darkinshadows
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Joined: 6/2/2004 From: UK Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: SmilinFSub Sorry for not being more clear. I do not believe anyone should pee in public or ask their mate to do such an adolescent act. It is an unsanitary and unnecessary practice. Peeing in a public place - happens alot more often than just in a BDSM context, but that said, I disagree that peeing in a public place is wrong - but would agree that peeing in public would be an unconsensual act and therefore, not something I would personally do. There is a huge difference between the two. quote:
Counseling may help. That is quite harsh (IMO) and an unconsensual act. So again, I don't agree. quote:
I ineptly tried to make the point that this site promotes a group mentality when the ultimate sexual / life acts should be private. Get a couple of ideas here, share some laughs but make the act your own. There is no 'ultimate wisdom' in this non-face-2-face forum. This is a pseudo life / community and we all need to accept responsibility for our actions and make other people question what in the hell they are doing. CM is a website, period. It is words on a screen - its a discussion and a place to write down views and experiences, in fact - like a book, it informs. There is ultimate wisdom here - but only if its something you agree with- because it is something you may never of heard before. But it doesn't mean its a pseudo community, its just a different kind of one. Some people here meet - some have even married, or become couples. I don't see anything pretend or fake about that. Its a tool, just like anything else. We can use it to placate, we can use it to contest a view - but at the end of the day, its still an individuals choice. quote:
Placating eachother doesn't do any good. It isn't placating, its supporting - and if you don't support, you can challenge it. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong - its up to a persons individual morals as to whether they agree. quote:
The CM community operates under the guise of personal freedom but, we do have responsibilites to the vanilla world our kids live in. And...quite honestly our quest for personal freedoms may limit the capabilities of our nation. Without some adherence to 'norms' the USA becomes weaker. Our Middle East buddies will gladly dominate the masses of USA citizens who fight for individual freedoms more than they fight for 'the good of the Nation.' Never seen it that way. I see CM as a site that is openminded and works 'under the guise' of personal responsibility. And you are right, we do have a responsibility to the children - we have the responsibility not to shun them and others who don't 'conform' as though they are ignorant and unworthy - children know a hell of a lot more than people give them credit for, and surely an informed individual is an individual who is a person aware of their responsibilites? Think on that. What are the 'norms of society'? What have they been? What do you want to do - thrust your ideals and morals onto others? Because THAT is unconsensual. Are you saying that everyone has to follow like sheep just because its the norms and a handful of people claim it is, so it must be right? Is it right to murder? Is it right to enslave because of colour, creed? Attack because of religions not melding? Not use contraception because its 'sinful'? I don't know about you, but I don't live in the USA -why does it always have to boil down to one, single country? And to counter your 'statement' I will use your own words. Is the USA operating under the guise of fighting for freedom? I live on a PLANET - I live in a world that is beautiful with endless possiblities. This isn't a discussion about 'your buddies' and what they have the ability of doing - theres another thread you can preach on in the off topic discussions for that, and I will gladly discuss that issue with you there. quote:
If everybody is right, who's wrong? Not everyone is right - not everyone is wrong - but everyone is undeniably unique. quote:
A start may be DON'T PISS IN PUBLIC. see above quote:
Don't spend anymore than 20 minutes daily on CM. Is that a suggestion, or an order? quote:
Do yourself and your mate a favor.... Well... for a start, that is assuming that everyone is monogamous - which we know isn't the case. Maybe that could be 'Do yourself and your mate(s) a favour' quote:
be reasonable. I try - do you? Peace and Love
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