christians are brought up on.

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:16:16 AM   
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Christians believe that Jesus nullified the Old Testament,

Really??? So all those Christians who quote Deuteronomy at queers are wrong? That's Old Testament isn't it? And all those self identified Christians who believe in the Biblical injunction "An eye for an eye ...." and use it to justify the death penalty aren't Christians in your book? All those Christians who assert that the entire Bible is the unvarnished word of God are wrong? There are millions of them. They're called fundamentalists and/or literalists and there's lots of them about.

Every religion has its lunatic fundamentalists, and they all sound insane to me. But there's no reason to single one religion out and insist that the fundamentalists' interpretation of that religion is the only valid one. If I were to do that about Christians you would rightly criticise me.

So I don't see any reason why only Muslims are subjected to this inane approach and Christian fundamentalists get off scot free - except bigotry.


Of course, being leftist scum, you had to trim the relevant citation from my quote so you could attack a straw man rather than my actual post

Here it is again: Christians believe that Jesus nullified the Old Testament, because of verses such as these in Mathew:

Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor' and 'hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Leftist trash have nothing without their fallacies


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:16:42 AM   
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I still believe in Man's innate desire for Liberty to win out. At some point in time, there will be a tipping point and whatever tyrannical government is in place will be overturned for one that provides a larger amount of Liberty.
To think that the majority of Muslims are playing a long game towards world domination is one helluva conspiracy theory. You might want to go out and get the heavy duty aluminum foil for your next tricorn hat.

You are a moron in denial about the history of Islam. The Islamic cult will keep doing exactly as they have been doing very effectively for over 1000 years, taking over vast swaths of territory while fools like you dream about the inherent goodness of those who are determined to slaughter or enslave you
Buddhists used to expose their throats to the conquering hordes much like you, but after losing so many millions of people that way they eventually wised up and began to fight back
Every land Muslims now control was relatively recently inhabited by other peoples who are now gone forever
You can say times are different now, try telling that to the Yazidis, and other recent victims of Muslim genocide


Yeah, I'm the moron.

If they had been very effective about it, wouldn't they be a whole lot closer to world domination? Gimme a fucking break. At this rate, they might take over shortly before our sun snuffs out.

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:19:11 AM   
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Maybe it was 'Muesli-ists' ...............they are known to be cereal-killers


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:20:29 AM   
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Yeah, I'm the moron.

If they had been very effective about it, wouldn't they be a whole lot closer to world domination? Gimme a fucking break. At this rate, they might take over shortly before our sun snuffs out.


Slaughtering and controlling the population of 1/3 of the planet in a little over a thousand years (a relatively very short period of time) isn't enough for an idiot like you... ?

Of course it isn't. Which, that sort of stupidity is what makes you such an idiot

ETA: They declared jihad against the West in WW I and were soundly defeated, which the only reason they do not have MORE dead people under feet, and more control over the planet, was that they have been met with overwhelming force

Which has only slowed their advance. They are still advancing, through migration and higher birth rates as well as mass slaughter as we see in Syria and elsewhere

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:22:02 AM   
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Question is, who did the bombing? And over what motive?


I did read an article that stated (don't recall which article I read off the Yahoo! News feed, so this may or may not be true) this mosque had a large number of Somali's in the congregation. Since the cop that shot the woman through the cruiser door was Somali, this might have something to do with why it was bombed.

Again, that might all be hearsay, or it might be true. I don't know.


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:34:34 AM   
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Slaughtering and controlling the population of 1/3 of the planet in a little over a thousand years (a relatively very short period of time) isn't enough for an idiot like you... ?

All of the landmass? (You do know that 2/3 of the Earth is water, right?) Are you saying that despite the biovating orange shitgibbon's attempts to defend against the moslem horde, America has fallen?

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Question is, who did the bombing? And over what motive?


I did read an article that stated (don't recall which article I read off the Yahoo! News feed, so this may or may not be true) this mosque had a large number of Somali's in the congregation. Since the cop that shot the woman through the cruiser door was Somali, this might have something to do with why it was bombed.

