Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever....


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... Page: <<   < prev  2 3 4 [5] 6   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 8:34:34 PM   
littleonyx


Posts: 657
Joined: 9/10/2006
From: Austin
Status: offline 		Well, I understand him the majority of the time...and if I don't, I simply ask.  And while he may be a complicated man, he is one mighty Master to behold.

*grins and shrugs*  La kajira.

Well wishes,

little onyx

_____________________________

onyx [ˈoniks] noun

a type of precious stone with layers of different colours

(in reply to domiguy)
Profile   Post #: 81
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 8:50:29 PM   
Griswold


Posts: 2739
Joined: 2/12/2007
Status: offline 		It's a simple question...why is it racist to consider black colleges over white colleges?

Why is there an advantage?

Over any?

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 82
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 8:52:43 PM   
wfsubseeking1


Posts: 88
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline 		Did you read the link that was sent about historically black colleges? 

seeking

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 83
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 9:30:16 PM   
domiguy


Posts: 12952
Joined: 5/2/2006
Status: offline 		Gris, it was a few years back when the subject of HBCU's came up and I didn't at that time understand what their exact purpose was in today's world...So I asked one of the sharper people I know on the planet ...She is of Liberian and Zimbabwean decent....graduated from MSU undergrad and law school....So now I am taking her word on why the importance of some of th HBCU's....Is that they provide more support for a student who might be sharp but their high school education was not enough or geared towards preparing them for college....So by giving the students some additional support they are put on a fast track where they will either sink or swim....

I know that I am missing on some of the other points that were brought up...but this was one of the main points that stuck with me.

However some of these universities are considered to be at the forefront in providing a tremendous education.



_____________________________



(in reply to wfsubseeking1)
Profile   Post #: 84
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 9:33:26 PM   
Leisel


Posts: 6
Joined: 1/30/2007
Status: offline 		Why do black people have to justify themselves to white people? Why is this always the way?

Provocative questions are always enjoyable. But OP? You don't have a point of reference. You're just being bitter for some reason. Figure that out first.

Domiguy? Methinks you have a lifetime ghetto pass! How did you become so empathetic?

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 85
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 9:37:05 PM   
wfsubseeking1


Posts: 88
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline 		Tom Joyner's foundation is probably the biggest contributor of HBCU's.  Why not ask him to expound on why he does it?   lmao please don't mention collarme

seeking

< Message edited by wfsubseeking1 -- 4/6/2007 9:38:07 PM >

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 86
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 10:25:27 PM   
Griswold


Posts: 2739
Joined: 2/12/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Leisel

Why do black people have to justify themselves to white people? Why is this always the way?

Provocative questions are always enjoyable. But OP? You don't have a point of reference. You're just being bitter for some reason. Figure that out first.

Domiguy? Methinks you have a lifetime ghetto pass! How did you become so empathetic?


I didn't ask that.

I asked why it was okay to have an all black college but not an all white college?

I asked why it was racist to have one over the other.

There's currently 86 opinions (based on the number that stands as I write this).

There's been more than a few opinions on this subject.  Most have diverged from the topic.  Not unexpected.

Several comments have come in that these colleges do not ascribe to blacks only.

I didn't know that.

They should market that.

(in reply to Leisel)
Profile   Post #: 87
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/6/2007 11:07:58 PM   
hisannabelle


Posts: 1992
Joined: 12/3/2006
From: Tallahassee, FL, USA
Status: offline 		greetings griswold,

hbcus, as have been pointed out time and again, are not all black colleges. they are historically black colleges. there is a difference. as i mentioned before, they (to me) are no different than historically women's colleges (like the one i attend) that now accept men and have male members. hbcus accept white students and many have white faculty members.

any college or university that's existed longer than the last 40-100 years is historically white and historically male by definition, which is why there aren't any self-proclaimed historically white or historically male colleges. it's pretty much an accepted fact. just like hbcus and historically women's colleges, historically white and historically male colleges also now accept other races and the opposite gender.

pretty much, it has to do with the culture you came out of. historically white/male colleges came out of a desire to educate white males at a time when religious institutions were pretty much the only place this happened. historically black colleges were started when black people couldn't get an education at historically white colleges. historically women's colleges were started when women couldn't get an education at historically male colleges. in that time, we've come at least a few steps in the direction of equality, and now most colleges accept students of all race and gender. the reason hbcus and historically women's colleges are more publicized as such has to do, in part, because they are a more recent development, because issues with everybody not having access to education still exist, and the fact that they exist as historically black/women's is a testament to dealing with such harsh issues in education (which are not always limited to race or gender but often social status, wealth, etc.)

annabelle.

