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daniL -> Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/13/2007 12:14:54 AM)

Basically, this is just about what the topic says...I considered posting this in the Ask a Master forum, but then I decided to ask my fellow females. Humilation intrigues me, but I have a female sub and I need some help brainstorming methods of humilation...it seems easier for me to conjure up humilation tactics for a malesub, but that's not what I need...[:D]




whipingherfeet -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/13/2007 7:46:38 AM)

have your slave remove her sock s and shoes befor going in doors.when visting some one off goes hert shoes and socks.that should do it




MagiksSlave -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/13/2007 4:56:52 PM)

er.. I cant speak for all females but none that I know would feel humiliated to have to take off her socks and shoes.. Id feel more comfy the humiated...

Magik's slave




MamaDomme -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/13/2007 6:15:54 PM)

unless there was a derogatory word written on her feet or toes............




whipingherfeet -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 4:56:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

er.. I cant speak for all females but none that I know would feel humiliated to have to take off her socks and shoes.. Id feel more comfy the humiated...
just think removeing your socks and shoes in front of pople that you dont know .only you master  know them.
Magik's slave




MsKatHouston -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 5:42:21 AM)

Who cares about removing your socks and shoes in front of people you don't know?  I think she may be looking for something a bit more humiliating than that.  I can't imagine anyone feeling humiliated by that. 

Why can't you incorporate some of your ideas for your male slave with your female?




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 5:49:27 AM)

Personally I only dig humiliation when both enjoy it... but here are some ideas.  I won't add any that are mostly sexual (unless you ask), although many that I think of are.
 
Humiliation is different to certain people.  Exhibitionists are not humiliated by showing their bodies, but these are generic ideas.  Some of these sound bad, as a formality I must suggest you discuss limits and rules before playing with humiliation.  Bukkake is pretty humiliating, but isn't for everyone.
 
I'm a male-Dom so some of these ideas may not appeal to you based on the differences between us. (age, tolerance, gender, experience, personal preferences)

