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RE: What are furries? - 8/20/2006 10:14:06 PM   
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Slipstream, you are a unique and interesting person who describes things well. Thanks for telling us about furries. I had an idea from reading your other posts, but this defines it precisely.

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RE: What are furries? - 8/20/2006 11:43:04 PM   
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Another site in this vein that gives an example of the more animation / sexuality mix...

http://FurroticDreams.com

there is some chain mail avail in the store, i'm not sure what the connection is, i'll ask the guy who owns the site.

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 2:44:36 AM   
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*blushes*

Thanks ExSteel. I just told it like I've experienced it and what I know from other furs.

BTW, for those who think furs are strange, I did get to hang with my fur friends today. Our discussion: relationship issues, greeting old friends and then Sarin and I had a long discussion about sadomasochism (things to do, future ambitions), Gorean slavery (he is interested in becoming a Gorean Master. His slave lives with him.) and how to defend yourself (something I am afriad I am not able to do), and a bit about my dying car. Normal human issues, naturally. 

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 3:02:27 AM   
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greetings lol
 
ok here is new and this is for all furries are adult who dress as animal teddy bears, foxes all
kind of aninal now they dress up in these large coustem and they all have a place to meet. '
this is a sexual kink for many people they will go to parties and rub and make sexual humping on each other and yes folk they come i think hey kink is kink but it is trues they have fun i heard so this is something new fro all
 
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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 3:17:34 AM   
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Mons. That is the biggest misconception about the furry fandom.

Yes there is kink in the furry fandom.

But, not all furries are into the kink.

1: Fursuits are hot, very hot, and I dont mean in the sexual way. Many people won't do it because it is too uncomfortable to do so.

2: Many fursuits can be easily damaged. Why spend $1000 on a suit and destroy it, if it is fragile?

3: Fur is hard to keep clean. It must be dry cleaned (recommended). It must be brushed out on a regular basis. Or you get knotted mussed fur and that never looks good.

Basically, the only real kink that can happen in a fursuit is vanilla light sex. Nothing too rough. And that is only if the suits are modified. If not, you are SOL.

Although, I did cane a wolffie (wore head) once and a fox (full costume, light caning).

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  hey will go to parties and rub and make sexual humping on each other


And where, pray tell, are these parties? I have been a fur for three active years and a therian all my life, and I have never been invited to or seen such parties.

Yes, sex happens at the parties. Usually it is because most of the people there are young, polygamous, bisexual males. BUT: This usually only happens between established Friends. Much like any normal human being having sex with another normal human being solely for the fun of having sex.

Humping. The funny thing about humping is that friends tend to do that to scare the shit out of, or annoy the shit out of their friends. I tend to do "drive by ass smacking" and threatening with canes and floggers of a couple of my furry friends. It has nothing to do with kink more than it is simply friends fooling around.

My group furmeets: PG-13 rated behaviour. Unless only the sexually oriented people show up, then there might be some sucking and rubbing, but not really. I have hosted one meet, that because only close friends showed up, a couple of whom I already scened with, or rubbed on, the PG-13 rule was lifted. I ended up flogging and being flogged the same night. There was some sucking going on around me.

These kind of get togethers are usually only a few people. Admittedly, if someone decided to hold events where there were no rules, yes horny people would show up and go find a room somewhere. However, remember, alternative lifestyles tend to cross over. BDSM/ Swinging/ Polyfidelity and Polygamy exist in furry fandom. They also exist everywhere. NOT just with the furries.   

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 3:29:13 AM   
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Another note about kink and furs.

Every fetish depicted in furry art, exists elsewhere in human culture, but adapted to anthropormorphic, human hybrid or human like animals..

Sex in a fursuit is no difference than sex in any kind of cosplay costume. The only difference is the character is supposed to be half animal, not a dirty nurse or school boy.

Apparently these two facts escape people when they decide to judge furs. 

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 3:37:57 AM   
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I learned something new today, thanks everyone.

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 4:25:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MzMinx

they where even in a CSI  episode  *grins* .... now  those writters  are  definitly kinky

Me being pedantic now.
The section shown in CSI were mostly plushies, not furies.  Furies are human/animal where as plushies are the mascot types with full on soft costume, and usually do not take on human characteristics.
 
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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 4:57:03 AM   
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Isn't there some kind of sexual undercurrent to the whole thing too? Or is that Trekkies and Klingons? 


Badddd.....actually i always thought Klingon sex would be hot! All that snapping, scratching, snarling, and biting.....

