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chiaThePet -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 5:15:58 PM)

Hmmmm, so who is it i'm talking to here? On the one hand you're
switchguy4u, on the other you're curiousexplorer. Trying to gang up
on me eh! Well it won't work my man, ahh men, you're original post
still says what it says, no matter what your "split" personality says
about it now. As much fun as it is for the group to watch two
submissives slap each other silly in the middle of the room, such
bores me quickly, so i'll just leave you two to battle it out amongst
yourselves. Am not, are too, am not, are too, <SLAP>

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet) 



minnetar -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 5:27:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

You are slavewife to a racist and that is all there is to that. If you won't divorce him your stuck and you may as well get used to the idea that your children will be raised to be racist just like your Master is.

~Lashra

Though I agree with the first half of this paragraph, Lashra, I don't with the second half. My father was very racist and it especially showed when I started dating. He went through the roof when I brought home my first piece of "white trash" and equally when I brought home the first "nappy headed ho". I was able to see his racism for what it was and over come it primarily because of my mother. Over time, my father has changed. He loves my two nieces very much and is a proud abuelo regardless of the fact the one is half white and the other is half black.


you are fortunate.  my parents have been racists all their life.  i have only been with black men and they disowned me when i was married which i was too immature to handle at 22.  They still feel the same way and my dad still spouts out the n word.  Think long and hard whether you can be with a man like that and then realize how your children will be brought up to hate others based on ethnicity and not on their own character.

minnetar



damia -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 9:08:47 PM)

i have left him, but told him if he can change, i will return. And that is that. i will not tolerate racism any longer, and i will not submit to a Neo-Nazi, period.



chiaThePet -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 9:19:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: damia

i have left him, but told him if he can change, i will return. And that is that. i will not tolerate racism any longer, and i will not submit to a Neo-Nazi, period.


Dear damia,

A sad end to a sad story, but i've heard they're still chopping down trees
to make pages for new stories, perhaps happier stories, perhaps a better
story for yourself. When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who
you are. Hugs and good wishes.

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet)



GarnetMoon -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 9:27:49 PM)

Just a quick thought: Just because the would-be father of your children is racist doesn't mean that they will be. In the nature vs. nurture debate, the "nurture" part actually comes from association with one's peers. One convention (the argument is ongoing) is 50% nature, 40 to 50% nurture from one's social environment, and up to 10% nurture from one's parents.

However, it is inevitable that your husband will try to make that 10% count. Given the amount of trouble that others say you've been having with him, and given that you knew him for less than a year before marriage, you'd probably be better off separating before you get in too deep.

In any case, I wish you luck with your final decision.



minnetar -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 9:30:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: damia

i have left him, but told him if he can change, i will return. And that is that. i will not tolerate racism any longer, and i will not submit to a Neo-Nazi, period.


i am sorry it came down to that.  Don't be ashamed of your choice.  You stood up for something you believed in your heart.  If you need any support systems, i am here.

minnetar



NeedToUseYou -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 11:29:32 PM)

This whole thread is crazy.

The guy is supposed to be racist, and only wanting a pure german to marry his children. All the while marrying a french and something else(can't remember) woman. That sounds fucked up. So, how can he keep the blood "pure" for his children in the first place? That spells either an outright lie, or misinterpretation of his views. Because someone that firmly held the view that only germans could produce a pure bloodline, would only breed with a pure german. Unless I read the thread wrong, I'm tired and probably should just go to sleep, but I already started. LOL.

I also don't get how a person could go threw these numerous dramatic confrontations(pre-marriage problems) with the guy, in a short period of time, and still marry him.

This all spells personal issue, the guy may have problems, many of which you knew of before marriage. The solution going off of what was said, is that you shouldn't be in any relationship for some time, and shouldn't be having kids anytime soon. As it appears you have severe problems making rational decisions for yourself.

I don't know you but this is totally just a guess, you sound like one of these women that always is the victim. That doesn't mean you are the victim, most of the time, it's just a bunch of bad irrational choices leading to a foregone conclusion.

