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subinmi -> Trust test. (5/13/2007 7:01:19 PM)
At a dinner i attended today i heard a Dom talk about a trust test he gave a prospective slave. They were in a store and he gave her an item and told her to walk out the door with it. The prospective slave refused saying she would be arrested. He said she failed the test. i'm a newbie and believe i may be more slave than sub but i would never commit myself to someone who asked me to do something illegal. Whether or not he would have stopped her at the door is immaterial. Does this kind of "test" happen often? Was it a bad test or just a bad Dom?

SirMIkeSD -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 7:20:10 PM)
In the rules that I have for my boy (he's a sub), it says right in there that that he will obey unless it's dangerous, life threatening or violates laws. Not that I would ask him to do anything that would be in the first place. Mike

velvetears -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 7:55:42 PM)
If he considers that a test of her commitment it's lacking in my opinion. What did he actually find out? She has a brain and will use it when he tells her to do something that goes against her morals? For that "test" to work he had to know that she knew it was a test and she had to play along, knowing all along, he was going to make her stop. That is playing a game if you ask me - there is no honesty in that. Her passing the test under those condition would have been meaningless.

Trampler -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 8:03:53 PM)
to me, that is a pretty dumb game, not to mention risky in a bad way

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 8:18:31 PM)
Gotta love doms on a power trip. Setting up ridiculous false tests to prove nothing and end the possibility of a good relationship- yeah brilliant. False tests of any sort of ridiculous, the kind that can actually cause someone to deal with unnecessary stress and other life issues even more so. What about a test in which he told her to tell an ex she might have given them AIDS? I have done and certainly would do illegal things in my life- that's irrelevant to the situation IMO. Time and being fulfilled together through what time and life brings is the only test that will show you whether your relationship is working. Anything else is just someone trying to be a dork.

hawkwolf7 -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 8:21:56 PM)
Ummm. I really think the whole thing is backwards here. The trust of the submissive or slave is EARNED by the Dominant or Master. In that context, testing their trust simply makes no sense. Unless the Dom was testing how good a job he had done earning her trust??? Even there, his test violated her trust, so it was guaranteed to fail. See what I mean about it being backward? HW

AquaticSub -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 8:22:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subinmi At a dinner i attended today i heard a Dom talk about a trust test he gave a prospective slave. They were in a store and he gave her an item and told her to walk out the door with it. The prospective slave refused saying she would be arrested. He said she failed the test. i'm a newbie and believe i may be more slave than sub but i would never commit myself to someone who asked me to do something illegal. Whether or not he would have stopped her at the door is immaterial. Does this kind of "test" happen often? Was it a bad test or just a bad Dom? I'd view that as the dominant failing.

maybemaybenot -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 8:27:48 PM)
I don't take well to that typoe of test. I would have been pretty much have been done with him right then and there. I have a friend who tells a story that one of here first Dominants gave her a test, that she flunked and was dismissed immmediately for. One of her hard limits was water sports/excrement. One day they were at home and he went into the bathroom,came out and said I left something on the back of the toilet for you, bring it to me. She finds a glass of " urine" and brings it, he tells her to drink it and she refused. After a bit of conjoling on his part and her continued refussal, he told her she had trust issues and he could not tolerate that. Apparently he pre planned and it was a glass of warm flat beer. IMO, I do not need tests to prove my submission. In the course of a growing, ongoing relationship there are real and valuable tests quite often along the way. I beleive that the tests come thru the growth of the relationship, not thru some dreamt up arbitray test, just to see if I will say yes. mbmbn

robertolapiedra -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 8:33:34 PM)
Hello subnimi. I know that test, it's a stupidity test. The sub passed, demonstrating she knew about the safe - sane - consensual principals and applied them in good judgement. The dom failed the test not for inciting someone to do criminal activities (Illegal) but for simply 'talking' about it after the fact. RL

SimplyMichael -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 10:16:43 PM)
I think it is a perfect test, anyone willing to do it isn't worth having and anyone asking it isn't worth trusting.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 10:43:57 PM)
All testing does is prove that the person beeing tested cant really trust the person that feels the need to test them... If Master ever felt the need to test me then well i would know our reltionship wasnt working and would end it not only because if he doesnt feel he can trust me by now without testing then something is wrong but because testing is immeture mean and hurtfull. Magik's slave

earthycouple -> RE: Trust test. (5/13/2007 11:18:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I think it is a perfect test, anyone willing to do it isn't worth having and anyone asking it isn't worth trusting. Ditto

aldompdx -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 12:32:28 AM)
Trust tests are given by those who feel insecure, and lack the ability to trust their own perceptions about a person. Who wants a dominant or master that violates limits even before you consent to surrender? Trust is more often misplaced than it is breached. Act upon confidence gained through experience. >anyone willing to do it isn't worth having and anyone asking it isn't worth trusting. Agreed.

ownedkitten -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 3:12:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I think it is a perfect test, anyone willing to do it isn't worth having and anyone asking it isn't worth trusting. Greetings Master Michael, I would agree wholeheartedly with your statement - well said!

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 3:26:23 AM)
"Prospective slave" meaning "We've built el-zilcho trust." It's a worthless test. The occupational workshop ropes course "You fall back, I catch you" deal is more effective. I suppose after a few months or years of trust, a Dom should be able to look his or her Pet in the eye and say "Take this out of the store. Trust me, nothing will happen." That's a more realistic situation for such an outrageous test.

Focus50 -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 3:47:12 AM)
The slave passed the "test" with flying colours, as would've you! The monumental loser/failure (at several levels) was the "dom".... Focus.

KatyLied -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 4:42:09 AM)
That sounds like a test from a dom who is insecure in his domiliness and perhaps is challenged by a sub who isn't a robot.

LeatherBentOne -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 4:48:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 The slave passed the "test" with flying colours, as would've you! The monumental loser/failure (at several levels) was the "dom".... Focus. Indeed. The Dominant failed the test.

Lashra -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 5:00:24 AM)
That Dom at the table you heard speaking was not a Dom, he was a dumbass there is a big difference. Responsible Dominants do not put their subs/slaves in harms way and having them shop lift just for his amusement is putting them in harms way. People like him need to have a few jolts of electricity to shock them back into reality. Listen to your gut, if it tells you something is wrong don't do it because some dumbass tells you too. ~Lashra

MstrssPassion -> RE: Trust test. (5/14/2007 5:09:14 AM)
I agree with everyone else What a dumbass... I hope someone at the table served his a second helping of shut the frack up. If not.... I'd take a deep long look at everyone else who sat at that table & how they responded... because this dumb-ass just revealed a great deal about their character while he confirmed his own.

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