< Message edited by hisannabelle -- 4/6/2007 11:12:20 PM >

_____________________________

a'ishah (the artist formerly known as annabelle)
i have the kind of beauty that moves...

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 88
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 12:25:32 AM   
Sinergy


Posts: 9383
Joined: 4/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

 
 
He's a complicated man, and no one understands him but his woman.....


Women's faults are many, Men have but two.
Everything they say, and everything they do.

Sinergy

_____________________________

"There is a fine line between clever and stupid"
David St. Hubbins "This Is Spinal Tap"

"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle


(in reply to domiguy)
Profile   Post #: 89
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 7:36:14 AM   
Griswold


Posts: 2739
Joined: 2/12/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Leisel

Why do black people have to justify themselves to white people? Why is this always the way?

Provocative questions are always enjoyable. But OP? You don't have a point of reference. You're just being bitter for some reason. Figure that out first.

Domiguy? Methinks you have a lifetime ghetto pass! How did you become so empathetic?


The question is neither bitter, happy, pleasant, mean or even striking.

It's a question that clearly makes 90% of the people who responded to it arbitrary, moreover, judgemental.

Black people shouldn't justify themselves to anyone anymore than white, asian or any other group should feel the need to justify themselves to any other group.

I just asked a simple question;  Why is it racist to have an all white college, but it's not racist to have an all black one?

It shouldn't be...but it clearly is.

(in reply to Leisel)
Profile   Post #: 90
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 7:39:18 AM   
littleonyx


Posts: 657
Joined: 9/10/2006
From: Austin
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy
Women's faults are many, Men have but two.
Everything they say, and everything they do.
Sinergy



Well said.  *laughs*  Seriously though, thanks for making me smile.  Again.

And to Mistress Leisel...

Just for my understanding (as I don't wish to post a reply to what I don't understand), are you actually asking the question?  Or were you making an example out of Griswold's post?  I only ask because I want to make sure I have a clear picture of it--it would be idiotic of me to just start rambling and babbling and posting without knowing what I'm posting to.

Well wishes,

little onyx 

_____________________________

onyx [ˈoniks] noun

a type of precious stone with layers of different colours

(in reply to Sinergy)
Profile   Post #: 91
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 8:17:31 AM   
hisannabelle


Posts: 1992
Joined: 12/3/2006
From: Tallahassee, FL, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Griswold
I just asked a simple question;  Why is it racist to have an all white college, but it's not racist to have an all black one?


and i answered your question, starting with the fact that hbcus are not all black colleges. if you want answers so badly, why do you ignore them when you get them?

annabelle.


_____________________________

a'ishah (the artist formerly known as annabelle)
i have the kind of beauty that moves...

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 92
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 8:41:43 AM   
MistressNoName


Posts: 664
Joined: 10/26/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: hisannabelle

quote:

ORIGINAL: Griswold
I just asked a simple question; Why is it racist to have an all white college, but it's not racist to have an all black one?


and i answered your question, starting with the fact that hbcus are not all black colleges. if you want answers so badly, why do you ignore them when you get them?

annabelle.



In answer to this question posed by Griswold: It IS racist to have all-black colleges. But not the way you are thinking. Historically Black colleges were created because it answered a need among the African American community at that time. Blacks were not allowed admittance into the all-white colleges/universities of the day. So, the racism that was imposed upon us at the time created the need for separate educational systems. And by "racism" I mean a system of exclusion imposed by one race or group of people upon another race or group of people based upon incorrect beliefs of superiority and privilege. Racism is not just prejudice or bigotry, but is the ability to apply action to one's bigotry or prejudices.

