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slaveluci -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 12:26:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PrincessEllie
I'm a big grammar fan.
And i'm a big spelling fan[:)]
I'll capitolize (capitalize) Sub if it's in the begenning (beginning) of a sentance (sentence) and despite my submissive nature I always capitolize (capitalize) 'I'. I stick with real grammar first above BDSM abbreviations. I do use the term Dom/mes when I'm speaking to a large group and I do write D/s with a little s. That's about it though. 
Sorry...nothing personal....just couldn't help myself what with all this talk about grammar and spelling going on.....slave luci



MadRabbit -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 12:30:51 PM)

I'm sure it makes it a lot easier to remember who is the Dom and who is the sub when cybering.



slaveluci -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 12:36:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

In addition to what the other's have said, I always feel that a dominant who insists on slashy speak is highly insecure and I would immediately pass such a one on by.
i use "slashy speak" because i choose to, not because Master is highly insecure.  Wow, everything is so over analyzed.  There are many reasons to pass a potential dom by but because he likes that way of typing?  Probably not one i would use.  Master never indicated one way or another, when i began participating in these forums, how i should type.  i saw the lower/upper cases being used and thought it was kind of nice so i use it.  No big meanings behind it at all.  As someone else suggested, i don't think it's nearly as aggravating as reading a post where every other word is misspelled[;)].....slave luci



slaveluci -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 12:40:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
I'm sure it makes it a lot easier to remember who is the Dom and who is the sub when cybering
It sure does.  i know i wouldn't be able to remember which one of U/us is "Master" if not for that whole lower and upper case thing[8D]......slave luci



kittinSol -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 12:43:35 PM)

I think it's pathetic, I think it sucks, I think this whole 'protocole' thing is childish.

There, you asked for it :-)



HeavansKeeper -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 1:05:29 PM)

All is forgiven.  I was never mad at you... just confused by you.



MagiksSlave -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 1:35:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cjenny

Aw I know you're dyslexic hon. I speak of those that do it out of not caring about their appearance (which onscreen = text for me.). I said in my post that I can read 'dyslexia', my ex is terribly dyslexic so I learned how to read it lol.


:) OK thanks.. i guess Im insecure about it because people poke fun at something that is really hard for me to help.. for the most part I avoid typos but I spell phoenitcally, and I know in the english language that means i spell a lot wrong but I would hope most understand what Im trying to say.

Also  because of the dyslexia it makes that I/i writeing a little hard to follow, as well as third person speach, anything that varries from the norm takes much longer for me to decode and I know that I cant be the only one that has the problem.

I often feeling people useing that kind of typeing have little regard for those of us that trying to understand what they are trying to get across. Who cares you can tell if the person is Dom or sub by the way they right if you cant even read it well enough to understand the message they are trying to get across. I feel it kind of defeats the perpose... Like oh well I know that person is a sub, i cant tell what the heck they are trying to say because my eyes are getting lost in a sea of I/i but I know they are a sub!!
ok rant over


Magik's slave



kittinSol -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 1:50:06 PM)

Darling Slave, I did my best to understand you, but I didn't go past the first two lines. You're obviously terribly proud of your American heritage, but you have a big bad problem at expressing yourself.

This would be fine by me were you not the sort of person who sharks up on those that don't speak 'proper' English.

I think you are a hypocrite. 



earthycouple -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 1:50:25 PM)

Hate it, think it's stupid online game playing.  I am a dominant and I have no problem saying that my slave is Robert.  His name is proper and should be capitalized. 

I think this started because some persons online felt they needed to assert some fake authority over a group of submissives because the person was power tripping and needed to find a way to preen.  "Look at me, I'm a Master and that slave addresses himself as dave because I said so." BAH.

I remember back in the early 90s the chat system (which name now escapes me) where our avatars showed in the room and there was music and you could float from room to room so easily.....why did that chat venue die out?...and those who were submissive moved their avatars to the bottom of the page and the dominants were at the top.  I always thought that was stupid too. 

I admit, I occasionally capitalize dominant, mistress and master.  I never do the W/we thing and I don't make a habit of not capitalizing the name of a submissive.



OsideGirl -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 2:00:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple



I think this started because some persons online felt they needed to assert some fake authority over a group of submissives because the person was power tripping and needed to find a way to preen.  "Look at me, I'm a Master and that slave addresses himself as dave because I said so." BAH.
Yup, started in some ICQ chatroom and has permeated the online scene.

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I don't make a habit of not capitalizing the name of a submissive.
This is absolutely one of my pet peeves. Just because I'm a submissive means that I don't deserve to be addressed as a human? <arghh> I consider it to be rude to not capatilize anybody's name. As far as making it easier to figure out who is who in a chatroom.......I would suggest reading profiles, as they will give you far more information than submissive with a pulse.



gypsygrl -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 2:08:21 PM)

I like protocols and structure.  When I first started with this stuff, I explored with a Master who had me use idiosyncratic grammar when corresponding with him.  I kind of agreed with his theory behind it (it kept me in a specific mind space and since we only saw each other every couple weeks or so, using a writing protocol made sense.) but practically, it was too difficult.  The biggest problem was that at the time I was doing  alot of writing for school, and switching back and forth between two grammar systems was difficult and I made more mistakes in my academic writing than necessary. 