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 5:12:27 AM   
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thank you for being pedantic ... dark


as  always from the oustide its hard to tell the shadeings and differences within  various groups

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 5:22:53 AM   
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You are most welcome...
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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 8:21:51 AM   
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Thank you for all your input, Slipstreme.
This has been so informative and eye opening. I've learned so much.
Would people who're relating as birds also be considered a furrie?

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 9:42:04 AM   
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I've only glanced through the thread since I'm short on time today, but I have to say that the term 'furry' has a wide array of definitions depending on who you talk to.
 
I consider myself to be a furry, but there are aspects of the 'furry community' that I don't ascribe to.  I learned to draw because I was interested in cartoons and anthropromorphic animals.  I roleplay on a text-based role-play game, and my character is the MUSH's only Kasa Horansi.  Basically a nine-foot tall tigress who kicks some serious ass.  I do identify closely with nature and always have, even before I knew what 'furry' was.  I don't do the cons and fursuits, though.  I don't go around saying that I was a tigress in a past life or that I'm really a cat stuck in a human's body.  I simply admit that I'm a bit different than most and leave it at that.
 
Interesting thread topic.
 
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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 10:01:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Slipstreme

Another note about kink and furs.

Every fetish depicted in furry art, exists elsewhere in human culture, but adapted to anthropormorphic, human hybrid or human like animals..

Sex in a fursuit is no difference than sex in any kind of cosplay costume. The only difference is the character is supposed to be half animal, not a dirty nurse or school boy.

Apparently these two facts escape people when they decide to judge furs. 


w00t

It's good to see that there are still some furres out there.  Unfortunately, I've not had the opportunity to meet others just yet, I hope  to eventually.  I applaud your posts, which are very well thought out and very concise for those that do not have a good idea or just plain do not know who/what we are.  For those of you that visit the chat room, there are a few of us there that are regulars and are mildly open about our characters at times. 

And I completely agree that it is a shame that so many people overlook the basic "roleplay" factor of furres.  Granted for some or most it's more of who they are than you're basic dress-up scene.  I know for me it is more than just roleplay, but it's not something I "slip into" as regularly or as readily as other parts of me, at this point in my development it's more of a garnishing on the mood that I am in, though it's been coming out on it's own as my play with my boyfriend shifts and changes.


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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 10:23:36 AM   
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The section shown in CSI were mostly plushies, not furies.  Furies are human/animal where as plushies are the mascot types with full on soft costume, and usually do not take on human characteristics.


Actually they are furrys. They are however, often called and referred to as fursuiters, or furry lifestylers. They are not plushies. Fursuits are usually mascot type suits because furs in general tend to  have an appreciation for more toony art and materials. They prefer cute over realistic for the most part. Plus realistic fursuits tend to be relatively hard to make, although I have found a few artists who make some nice ones. I plan on building my Slipstreme fursuit sometime soon this year, and are building it myself because it is 1: I know exactly what it should look like. 2: It is cheaper. My roomate is an ardent fursuiter, playing a skunk and a blue fox. He is also a Con whore, going to just about every fur con there is in the US. :P

Plushie refers to someone who either loves to collect plush (stuffed) animals, likes art depicting furrys as stuffed animals or have a sexual fascination with stuffed animals, and may use said items in their sex play (ie, attaching things and placing strategic holes. Term for it is plushophilia). My friend Desi, although not a plushophile can be considered a plushie because of her love of and subsequent large collection of stuffed animals.

In general, plushies, fursuiters and others in the community, be they dragons or birds, are referred to collectively and by each other as Furries (Furrys) or furs. Dragons and sometimes birds can be called scalies, but in general everyone in the community is a fur. Although I do know one fur who insists he be called Draconic (because he is a dragon), and not furry. (He also tends to be rather full of himself, someone you just want to hit sometimes) 

Etc: My fursonae (plural of fursona, the character you play, can be a deep connection to, or simply a character you make up) are a sabretooth which appears almost like a mix between a wolf, sabretooth cat and hyena, named Slipstreme. And the evil sadistic basterd Gorath, a great horned owl. These two characters I feel are a part of me all the time, one the physical embodiment of my wereside (theriantrophy) which I am always aware of, the owl made me realize it was not just a made up character, but repressed sides of my personality. It might also be another wereside. I have multiple roleplay characters, a couple who were past fursonas while I was trying to figure out what I was. I roleplay in text based paragraphs, and outside of roleplay, which there must be outside of roleplay I am pretty much myself. My fur name, what I am known as in the community as a whole, is Nova (came from a previous fursona). Some furs do continuously live as their character as close as possible. Some don't have a character, but just a name. And some are just in it for the art. Milage may vary there is a lot of variation in the furry community.

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 10:32:11 AM   
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Fox is one.

Unfortunately he neither posts here nor reads here.