-Letting people see her naked, guests/strangers.
-Nude photos.
-Make her pee herself in public. (Water works fine aswell, since it's the public aspect that's really at work.)
-Have her yell or draw unwanted attention to herself in public. (Not in a hazardous way, but make her call a waiter from across a busy restaurant.)
-Hose her down in the front yard during busy neighborhood hours.
-Face slapping, while making her thank you.
-Making her beg for basic needs.
-Turn her into furniture (a female makes a great ottoman, she could also lick-shine some shoes)
-Housework
-Watersports/scat/vomitting/crying (discuss first)
-Write on her. (Any derogatory term works well.  I prefer lipstick as the medium.)
-Caging
-Belittle her.  "Awwww you're cute when you're stupid!"
-Be an amazingly embarassing chauvenist in public. "Hush! Men are talking!" (it occured to me after I got this far that the OP is a Domme, sorry =P)
-Leashes (I prefer the extendable dog leashes so you can control her distance)
-Not allow beautification. (To what extent it humiliates depends on her "need" to be pretty)
-No walking, crawling only.
-Have her offer her body.  (I know I said I wouldn't go into sexual things, but I find making someone say the words even when both parties agree is an empty offer still has a ring to it.)
-Have her wear socially unacceptable clothing (School-girl on an adult, kid's clothing, etc.)
-Have her drink from bowls in restaurants and at home. (My Pet came up with that one, I love it.  Put the bowl on the floor or your lap, perhaps)
-Sleep on the floor, at the foot of the bed, in a pet bed, in a cage, outside while leashed to a pole. (Think that outside one through to ensure safety)
-Make her watch you play with others. (Not touching or participating)
-Make her lick your scene clean. (Try not to make her injest too much lube, please.)
-Dehumanization. (Bondage masks are great. "I'm done with your mouth." ::zip mouth shut:: Also try zentai suits)
-Proxy commands. (Make her lower than the male sub by ordering him to order her around)
-Cut her hair. (A stripe of missing hair can be embarassing... just make sure it doesn't interfere with non-BDSM life issues.  A power-executive could lose a job or big account over that.)
-Carrying things. (Spend a day shopping as she carries all your bags.  You could even be spending her money on things for you, should that be a route you wanted)
-Bestiality. (Definitely discuss first.)
-Making her admit her BDSM lifestyle. (Although I would steer clear of it, it mixes all different bad juju, if she's ashamed of it, it would be greatly humiliating)
-Online slut. (I know I said I'd keep the post fairly clean, but online is different.)
-Have her wear cum-stained clothes. (Trampy and easy, or at least it appears so.)
-Overall embarassment. (Make her save seats in crowded movies, make her wait in lines for you and apologize to others when you step ahead of her. etc.)
-Animal-like petting. (Imagine sitting in a chair with one hand on the dog's head, one hand on the sub's head. Technically kinda-sorta-almost bestiality.)
-Mass disapproval. (Depending on religious beliefs, have her burp or yawn loudly in church.  Just as an example... in my opinion that would affect other people's enjoyment of church too much.)
-Make her break her things. (No family heirlooms, please.)
-Shave her eyebrows. (Similar to cutting her hair, but this has an amazing affect on the sub's ability to look strangers in the eye.  Again, the same warning applies.)
-Dunk-tank (An over-the-top example, as few people own dunk tanks and the faire usually has it's own workers.  Interesting fantasy, though.)
-Have her chauffeur. (Many Dommes do the driving though, which is understandable.)
-Favor the sub-male. (She gets celery, he gets cookies.)
-Mental anguish. (In my experience weight can be a very humiliating subject.  HOWEVER there is substantial evidence that this sort of bullying can cause eating disorders.)
-Simulated sex acts. (Have her in vulnerable and comprimising positions.)
-Objectification. (Use her hair like a rag, especially fun in the shower.)
-Name calling. (Beware of 'learned helplessness.' A theory that suggests if you call someone stupid enough they will believe it and begin to act stupid.
-Forced failing. (Set up tasks she cannot complete.  Mental puzzles she cannot accomplish, table-puzzles with missing pieces, keys to locks that are on shelves too high for her, tasks she isn't familiar with [computer repair, setting the vcr clock])
-Have her read her journal. (If she keeps some private account of thoughts, the larger the audience, the more powerful the effect.)
-Strap-on play. (Sucking a rubber cock and remind her she failed to please you physically... If she's witty that might just make you look dumb.)
-Take away gratification. (Your sub seeks to please you. Never show pride in her and she'll feel like a failure.  The ultimate humiliation is to order her to play with someone else, as she can no longer please you. After one experience with this I learned NEVER to do it again... but my limits are not yours.)
-Make her wait outside during a long enjoyable munch. (Leashed to a parking meter is a nice touch, just keep an eye on her, lots of psycho's out there.)
-Ignore her.
-Jealousy. (Talk about getting another female sub, a better one.  In my experience being jealous and being humiliated are seperate, but they could be linked.)

I'll think of some more, I'm sure =D

Edit: Added some ideas.




Calandra -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 10:33:43 AM)

Remind Me to never piss this man off... ~walking away mumbling~ LOL




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 10:43:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

Personally I only dig humiliation when both enjoy it... but here are some ideas.  I won't add any that are mostly sexual (unless you ask), although many that I think of are.
 
Humiliation is different to certain people.  Exhibitionists are not humiliated by showing their bodies, but these are generic ideas.  Some of these sound bad, as a formality I must suggest you discuss limits and rules before playing with humiliation.  Bukkake is pretty humiliating, but isn't for everyone.
 
I'm a male-Dom so some of these ideas may not appeal to you based on the differences between us. (age, tolerance, gender, experience, personal preferences)