I still capitalize some things and never capitalize my name(s) unless I'm doing something professional.  I also have a name I only use when corresponding with one person which is really cool.  I do the D/s thing and tend to capitalize Domiant (unless I'm using it as an adjective) and Master and use lowercase for the s- side.  



minnetar -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 2:09:23 PM)

i basically do not do the slash thing unless the profile is for both the Master and sub.  i do believe in the capitalization between Doms, Dommes, subs and slaves.  i do not care as to whether others do it.  i find it more to be a case of manners on my part is all.

minnetar



astarri -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 3:57:08 PM)

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i do not care as to whether others do it. i find it more to be a case of manners on my part is all.


I can appreciate the sentiment behind it but, despite not capping pronouns, I still believe myself to have good manners.



SunNMoon -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 4:27:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

Also  because of the dyslexia it makes that I/i writeing a little hard to follow, as well as third person speach, anything that varries from the norm takes much longer for me to decode and I know that I cant be the only one that has the problem.

I often feeling people useing that kind of typeing have little regard for those of us that trying to understand what they are trying to get across. Who cares you can tell if the person is Dom or sub by the way they right if you cant even read it well enough to understand the message they are trying to get across. I feel it kind of defeats the perpose... Like oh well I know that person is a sub, i cant tell what the heck they are trying to say because my eyes are getting lost in a sea of I/i but I know they are a sub!!
ok rant over


Magik's slave


I cut out part of  Magik's Slave's post.

I have to agree it's hard to read if you have a learning disability. (Yes, that is my problem and not yours but for my understanding of what you’re trying to say is effected.)




Missokyst -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 4:32:19 PM)

I hate the slashy speak thing and would not do it.  Nor would I deliberately cap or uncap someones name out of some need of someone else to feel important (or less so).  It's just silly IMO.  But I think I have this bias because I would only have a real time partner, not one who needed to assert some imaginary control online.
It just seems like a game to me.  I don't need that.
I DO however love it when someone I am chatting with starts it up.  It let's me know where their head is, and where they began.  It helps me determine if I really want to meet them.
Kyst



adoracat -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 4:36:34 PM)

the last 2 fingers of my right hand are numb due to a broken wrist not being set properly.  so i have issues with capitalization anyway, because i cant always tell touch typing if i've actually hit the shift key or not.  so...its been a bit of an bugaboo to Sir and to me.

he would prefer me capitalizing all references to him.  he understands when i dont.  i refer to him as Sir and call him Daddy...but me i write my name in all small letters cause i like it that way.

kitten, who knows its not so much how you type it, as whats in your heart when you do.



AquaticSub -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 5:27:08 PM)

~Fast Reply~

Valyraen says I have to submit to the English language.



Valyraen -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 5:37:51 PM)

*To Aqua* Damn straight, Kitten!

I was an anal-retentive grammar Nazi long before I became a dominant. In fact, my first real exposure to BDSM came in the middle of my senior year in college, studying for a BA in English. In addition to that, I've been an online roleplayer (not the cybering kind, thank you) for approximately a decade now, so it's been a particular point of mine to use correct grammar and capitalization.

More specifically, I don't capitalize "dominant" or "submissive", only capitalize "master" when referring to someone's title, capitalize BDSM because it's an acronym, and leave d/s lowercase (not quite sure as to the why of that particular example; just looks funny to me in caps). As you've likely noticed by now, I don't refer to myself in Godhead (the capitalization of words referring to oneself, such as "me", "my", and "mine"), because I feel that particular grammatical construction belongs to entities beyond the ken of mortals - i.e., I only refer to God in caps.

While I don't have a problem with people who communicate in slash-speak, or too terribly much difficulty understanding their intent, I burst into a fit of giggles every time that I read a question posed to the community in stereotypical BDSM-speak.



naivetee -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 5:48:54 PM)

So that is what all the slashes are about!  : P Many a night have I spent pondering the meaning of this special language. It seems to only serve to confuse!  I would have to agree with Val and Aqua....as I'm a slave to correct grammar, or at least attempt to be. :P Thank you for your time. :)
~naivetee  



Braddock -> RE: G/grammar (5/15/2007 6:39:51 PM)

*shrugs* 

I got started in BDSM chats back when AOL was charging by the hour (God, what was that place, Bianca's?).  Caps and lower-case was big then for D/s chat.  Back in the day it was a nice, easy way to get across who was into the scene and who was unfamiliar, and it helped give people something other than words to illustrate a shift between a BDSM community room and an IRC chat room to flirt with "teenagers."

Wherever I go I try to speak in the language of the land, though, and it seems to be out of vogue now.

S'okay - it's not ingrained in me.  When I typed *shrugs* above I could have typed /shrugs or ::shrugs:: or any number of variations (once again started mostly on IRC chat, commonly with /me shrugs).  It's all a matter of personal taste - and to me some attempt at spelling and coherence is much more important in a chat or a post than letter capitalization.

Still, if you're in somebody else's chatroom or board, then you do whatever they'd prefer you do.  If you're talking to someone, you try to fit in with how they speak.

It's like having a scene at somebody's house - if they like to be called Raven when they're doing their thing and you know them as Steve, you need to remember to say, "Raven, the pizza's here, put down the crop and get your ass down here" when you knock on the door and interrupt the screaming. 

That's all.

~B



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