From what I can piece together, it seems to be someone who identifies with animal-like qualities but usually from an aspect of a animal who is anthropomorphic in nature -- can think, talk, feeling somewhat like a human but not restricted by all human rules and expectations to various degrees.


Fox identifies with two types of animals -- a fox (big surprise) and a wolf, and also often more with the female model he has in his mind.

I can't claim to really understand it but it is part of who he is and he is a good man and a good slave regardless of if he's doing it as his human self or some furry part of himself. (he says I'm a black panther to him -- and I sometimes play with that)

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 10:39:39 AM   
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Fox identifies with two types of animals -- a fox (big surprise) and a wolf, and also often more with the female model he has in his mind.


It is uncommon for people to have multiple fursonas but still relatively prevalent, especially if they are genderqueer in my case, or transexual in the case of my slave. Gorath is male. Slipstreme is a hermaphrodite, although I am genetically female. Both Chris and z have two fursonas, although in z's case, Airwolf (male wolf) was who she was, not who she is. 

It is also common for people to pick characters who are their opposite gender because they may have always wondered what it is like to be the opposite gender, and so, get that kindof release playing a fur.

Many people do however, have multiple roleplay characters.

I don't know if either of the two above are the case.

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 10:46:52 AM   
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The people who I associate with who indulge in mascot costuming, refere to themselves as plushies.   Maybe its a UK distinction -  I cannot say.  Admitedly they do have a strong sexual fixation with the concept of plush toys and costuming as well.  They regularly indulge in sexual intimacy with either plush toys or the costumes, whilst dressed or undressed in said garments.  One person I know (rather embaressingly for him) was rushed to hospital suffering from heat exhaustion and was severely dehydrated.  I am only going by the way that plushies refere to themselves as I have met.
 
My self, I have never refered myself as a furry, although I have had several furries suggest that I have that particular fetish (I am a pteraphile and enjoy using them within play and gain sexual arousel from them).
 
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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 10:56:05 AM   
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This is kind of sad, but I have a childhood friend that is an anthropomorph/furry fetishist. The man is literally a 40 year old virgin that is saving himself until nanotechnology can allow him to sleep with his dream feline. As a kid he partook in various BBS ( pre internet computer networking, for you young 'uns ) that focused on furries. He had me reading a sci/fi story The Stone God Awakens, a book that has bipedial racoons, when I was 14. Our after school discussions frequently touched upon the subject, and when our little mob was 16, he confessed to being a furry fan the same night that I confessed to bondage & discipline fantasy and another friend confessed to being gay.

 Moral of this story is.... there are harder paths ( or at least paths that miss out on more sex ) than to be gay, into BDSM, or both!
 
Think i'll go to bed now, and probably have dreams about gay bipedial equines in leather.

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RE: What are furries? - 8/21/2006 11:00:43 AM   
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The people who I associate with who indulge in mascot costuming, refere to themselves as plushies.   Maybe its a UK distinction -  I cannot say.  Admitedly they do have a strong sexual fixation with the concept of plush toys and costuming as well.  They regularly indulge in sexual intimacy with either plush toys or the costumes, whilst dressed or undressed in said garments.  One person I know (rather embaressingly for him) was rushed to hospital suffering from heat exhaustion and was severely dehydrated.  I am only going by the way that plushies refere to themselves as I have met.
 
My self, I have never refered myself as a furry, although I have had several furries suggest that I have that particular fetish (I am a pteraphile and enjoy using them within play and gain sexual arousel from them).
 
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It probably has more to do with the plushophilia distinction than the fursuiting, but it might be a UK thing. I know in the United States the amount of plushophiles are rather small, or are people who have tried it but it wasnt really their thing (I fit in  the second category), or it was something they used to do. However, the amount of people who indulge in such activities could be small simply because it isn't something US furs like to come out of the closet about. There is a lot of furry discrimination in the USA, not just normal people against furs, but furs against furs (because of the fetish thing). I know in the USA, fursuit wearers are referred to as fursuiters, especially at the Cons.

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The man is literally a 40 year old virgin that is saving himself until nanotechnology can allow him to sleep with his dream feline
 

Many furs wish they could physically be their character, at least temporarily. One I know of, Cat, has done everything scientifically and body modification technologically possible to become a tiger. (I do not know if Lizardman is a fur.) This is primarily the reason why there are fursuits and art. Many I know of wish nanotechnology and biotechnology gets to the point that creating furs or turning them into furs is possible. Myself included. However, most furs will not go so far as to save themself for the time technology catches up to their dreams. After all, usually they find a human being they love first, who may or may not be another fur. My whole family is furs. Two dragons, a wolf and me, the sabretooth.

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