-Letting people see her naked, guests/strangers.
-Nude photos.
-Make her pee herself in public. (Water works fine aswell, since it's the public aspect that's really at work.)
-Have her yell or draw unwanted attention to herself in public. (Not in a hazardous way, but make her call a waiter from across a busy restaurant.)
-Hose her down in the front yard during busy neighborhood hours.
-Face slapping, while making her thank you.
-Making her beg for basic needs.
-Turn her into furniture (a female makes a great ottoman, she could also lick-shine some shoes)
-Housework
-Watersports/scat/vomitting/crying (discuss first)
-Write on her. (Any derogatory term works well.  I prefer lipstick as the medium.)
-Caging
-Belittle her.  "Awwww you're cute when you're stupid!"
-Be an amazingly embarassing chauvenist in public. "Hush! Men are talking!" (it occured to me after I got this far that the OP is a Domme, sorry =P)
-Leashes (I prefer the extendable dog leashes so you can control her distance)
-Not allow beautification. (To what extent it humiliates depends on her "need" to be pretty)
-No walking, crawling only.
-Have her offer her body.  (I know I said I wouldn't go into sexual things, but I find making someone say the words even when both parties agree is an empty offer still has a ring to it.)
-Have her wear socially unacceptable clothing (School-girl on an adult, kid's clothing, etc.)
-Have her drink from bowls in restaurants and at home. (My Pet came up with that one, I love it.  Put the bowl on the floor or your lap, perhaps)
-Sleep on the floor, at the foot of the bed, in a pet bed, in a cage, outside while leashed to a pole. (Think that outside one through to ensure safety)
-Make her watch you play with others. (Not touching or participating)
-Make her lick your scene clean. (Try not to make her injest too much lube, please.)
-Dehumanization. (Bondage masks are great. "I'm done with your mouth." ::zip mouth shut:: Also try zentai suits)
-Proxy commands. (Make her lower than the male sub by ordering him to order her around)
-Cut her hair. (A stripe of missing hair can be embarassing... just make sure it doesn't interfere with non-BDSM life issues.  A power-executive could lose a job or big account over that.)
-Carrying things. (Spend a day shopping as she carries all your bags.  You could even be spending her money on things for you, should that be a route you wanted)
-Bestiality. (Definitely discuss first.)
-Making her admit her BDSM lifestyle. (Although I would steer clear of it, it mixes all different bad juju, if she's ashamed of it, it would be greatly humiliating)
-Online slut. (I know I said I'd keep the post fairly clean, but online is different.)
-Have her wear cum-stained clothes. (Trampy and easy, or at least it appears so.)
-Overall embarassment. (Make her save seats in crowded movies, make her wait in lines for you and apologize to others when you step ahead of her. etc.)
-Animal-like petting. (Imagine sitting in a chair with one hand on the dog's head, one hand on the sub's head. Technically kinda-sorta-almost bestiality.)
-Mass disapproval. (Depending on religious beliefs, have her burp or yawn loudly in church.  Just as an example... in my opinion that would affect other people's enjoyment of church too much.)
-Make her break her things. (No family heirlooms, please.)
-Shave her eyebrows. (Similar to cutting her hair, but this has an amazing affect on the sub's ability to look strangers in the eye.  Again, the same warning applies.)
-Dunk-tank (An over-the-top example, as few people own dunk tanks and the faire usually has it's own workers.  Interesting fantasy, though.)
-Have her chauffeur. (Many Dommes do the driving though, which is understandable.)
-Favor the sub-male. (She gets celery, he gets cookies.)
-Mental anguish. (In my experience weight can be a very humiliating subject.  HOWEVER there is substantial evidence that this sort of bullying can cause eating disorders.)
-Simulated sex acts. (Have her in vulnerable and comprimising positions.)
-Objectification. (Use her hair like a rag, especially fun in the shower.)
-Name calling. (Beware of 'learned helplessness.' A theory that suggests if you call someone stupid enough they will believe it and begin to act stupid.
-Forced failing. (Set up tasks she cannot complete.  Mental puzzles she cannot accomplish, table-puzzles with missing pieces, keys to locks that are on shelves too high for her, tasks she isn't familiar with [computer repair, setting the vcr clock])
-Have her read her journal. (If she keeps some private account of thoughts, the larger the audience, the more powerful the effect.)
-Strap-on play. (Sucking a rubber cock and remind her she failed to please you physically... If she's witty that might just make you look dumb.)
-Take away gratification. (Your sub seeks to please you. Never show pride in her and she'll feel like a failure.  The ultimate humiliation is to order her to play with someone else, as she can no longer please you. After one experience with this I learned NEVER to do it again... but my limits are not yours.)
-Make her wait outside during a long enjoyable munch. (Leashed to a parking meter is a nice touch, just keep an eye on her, lots of psycho's out there.)
-Ignore her.
-Jealousy. (Talk about getting another female sub, a better one.  In my experience being jealous and being humiliated are seperate, but they could be linked.)