Again, that might all be hearsay, or it might be true. I don't know.


Sounds fairly plausible, at least.

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:42:11 AM   
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Christians believe that Jesus nullified the Old Testament,

Really??? So all those Christians who quote Deuteronomy at queers are wrong? That's Old Testament isn't it? And all those self identified Christians who believe in the Biblical injunction "An eye for an eye ...." and use it to justify the death penalty aren't Christians in your book? All those Christians who assert that the entire Bible is the unvarnished word of God are wrong? There are millions of them. They're called fundamentalists and/or literalists and there's lots of them about.
Every religion has its lunatic fundamentalists, and they all sound insane to me. But there's no reason to single one religion out and insist that the fundamentalists' interpretation of that religion is the only valid one. If I were to do that about Christians you would rightly criticise me.
So I don't see any reason why only Muslims are subjected to this inane approach and Christian fundamentalists get off scot free - except bigotry.

Not to mention the fact that in churches all across the country preachers still preach from the Old Testament. It's still taught in Sunday school classes. And yes, still cited by many Christmas as the basis for their beliefs about social issues. So that argument is BS.
It's not from the New testament that we get all those "hellfire and brimstone" sermons that so many Christians are brought up on.


Really?

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Brimstone

14 occurrences of "brimstone." 6 are in Revelations (the rest are Old Testament).

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/Lake-of-Fire

6 occurrences of "Lake of Fire." All are in Revelations.

There were 641 uses of the word "Fire." Not all of them had anything to do with "Fire and Brimstone" preaching.

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:42:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Muslims are 22% of global population, and Muslim countries are 19% of land area. So he's only inflated the facts by 74%.


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:44:50 AM   
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*(or, to use a slightly pejorative term, lying)

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:48:52 AM   
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Yeah, I'm the moron.
If they had been very effective about it, wouldn't they be a whole lot closer to world domination? Gimme a fucking break. At this rate, they might take over shortly before our sun snuffs out.

Slaughtering and controlling the population of 1/3 of the planet in a little over a thousand years (a relatively very short period of time) isn't enough for an idiot like you... ?
Of course it isn't. Which, that sort of stupidity is what makes you such an idiot
ETA: They declared jihad against the West in WW I and were soundly defeated, which the only reason they do not have MORE dead people under feet, and more control over the planet, was that they have been met with overwhelming force
Which has only slowed their advance. They are still advancing, through migration and higher birth rates as well as mass slaughter as we see in Syria and elsewhere


Slaughtering and controlling 1/3 of the planet.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

Still way more Christians (2.4B compared to 1.7B). Considering how much infighting there is among several denominations of Islamic faith, your fears are likely overplayed.




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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:51:08 AM   
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Muslims are 22% of global population, and Muslim countries are 19% of land area. So he's only inflated the facts by 74%.




If you weren't a total tard you might realize that Muslims control a lot of territory outside of "Muslim countries"

We will soon be bombing ISIS in areas of the Philippines that they control, for example. They control most of North Africa, and have a lot of control in many other locations



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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:52:40 AM   
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Slaughtering and controlling 1/3 of the planet.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

Still way more Christians (2.4B compared to 1.7B). Considering how much infighting there is among several denominations of Islamic faith, your fears are likely overplayed.



It's always fun to see Muslim apologists proudly point out that "harmless" Muslims even slaughter one another in great numbers

Christians have been around for nearly twice as long as Muslims, and as a rule do not slaughter everyone they come in contact with the way Muslims often do


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 10:55:11 AM   
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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 11:11:28 AM   
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Slaughtering and controlling 1/3 of the planet.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions
Still way more Christians (2.4B compared to 1.7B). Considering how much infighting there is among several denominations of Islamic faith, your fears are likely overplayed.

