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slaveaurora -> submission = weak (5/18/2007 5:33:00 AM)
Someone made a comment in another thread about feeling weak when they submit. Do you see submission as a weakness? I often do, and feel that if I need control, then I must be weak. So consequently, I feel "less than" someone who doesn't need control. Thoughts?

KatyLied -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 5:37:09 AM)
I feel stronger. That is how the dynamic works for me. I think it takes a strong person to turn authority over to another. It doesn't make me feel weak, but sometimes I enjoy the feeling of weakness. (does that make sense?). For example, when I am bound and helpless and anything can happen, I feel weak, but in a good way, because I understand where that feeling is coming from. It makes me feel strong when I have someone in my life who cares enough about me to give me orders and who has expectations about my behavior. Some people submit from a place of weakness, others do not.

Lashra -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 5:38:58 AM)
I'm a Dominant female and I do not view submission as a weakness. On the contrary it takes a great deal of strength and trust to put yourself into the hands of another. The need to submit is just a part of your nature and you have the intelligence to recognize that. A weak person could go on forever and never recognize this about themself, or never have the courage to admit it. ~Lashra

raevnn -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 5:39:40 AM)
I don't personally know if there's a right answer to this... even for me. I am weak, I think, in relation to him, but I also think I have enormous strength in other things. For example: I cannot take disappointing Daddy. I crumble if I've done it. However, at my job, I can handle large amounts of pressure, all day long and be fine and happy and never once crumble. I'm weak in the sense that I bend to his will and wishes, but I'm strong enough to get through the tasks he gives me. I'm not sure. Maybe there's a nice balance in there somewhere.

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 5:51:59 AM)
i was a strong person before meeting Daddy. i am still a strong person after submitting to Him. Daddy has told me before that He can tell a weak submissive from the strong ...and having weakness to Him equates to something else that He wasn't looking for before finding me.

AquaticSub -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 6:08:14 AM)
It takes a lot more strength for me to submit then to tell him it's my way or the highway. shrug

beargonewild -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 6:12:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveaurora Someone made a comment in another thread about feeling weak when they submit. Do you see submission as a weakness? I often do, and feel that if I need control, then I must be weak. So consequently, I feel "less than" someone who doesn't need control. Thoughts? As I see it, submission and being submissive is a far cry from being weak or weak of character. Any person who is able to voluntarily give control to another has a very strong inner strength to do so. Being percieved as weak is just a superficial assumtion placed upon them by others who think the submission is a confession of being "less" then what they are. From my own experience, it takes an great leap of faith and trust to submit to another more dominant person. For me, the act of submitting to another is a gift I willingly offer to a dominant especially if that person is worthwhile giving this gift to. The same also applies in reverse.

drawntothedark -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 6:34:31 AM)
I do not feel I am weak. I think my thoughts on this echo Aqua's and Katie's.

imthatacheyouhav -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 6:43:57 AM)
Its been said it takes as STRONG a person to follow as well as lead. I would tend to agree with this. My "thing" is lack or loss of control not nessisarily loss of strength if that makes any sense.

angelthighhighs -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 6:54:16 AM)
perhaps feeling weak isn't the correct word. i know that whether sub or Dominant......both need a strength within them. but i also know that as i surrender to that special someone i trust i feel not weak......but a release...a calmness that i'm safe, protected, cared for..."home".

centraldom501 -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 6:57:00 AM)
One of the strongest women i know is a sub. She can do anything . Not sure if you ever saw Doug past away . Cancer

drawntothedark -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 7:22:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: centraldom501 One of the strongest women i know is a sub. She can do anything . Not sure if you ever saw Doug past away . Cancer smile - Yes I know. I called his wife. And I'm not so sure I'm all that strong. Not lately :)

centraldom501 -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 7:25:52 AM)
Well i texted your dom did not want to be rude to you and call but wanted you to know . Thanks for saying something. U are very very strong women. Not sure why you would say that . I am soooo glad you called her i am sure she was happy to hear it. Great new pic on profile . I love that dress. OH well i dont know if this even works so i hope you get it . I wish you the best . Sincerly, Keith

centraldom501 -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 7:58:26 AM)
OHHHH i forgot the most important thing. I miss you like stupid lol...

subsfaith -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 7:59:32 AM)
For me, submission is one of my strengths. :: smiles :: Faith

Mercnbeth -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 8:00:03 AM)
to submit = neither weaker nor stronger, neither less than nor more than, neither better nor worse, just different than those who don't.[:)]

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 8:10:49 AM)
Being true to yourself is the hardest thing to be. Being "submissive" is neither strong nor weak. Plenty of subs are weak and stupid, plenty are strong and smart, most are some of everything.

juliaoceania -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 8:33:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveaurora Someone made a comment in another thread about feeling weak when they submit. Do you see submission as a weakness? I often do, and feel that if I need control, then I must be weak. So consequently, I feel "less than" someone who doesn't need control. Thoughts? Being in control is rather easy for me. I have had to shoulder a lot of responsibility on my own for many years. I have often been put in the "leadership" position in my life, people look to me for answers often. I accept this mostly. It does not make me feel strong to lead. I have never equated strength with power. Some of the most petty underhanded nasty people I have ever known were in positions of power, and they sought that power. Being a follower feels more natural to me, and I have never sought to be the leader of anything (perhaps that is why people have often requested I step up and lead them? I have considered it). I think that you are confusing submission with lack of leadership skills and ability to take responsibility and follow through on that. Some of the best leaders never sought to lead, some of the most responsible people are submissives. I never feel weak being submissive to my Daddy... ever. He does not treat me like I am weak. He acknowledges my strengths, and he has done a lot of work with me to make me stronger, because that is what he wants in me....

Politesub53 -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 9:00:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Being true to yourself is the hardest thing to be. Being "submissive" is neither strong nor weak. Plenty of subs are weak and stupid, plenty are strong and smart, most are some of everything. I fully agree with you Lucky. The strength issue for me is as follows, my having to admit that what "i" like isnt whats considered the normal role. I see giving full control to a Woman as more of a trust issue than a strength issue. Whatever "Normal" Is ?

littleone35 -> RE: submission = weak (5/18/2007 10:27:10 AM)
I have alway been a strong person. Submitting to my Master is makes me even stronger not physically of course but emotionally. Matt's littleone

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