I'll think of some more, I'm sure =D

Edit: Added some ideas.

Holy Smokes!!....some of this kinda turned me on ( don't think i'll be telling my Master about any of it just yet though...LOL)




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 11:11:05 AM)

I'm flattered.  I'm actually a very nice person, usually.  I just have a natural attunement to what people want and don't want to do.  For better or worse, I would only use these methods if both parties got some pleasure from it.
 
I like to think I kept my suggestions tasteful and usable in both kink and lifestyle scenes.




MistressMonet2u -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 11:33:15 AM)

what about simple things that would humiliate most people...
-toilet tissues coming up and out or hanging out of her clothes
-a large red stain in the appropriate place on pants or skirt
-carrying around a sanitary napkin or tampon in her hand all day
-having to ask a sales person something then repeating it back to them as if it were original thought
-pouring her drinks into a sippy cup whenever you're out
-mist her with urine and take her to the grocery store or dinner or an outside event when its warm out
-have her cough uncontrollably at dinner until you allow her to stop
-make her wear mismatched shoes
-have her unbutton her blouse somewhere in the middle and do a little shopping
-she could put on Tammy Faye Baker makeup (just really cake it on heavy)
-she could talk through clinched teeth for a day

I've done most of these and oh baby what fun we had!!!! Enjoy!

-=M=-





daniL -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/15/2007 3:54:20 PM)

Thank you guys, these were really helpful, and anymore ideas that you guys can share would be great!




ChainedAngel -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/16/2007 12:29:30 AM)

all i can say is...[sm=whoa.gif]




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/16/2007 1:11:26 AM)

See what happens when Doms and Dommes get together without subs?  It's like a teacher work day.  Plenty of work and tortuous ideas for the students.
 
In relationships with sex, things can get much darker.  sometimes I feel bad for beign able to think up such horrible smut.  Then I publish it and feel better.




MsKatHouston -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/16/2007 6:19:02 AM)

Sometimes I think you are bad for coming up with such horrible smut.  Then I read it, read it again, check the batteries and feel better. ;)

I enjoy using my remote vibe on a woman under clothes.  That's always fun.  I can also take almost any situation and make someone squirm.  The better you know the person, the more you will know what buttons to push and where would be too far.




Copulo -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/16/2007 9:35:11 AM)

HeavansKeeper lol, I can't imagine what your going to be like at 40!!!

I mean you could take her into a mans room, tie in a kneeling position, stick a funnel down her throat and a notice on her chest saying ‘piss here’ but the chances are she may find that a tad too much.

The thing is with ‘humiliation’ its such a broad avenue with so many grey areas. Get it wrong and it could well lose you your subs head and in turn the relationship but get it right and she is going to love you forever.
About a year ago a friend of mine found himself a new sub. He was excited about the fact that she had mentioned she wanted to be humiliated. One session on and it was all over. I asked him what he had done and he said that he had stripped her and told her that her body was revolting. Her tits were too small and her ass too big!!!! Most females hate this kind of humiliation and a lot of guys seem to think that this is what humiliation is.
Humiliation works best when done in subtle forms. Build from there.





HeavansKeeper -> RE: Humilation tactics used by Mistresses with Femsub (5/16/2007 5:02:10 PM)

As a gentleman I felt compelled to keep more... extreme thoughts in the vault.  I've had worse... Much worse... But I would venture most of the reader's here wouldn't want that...
 
I completely agree with you, though.  It's not uncommon for sub's to want some humiliation.  My Pet thought it was insanely erotic to go find her in the mall while she was with friends, collar and leash her, and excuse her from her friends because she didn't ask permission to go to the mall.  It reminded me of an overprotective father busting into a movie theatre to get his 16 year old daughter from a date.
 
I've had experience with some people who wanted far more hardcore things, but that certainly doesn't make them any better.  A warning though, no amount of apology excuses the fact that a Dom has gone over the line.  Discuss everything thoroughly (which is erotic in itself.)




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