It's always fun to see Muslim apologists proudly point out that "harmless" Muslims even slaughter one another in great numbers
Christians have been around for nearly twice as long as Muslims, and as a rule do not slaughter everyone they come in contact with the way Muslims often do


I'm hardly a "Muslim apologist." The lack of Christians not slaughtering others, and especially not each other (anymore) should lead even you to understand that Islam isn't going to overtake the world.


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 11:22:13 AM   
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I'm hardly a "Muslim apologist." The lack of Christians not slaughtering others, and especially not each other (anymore) should lead even you to understand that Islam isn't going to overtake the world.



The concern is their undeniable, terrible, constant, continuing propensity for violence wherever they are

What I suggest is containment, rather than importing them in great numbers because of that propensity for violence.

Common sense.

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 11:47:56 AM   
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Slaughtering and controlling the population of 1/3 of the planet in a little over a thousand years (a relatively very short period of time) isn't enough for an idiot like you... ?

All of the landmass? (You do know that 2/3 of the Earth is water, right?) Are you saying that despite the biovating orange shitgibbon's attempts to defend against the moslem horde, America has fallen?

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Question is, who did the bombing? And over what motive?


I did read an article that stated (don't recall which article I read off the Yahoo! News feed, so this may or may not be true) this mosque had a large number of Somali's in the congregation. Since the cop that shot the woman through the cruiser door was Somali, this might have something to do with why it was bombed.

Again, that might all be hearsay, or it might be true. I don't know.


Sounds fairly plausible, at least.

Still waiting on those figures that show TRUE crime against Muslim's has risen since 2015.

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 12:34:07 PM   
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I'm hardly a "Muslim apologist." The lack of Christians not slaughtering others, and especially not each other (anymore) should lead even you to understand that Islam isn't going to overtake the world.

The concern is their undeniable, terrible, constant, continuing propensity for violence wherever they are
What I suggest is containment, rather than importing them in great numbers because of that propensity for violence.
Common sense.


Then you're little better than they are. At least you're not calling for killing them. Any Muslim, of any denomination, has the same basic religious rights than any other religious follower has in the US.

How can you not understand that? You can stomp your feet all you want. Cross your arms, stick that lower lip out, and pout in the corner all you want. We aren't changing the Constitution to massage your delusions. The majority of those that follow Islam in the US aren't bloodthirsty stark raving mad lunatics hellbent on killing "infidels." If they are here and aren't breaking any of our laws, then there is no legal consequence we can visit upon them. What happens in other countries doesn't determine how we treat people here.

I don't want to "import" anyone, regardless of their religion, ethnicity, or intellect. I agree we have to have a robust immigration system to prevent those that would do us harm from getting the opportunity to do so within our borders.


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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 12:41:20 PM   
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Then you're little better than they are. At least you're not calling for killing them. Any Muslim, of any denomination, has the same basic religious rights than any other religious follower has in the US.

How can you not understand that? You can stomp your feet all you want. Cross your arms, stick that lower lip out, and pout in the corner all you want. We aren't changing the Constitution to massage your delusions. The majority of those that follow Islam in the US aren't bloodthirsty stark raving mad lunatics hellbent on killing "infidels." If they are here and aren't breaking any of our laws, then there is no legal consequence we can visit upon them. What happens in other countries doesn't determine how we treat people here.

I don't want to "import" anyone, regardless of their religion, ethnicity, or intellect. I agree we have to have a robust immigration system to prevent those that would do us harm from getting the opportunity to do so within our borders.



Before you go screaming down Howler Lane, point out where I advocated taking away anyone's "right" to be a member of a bloodthirsty cult (which frankly, isn't a bad idea, as the Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact).

What I wrote is, common sense would dictate that we cease importing them in mass quantities

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RE: Terrorist attack in Minnesota - 8/9/2017 12:56:59 PM   
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at the same time, preaching from the old testament is not de facto an admonition to "follow" it.

the old testament speaks to the law, jesus was the fulfillment of the law and Christians live by grace.

attempts to create a sort of moral equivalency between the old testament for Christians, and what the Koran is for many muslims, are just plain wrong.

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