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Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 7:04:16 AM   
stella40


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Status: offline 		What to you is the most potent symbol of female domination?

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 7:58:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		shouldn't this question be address in the Mistress section?  merely curious as to why post it here unless you're addressing it male submissives


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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 8:10:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Uuuuh...Women? I mean, maybe I'm not thinking deeply enough here, but that's the first thing that springs to mind.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 12:16:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stella40

What to you is the most potent symbol of female domination?


My opinion prolly doesn't count here cuz I'm a dom, but personally I don't feel that there are any shortcuts.  You can certainly create a behavioral association in any submissive with a particular object (eg, the whip) as a symbol, but a lot of times submissives who are really bottoms come with their own symbols that they have fetishized.  And heaven help you if you're a femdom but you don't enjoy wearing high heels, and that's the "symbol" they've decided for themselves actually means female domination.  Yeah, it's a tool you can use.....but you're also stuck with that tool whether you personally like it or not, if it's that deeply ingrained as a symbol in someone's mind.  If you didn't pick the symbol, that can be annoying and troublesome.

Spare me from symbols.  Domination is not about objects, it's about a power exchange between people.  It's not much fun for me when people forget that and insist that the symbols are the important thing. 

I truly don't mean to be discourteous to folks who feel that symbols are personally or culturally important to them.  This is just how I feel about it.   I've just had a few too many bad experiences with the supposedly classic symbols of female domination myself, to the point that I actively dislike them.   I am dominant because I am dominant, not because I wear high heeled boots or stockings or what have you, and I don't believe that fetishists are particularly submissive.

I welcome perspectives on what symbols of female domination mean to other people.  To me they are a negative thing that I associate with demanding fetishists.

In fairness, this is the general subby forum, so the discussion can be opened to symbols of male dominance also.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 1:39:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

shouldn't this question be address in the Mistress section?  merely curious as to why post it here unless you're addressing it male submissives



Why couldn't it be posted to female submissives too?  Some are bi or lesbian... I'd love to know this answer from subs in general

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 1:41:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aidan

Uuuuh...Women? I mean, maybe I'm not thinking deeply enough here, but that's the first thing that springs to mind.


Any one ever tell you not all women are dominant?

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 2:47:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Call me strange, but the first thing that comes to mind when I think of a dominant woman is the eyes.  It's hard to explain, but I know it's there.  I'm not a mind reader or any such thing, but there's something about it that just makes me melt more than words ever will.  So, that's the first thing I think of. *smiles*

Strange thoughts aside, the first thing that comes to mind that I'd consider to be primarily dominant woman material is a strapon.  Just my $0.02...

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 3:09:09 PM   
Politesub53


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Status: offline 		I personally think that there are two seperate answers to this. Some cymbols certainly signify Dominance such as clothing like leather outfits and boots, or certain toys may do it. I take into consideration the point about this just being fetish wear, but not everyone will see it that way.

To me though the main cymbol is simply mannerisms, the use of voice, or a look, or a certain stance. I think this is the same of Dominants in general and not just Dommes.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 4:13:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Einzelganger

Call me strange, but the first thing that comes to mind when I think of a dominant woman is the eyes.  It's hard to explain, but I know it's there.  I'm not a mind reader or any such thing, but there's something about it that just makes me melt more than words ever will.  So, that's the first thing I think of. *smiles*

I would agree with you on this. Every sub/slave i've ever had mentioned this. The slave I am meeting on Tuesday has told me, though the look in my eyes kind of scared him...he could see the dominance. He also mentioned the stance I held seemed very stern.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 4:22:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		For me, a Domme is in the very nature of who she is.  It is in her voice, walk, how she talks, etc....   There are acts and symbols that remind me of my place as her slave; but not that tell me she is the Domme.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 4:43:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		It doesn't have to be considered stern, though.  The dominant women to whom I'm most strongly attracted are the ones who don't act stern.  The ones who don't bark orders, but ask nicely...while the sub knows the weight those sweet words carry, and strives to carry out those requests to the best of her/his ability.  But that's just me.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 7:21:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aidan

Uuuuh...Women? I mean, maybe I'm not thinking deeply enough here, but that's the first thing that springs to mind.


Any one ever tell you not all women are dominant?

I wasn't suggesting that. What I was doing was a more glib and tongue-in-cheek version of what Najakcharmer said. While some things illicit ideas of Domination and submission in me, there's nothing I think of as a necessary symbol. It's not about the what, it's about the who. The more intangible feeling and chemistry of the Dominant person is more important than a concrete thing they use or have.


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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 8:25:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		What comes to mind for me is a delicate hand, with long painted nails, holding out a leash to be clipped on to your collar. 

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 10:53:48 PM   
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What to you is the most potent symbol of female domination?


I don't understand "symbol".   It's presence, confidence, knowledge, respect, within a power exchange.  If by symbol people are referring to fetish attire or specific implements, does that mean they don't see Mistress as Dominant when she's in a bathrobe and curlers?  Perhaps I may be reading into this too much.  When I see or hear the word "symbol" I think "object."  Mistress is not an object to me.

On the flip side of this, how would it sound to ask, "what is the most potent symbol of a submissive/slave?" 


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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/17/2007 11:04:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		To me, if there is a symbol, the strongest one for me is the shod female foot, especially if my face is at the same level.

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/18/2007 12:57:06 AM   
MissOchistic


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Status: offline 		To me...hair ranks pretty high. Pulled back in a tight bun, and i'm already calling her Ma'am and offering my assistance however she'd like, Domme or not.

Another would be the eyes. I can just see a power there, though this is not always true for male Dominants.

Hand gestures are another...if it's someone i don't know/respect, they can piss me right off, but when it's a woman i admire or wish to submit too, an indifferent flick of the wrist puts me right in my place.




< Message edited by MissOchistic -- 5/18/2007 1:00:01 AM >

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RE: Potent symbols of female domination. - 5/18/2007 1:44:54 AM   
nonu


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Status: offline 		The 'look' in Her eyes is usually enough to send a chill down my spine, and a message to my knees to collapse immediately!

The tone of Her voice, and the gentle yet authoritative feel of Her hands on my skin, are other vital symbols of domination, specially when i'm unable to see Her.

Hope i've got the meaning of the topic correct!

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