Don't mean to be mean about it, but that's how it reads.

Like I said I'm tired though, if I misread something, I apologize, wouldn't be the first time. [:D]







ICGsteve -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 11:34:05 PM)

Either she is a professional victim or she did not learn much of anything about the guy before she married him, either way it is her bad. The sympathy here  is misplaced unless there is something here I don't see.



curiousexplorer -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/11/2007 11:58:20 PM)

NeedToUseYou,
It depends on what they count as pure. If they only count the fathers bloodline then it doesn't matter what the mother is, she is just a womb. A tv show called "John Safron vs God" found a loophole in the KKK which allowed half jewish people to get in (if they wanted to) because of only one parents bloodline counting.



NeedToUseYou -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/12/2007 12:07:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: curiousexplorer

NeedToUseYou,
It depends on what they count as pure. If they only count the fathers bloodline then it doesn't matter what the mother is, she is just a womb. A tv show called "John Safron vs God" found a loophole in the KKK which allowed half jewish people to get in (if they wanted to) because of only one parents bloodline counting.


Possible I guess, but seems highly improbably, giving that it was just discussed or at least revealed in the recounting that his view on marriage in relation to kids was not identified to be male only marriage. No way of telling but that would seem to be a unique enough variance from the norm to include in the recounting if that were the case.







MstrssPassion -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/12/2007 4:47:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

quote:

ORIGINAL: curiousexplorer

NeedToUseYou,
It depends on what they count as pure. If they only count the fathers bloodline then it doesn't matter what the mother is, she is just a womb. A tv show called "John Safron vs God" found a loophole in the KKK which allowed half jewish people to get in (if they wanted to) because of only one parents bloodline counting.


Possible I guess, but seems highly improbably, giving that it was just discussed or at least revealed in the recounting that his view on marriage in relation to kids was not identified to be male only marriage. No way of telling but that would seem to be a unique enough variance from the norm to include in the recounting if that were the case.


This is exactly why I asked the OP if her husband had researched her "pedigree" to find it was of a pure bloodline... this whole thing had my sniff-o-meter pinging so my conclusion that his own account of coming from some pure noble bloodline was pure BS

It is a sad ending to a sad story but one that the OP doesn't have to relive in the future. Every experience we have in life leads us to gain more wisdom. You have found that there are limits to what you will tolerate about another human being. Take time to investigate the very core of your being & take note of the other things that you simply will not tolerate in others. At the same time, make a list of all the things that you admire about people... the things that would help you in gaining more respect. This list will grow for the rest of your life but it will give you a guideline when getting to know others.

Lastly.... don't ever hold out thinking that if you love someone enough they will change. This is more myth than fact. The only real & lasting change takes place when people change for themselves, not others. Life has proven to me that when someone "changes" for someone it is almost always temporary. Often they are so miserable they lash out at the person they were making a change for... because they see them as being the cause of their misery.

I admire you for sticking with your convictions & not supporting blind hate & intolerance. If you ever need a subtle reminder of why you decided to make this sacrifice... think about the faces of your unborn children & how you would feel if they were taught hate or spoke these hateful things with their own mouths.

Best wishes to you.  



F1refox -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/12/2007 5:10:07 PM)

Just an interesting observation.
The only people we have never been allowed to date or be approved of to have as friends are Germans.
My Fathers house was blown up during the war in The Blitz killing his Mother and Brother he was 8 at the time.He hates them.
This superior race then go and lose two wars I do not think he really has any thing to be superior about.



popeye1250 -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/12/2007 5:24:01 PM)

What's the "W.B. word for Hispanics?"



minnetar -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/12/2007 5:37:03 PM)

Popeye,
not sure if You are being sarcastic or not but Your answer is on the other side lol

minnetar



MasterDomRon -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/15/2007 12:45:43 AM)

