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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/17/2007 5:45:12 PM   
justLady


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ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

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ORIGINAL: Katehedinosm

God I feel sorry for you Americans if the first thing you have to do before any action that is a bit different is will it get me killed or beaten up?  In England the worst you would get would be laughed at and called a fagot. Land of the free................ I think not.


Guess you don't attend many football (soccer) matches there at home then?

That carnage is usually a lot of fun to watch though.

Violence isn't limited to American shores.   



And how many people WERE killed attending soccer matches in the UK last year (May 07 - May 06)?

How many were killed through gun violence?

As compared to the US population attendence of football games as a percentage of the population and then again via gun crime?

If you want to make the point that violence doesn't only occur in the UK, fair enough.

If you're trying to make equivalent comparisons about premature end of life via violence in the UK vs US, sheesh, good luck.

Having lived in London for five years as an active member of alternative groups, I feel confident in supporting the Lady's suggestion that a t-shirt wearer of the type described in the OP might be giggled at, but a result of murderous action or intent by the public would be for all practical considerations, ridicuously unlikely.

Still don't believe it's a great idea as am not a fan of public humiliation in any form, but to each their own.

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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/17/2007 9:44:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bella1965

No offense folks, but I would put the onus of responsibility on the individuals that answer to this public stunt. Aren't they adult enough to be responsible for their own actions? To contemplate the ramifications to their own health if they place themselves in what could be potentially dangerous? Since this domina doesn't own any of these men, how does she assume responsibility for what occurs to them?



You've gotten to the meat of the point that people have been alluding to but not entirely addressed!  The OP is making money from selling the T-shirts and thus does have a vested interest in promoting their wear, whether responsibly or not.  She doesn't "own" the the men who are purchasing her T-shirts and has no way of knowing if those who purchase them are adult enough to use them responsibly or not.  Yet, in this thread, she appears to be encouraging men to purchase them and wear them in situations that might put them at risk. 
 
So the question appears to become something along the lines of...  while taking their money for the T-shirts, is she selling them as a product to wear, or is she selling the concept of being dominated by a professional who also encourages submissive clients to wear the supplied T-shirts in situations that other dominants on this forum would not deem appropriate or safe for their submissives to be in?? 
 
As the OP is in a position of being in the public eye and what some would possibly refer to as having influence in the community, the question then revolves around what kind of responsibility does she have for her actions, particularly if she were to assume to some degree the role of individually acting as the Domina of each man she sold a T-shirt to.  Is she just selling a garment, or is she selling a combined service and product instead?  It might help in making an informed decision to know that the sale of the T-shirt is intended to support the web site she uses to promote herself and her female supremacist views on this lifestyle.
 
I'm not trying to answer the above questions for anyone, only to focus what seems to me to be the issues at hand regarding the OP's responsibility to the submissives who would purchase and wear her T-shirts in the places she suggests.
 
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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/17/2007 10:18:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

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ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

I also think sometimes things are taken too seriously on here.




Unrepentant, I have to say I find that just a wee bit odd seeing as you were the first person to (rightly) recognize the possibility of violence (and you are in the UK, right?). 

Not trying to give you a hard time.  Just a bit surprised.   

Have fun. 


No, I just live in the real world! We are very open about sexuality in the Uk and europe. Violence is everywhere, just in the US you see so many complain of the do gooders stopping fun, in so many ways on tolerence and sexuality you are about 20 years behind unfortunately.

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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/17/2007 10:45:20 PM   
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I do not know Dianna Vesta personally.  I have communicated with her on here and other places many times.  My first asumption about her is she would be a safe and caring individual about her subs.  Yes, this thread comes off as anything but that.  But my opinion is to give her the benifit of the doubt.  The written word often conveys things that are not exactly as they seem. She also stated it was a tongue in cheek comment.  I say give her a break and believe her.  I have looked into her "reputation" and find the idea she would be uncaring to not be in line with what I know about her.  Thus I must conclude she just did a poor job of communicating in this thread.

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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/18/2007 2:51:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: justLady

And how many people WERE killed attending soccer matches in the UK last year (May 07 - May 06)?

How many were killed through gun violence?

As compared to the US population attendence of football games as a percentage of the population and then again via gun crime?

If you want to make the point that violence doesn't only occur in the UK, fair enough.

If you're trying to make equivalent comparisons about premature end of life via violence in the UK vs US, sheesh, good luck.

Having lived in London for five years as an active member of alternative groups, I feel confident in supporting the Lady's suggestion that a t-shirt wearer of the type described in the OP might be giggled at, but a result of murderous action or intent by the public would be for all practical considerations, ridicuously unlikely.

Still don't believe it's a great idea as am not a fan of public humiliation in any form, but to each their own.



Violence is violence and occurs everywhere. 

That's the only point I was trying to make.

And the only one I need to make. 


Edited because I'm a shitty speller. 

< Message edited by joyinslavery -- 5/18/2007 2:57:02 PM >


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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/18/2007 3:08:43 PM   
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Just for the record, as someone who was born and raised in London. There certainly are bars in London that you would be unwise to go in dressed in such a tee shirt. Drunks are drunks world wide, and often pick on minorities to look big infront of their mates.

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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/18/2007 3:17:53 PM   
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I think this thread is starting to kill My fantasy of My (future) boy wearing a "Property of Mistress" t-shirt while he's out in public with Me.  What a shame.  I've always enjoyed that particular fantasy.

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RE: Club Cock Sucker Report - 5/18/2007 3:20:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think this thread is starting to kill My fantasy of My (future) boy wearing a "Property of Mistress" t-shirt while he's out in public with Me.  What a shame.  I've always enjoyed that particular fantasy.


Do not worry, that is ok, its asking one to wear the I want to suck cock in a red neck bar thats the killer, lol

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