In the service of clarity,

MNN

PS - you may also find it useful to review the supreme court ruling Brown v. Board of Education (1954).

(in reply to hisannabelle)
Profile   Post #: 93
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 9:12:13 AM   
Leisel


Posts: 6
Joined: 1/30/2007
Status: offline 		Hi Little Onyx.

Mine was more or less an open ended question. Encompassing such issues as affirmative action, African American centered beauty contest, scholarship programs for disadvantaged young people, etc..Basically subjects that seem to raise the ire of some white people. They demand explaination as to why black people seem to have these "special" advantages without the realization that these same people who seem to be given sooooo much, were also the same people for many  generation not allowed to be educated under penalty of severe punishment, and when the powers that be so "graciously" allowed these people to educate their children, it was only in the most rudimentary, substandard way. They were not allowed to own homes in many areas of this country, and the list goes on. Yet, African Americans are asked by white people who don't take time to study historical facts, (past and present history) that would offer them the explainations that they so crave.

Can we imagine a life where everything you needed for basic living had to be fought for? Against people who didn't even view you as human beings?

For Griswold my question to you. Why do you want to know? What difference would it make in your life if black folks didn't have their own schools? Then think. How different would life be for all of us if black people, or other disenfranchised people in this country never had to fight  for basic freedoms.

(in reply to littleonyx)
Profile   Post #: 94
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 5:51:49 PM   
littleonyx


Posts: 657
Joined: 9/10/2006
From: Austin
Status: offline 		Mistress Leisel...

Thank you for clarifying. 

Well wishes,

little onyx

_____________________________

onyx [ˈoniks] noun

a type of precious stone with layers of different colours

(in reply to Leisel)
Profile   Post #: 95
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 6:48:09 PM   
Jack45


Posts: 220
Joined: 12/20/2006
Status: offline
quote:

non-Hispanic whites

Currently we folks who fit that description are 2/3 of the U.S., 66% and shrinking. When the so-called Greatest Generation is gone watch that number plummet.
Mainstream media keep pushing their agenda, it is not in our favor.
We are the only people in history to surrender our homeland without a fight.
The violence against  non-Hispanic whites on the streets of America is pretty staggering if you are able to read the local newspapers across the country, the kind of stuff the media masters decide you don't need  to hear about.

(in reply to ladyofthecastle)
Profile   Post #: 96
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 6:55:20 PM   
mydezire


Posts: 7
Joined: 2/4/2007
Status: offline 		I thought post had something  to do about the lifestyle and not colleges.

(in reply to Griswold)
Profile   Post #: 97
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 7:40:15 PM   
wfsubseeking1


Posts: 88
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: mydezire

I thought post had something  to do about the lifestyle and not colleges.

i think that is why it is in the "Off Topic Discussion" area

seeking


(in reply to mydezire)
Profile   Post #: 98
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 7:41:26 PM   
hisannabelle


Posts: 1992
Joined: 12/3/2006
From: Tallahassee, FL, USA
Status: offline 		greetings jack45,

america is a country of immigrants. non-hispanic whites are not native americans. therefore, unless we're going to state that nobody but non-hispanic whites is american, this country does not belong to non-hispanic whites. it belongs to americans - who are of many different ethnicities, and have always been of many different ethnicities.

respectfully,
annabelle.


_____________________________

a'ishah (the artist formerly known as annabelle)
i have the kind of beauty that moves...

(in reply to mydezire)
Profile   Post #: 99
RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... - 4/7/2007 7:45:46 PM   
lockedaway


Posts: 1720
Joined: 3/15/2007
Status: offline 		That's fine, but are you saying that what Jack45 said is incorrect?

(in reply to hisannabelle)
Profile   Post #: 100
Page:   <<   < prev  2 3 4 [5] 6   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Black Doms, White Doms....what the fuckever.... Page: <<   < prev  2 3 4 [5] 6   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094