This thread is interesting to me. I am a Black Dominate Man. I am a professional educated man and the lifestyle fits my personality and I prefer a woman who is compatible.. Now Damia, while I totally disagree with your husband and I appreciate you own intelligence and understanding of our world, I also think that this can be an opportunity for you to contribute to the growth and enlightenment of your Dom.. When we make committments, we make them knowing no one is perfect.. I could comment about his intelligence level but that is only a negative approach and progress in life if only and always made with a positive approach.. Ignorance is not symtomatic of any particular race.. it is a charteristic of the human race.. as is intelligence.. it is normal for individuals to have different opinions and even a submissive personality is entitled to her / his opinion.. and the right to disagree.. Be strong and confident about your difference and let it be known that is a source of difference between you and him...and do not support his ways along those racist lines .. rather when it comes up impose your own values and do not support (actively or inactively) racist views you dont support.. Im sure he has other qualities you appreciate, so focus on those to keep you bond and committment (unless you feel you have fear for your safety, then leave immediately) otherwise take him for better and for worse..

MasterDom



MasterDomRon -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/15/2007 12:54:42 AM)

Another thing to understand, and this is a scientific fact.. the first occurance of the human race was in Africa.. Mankind originally was born in Africa.. It was migration north and genetic adaptation to the environment that caused color differences.. Often when people base their opinion of others on race, religion, creed, color etc.. it is a sign of a deeper issue.. possibly an insecurity or fear .. If at all possible, Damia, try to communicate with him about the issue.. have serious discussion about whey he feels that way and if possible open him up to disclose the real root of his racist views. You will be able to help him grow .. consider it a responsibility you have to help you mate ... rather than throw the towel in or let the issue depress you

MasterDom



Lordandmaster -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/15/2007 4:34:36 AM)

You married this wingnut before you discovered the little detail that he happens to be a RACIST???

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ORIGINAL: damia

Part of me wants to run for the hills and never look back...i hate racist people, and i have lost a lot of respect for Him because He is racist, and there is a part of me that hates Him very much for His ignorant racism. But the rest of me says 'No, you love this man; He is your Master and your husband, and whether you agree with Him or not, you belong to Him and should tolerate it.'  But the hatred of people just because of the colour of their skin or because of their genes...that is not something i tolerate, nor is it something i ever learned was to be tolerated.



undergroundsea -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/15/2007 5:10:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: damia
To me, this is highly offensive, and i asked Him why He does not just call them all fucking idiots, like they are.


This part confuses me about the spirit of this thread.

quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion
you guys seem to have a new problem every month, first it was his uncontrollable anger, then it was organization, then it was something else now this.


This part lessens the confusion for me but leads to assumptions about the spirit behind the OP.

Cheers,

Sea



ennaozzie -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/15/2007 6:27:51 AM)

Damia
 
I can only reply with what I think, and I am sorry you had to go though loving someone so much then loosing respect of him it would break my heart.
 
Personally to take on someone as a permanent partner, one he would have to be a Dominant, two I would have had to have got to know him and respect him, or it just won’t happen.
 
I would not have the want to serve him if I had lost respect.  What ever way you go, look inside yourself you have the answer, it is hard either way, or take time out and have a real good think, and what ever choice you arrive at do it because you think it’s the right choice for you and it’s the right thing to do. 
 
Only you know the full situation as it’s hard to put everything to paper and even then none of us are there where you are.
 
Personally just from what you have said I would go, but then I am not there and I am not you.  What ever you decide even if it’s the hardest thing you have ever done you will know if it’s the right thing and have a clear conscious.
 
All the best to you
 
Beanie



tupeswitch -> RE: Racist...warning, this may be highly offensive to sensitive persons (5/15/2007 6:35:19 PM)

Hello,

I'm new to these forums but I wanted to put something out there. Talking about racism with people of your own race/background and with those who are close to you, needless to say your husband and Master, can be really, really hard. The arguments are intense, you lose your ground quickly, can't find words, etc. I would do a search for anti-racist organizations in/nearby your community. There are lots of places that run workshops where people unpack these issues and learn to educate others. At the very least they can provide literature on common expressions of racism.

You don't have to do it alone.



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