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tenderscreamz -> Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/20/2007 9:02:08 PM)

Well i need to get some things out here....I had gotten involved with another submissive from this site.And as i am slowly but surely finding out that everything he has spit out from his mouth was a lie.Right down to the very words * i love you*..I had recently discovered that he has been sending money to Mistress's on this site while him and myself was involved..I am so very hurt by the lies and deception i cant even begin to tell what kind of damage this man has done to me..I found he was cheating on me weeks and weeks ago because i had a gut instinct that he was so i went threw his yahoo messenger archive and read more then i wanted too..he was promising things to Mistress's and such while all the time he was inbed with me..he had said that sex could not be apart if our relationship at this time..but yet he could not give any real reason.I so wish i could warn all those who are in contact with thi man because he will only use you  for what he wants and throw you away like a dirty dish towel.he will promise things that are filled with nothing but lies.please be very careful of whom you intrust you heart and emotions with..dont be a victim like i was..




earthycouple -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/20/2007 9:04:03 PM)

it sucks you were hurt.  This is not uncommon in ANY type of relationship.




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/20/2007 9:16:56 PM)

I am very sorry you are hurting...that kind of pain is the worst kind to bear....if you need a ear to bend...i will listen. You are in my thoughts.
Sincerely, .....




tenderscreamz -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 1:25:51 AM)

what pisses me off the most is that people mis-use the word honesty..if honesty is spoken and done the less pain is caused..if anyone feels i have *outted* another well i do apologize..i mentioned no names because i did not want to create more havoc.but there are alot of people out there who are smooth talkers and many people out there who are takin in by smooth talkers.such as myself <silly me>..maybe someone or some of you can shed some light on a question for me..if two people within the same lifestyle are together..both knowing what the lifestyle is about and both being upfront about what each in involved with..why would one feel uneasy about sharing his/her desire/fantasies with the other?? and is sharing ones ddesire/fantasies part of a trusting the other?




stella40 -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 1:53:05 AM)

Yes it is. Honesty to me is sharing everything - needs, wants, desires, fantasies, dreams, problems, thoughts, feelings, moods, opinions. Honesty is being up front and open with someone and allowing them into that most vulnerable part of you. Honesty is being what you appear to have been to this other person.

I'm just so very sorry that it has ended this way for you. It hurts. It appears (I'm only guessing) that this person isn't being honest with themselves and may not have intended to hurt you. But good intentions mean little if they are not followed through, and none of this makes your pain any easier.

Once again I'm very sorry it's turned out this way and wish you the strength to cope with the hurt and the pain. Please remember the rain doesn't fall all the time, sometimes there has to be sunshine as well.




pinksugarsub -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 3:19:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderscreamz

Well i need to get some things out here....I had gotten involved with another submissive from this site.And as i am slowly but surely finding out that everything he has spit out from his mouth was a lie.Right down to the very words * i love you*..I had recently discovered that he has been sending money to Mistress's on this site while him and myself was involved..I am so very hurt by the lies and deception i cant even begin to tell what kind of damage this man has done to me..I found he was cheating on me weeks and weeks ago because i had a gut instinct that he was so i went threw his yahoo messenger archive and read more then i wanted too..he was promising things to Mistress's and such while all the time he was inbed with me..he had said that sex could not be apart if our relationship at this time..but yet he could not give any real reason.I so wish i could warn all those who are in contact with thi man because he will only use you  for what he wants and throw you away like a dirty dish towel.he will promise things that are filled with nothing but lies.please be very careful of whom you intrust you heart and emotions with..dont be a victim like i was..


i am sorry you were lied to, manipulated and hurt. However, i cannot help wondering how you became so intimate with another submissive -- male -- in the first place.  What was the plan?  To act vanilla?  For one of you to become a Dom/me?  i hate to say it but i think this relationship could never have met your needs.  i wish you much better fortune in the future.




tenderscreamz -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 6:18:30 AM)

i was introduced to him by a friend of his..the plan was to date and see how things went..yes we became very intamite with each other.i suppose that would be that the chemistry between us was outstanding..we got along very well for being totally opposite..the plan was that we would date exclusivly and build from there into a D/s relationship once the trust was built to a firm ground..It is possible that this relationship may not have met my needs BUT if the honesty was there that could have been worked on..I think it coulds have been worked on to the point that both sides could have had <our> needs met to the fullest extent..i guess that is why communication is a very large part to a relationship..that is why i am here.. to seek advice and possibily get some help with finding some answer's to questions i have..




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 8:00:58 AM)

Advice- go slower and base intimacy on experience and good judgement NOT lust




slaveish -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 10:14:05 AM)

It is an unfortunate incident, but hopefully one that has made you wiser. I am glad that you had the clackers to go with your gut instinct and not just trust trust trust because it felt so good. I wish you well in your journey.




Indemnis -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 9:36:33 PM)

<hugs Tenders>  :(




RandomGAGirl -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/21/2007 11:28:11 PM)

I am very sorry this happened to you.. I know how hard it is to be blindsided by someone you want to trust :(.  Don't let this experience sour you to D/s or this site in general.  




chrissyslave -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/22/2007 2:20:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderscreamz

i was introduced to him by a friend of his..the plan was to date and see how things went........we got along very well for being totally opposite.....the plan was that we would date exclusivly and build from there into a D/s relationship once the trust was built to a firm ground..It is possible that this relationship may not have met my needs BUT if the honesty was there that could have been worked on...


In order of the above original comments the OP added:  you did see how things went.....and they went lousy!...so you got you answer, though not the one you wanted. 

You weren't "totally opposite" and that was the problem right off...he was/is a sub and he needed a Mistress in his life, and that wasn't ever going to be you....so he fooled you and ultimately you let yourself be fooled into thinking he could "switch" and be a Dom to you, and not a sub to anyone.  That was a major mistake, and I made that same one in vanilla life before I even was aware of  D/s thought or experience (I was naive then in other words), but you are not so naive if you know about being a sub and what a Dom is, and you still bought the "I can completely change for you" BS.  So, a bit of shame on you for becoming emotionally involved before you really was sure he would switch his basic nature.  BTW, I always shake my head when male subs contact me and say they want to Dom me....yea...right....not!  I tend to think either their sub profile is false to begin with, or they are being false with who they are now.  The most you could have hoped for is likely for him to become a switch, which means he would still have to have a Domme or Top on the side. 

As for "could have been worked on with honesty" ...well, you can work on something to death but why bother?....when you sound like you need a true Dom in your life...so why try to switch someone?....just to have some sex now?  So please be honest with yourself...you made mistakes, created false hopes, and invested too much too soon....but at least you finally checked out your hunches and learned a few hard-luck lessons...and those were when you finally got honest with your relationship.

Now the question is whether you will be honest with your own needs and type of relationship needed in the future (a true Dom), and focus on the degree of CURRENT match-up...not remaking a sexual partner to be someone they are not, and can't be.  I hope you see my words to be a bit of tough honesty and not to further salt your emotional wounds.  And the next thing I would love to hear is you have completely broke off this dead-end sub/sub so called "relationship" and getting back on your true track in searching.  In the end you will be more honest and successful if you do. I wish you the best in a future "honest" search.





tenderscreamz -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/22/2007 2:31:25 AM)

i'm not gonna let anything sour my interest and desire for D/s.I let that happen years ago and i am still kicking my own ass for that.tell me..how do i go about trusting again?? how do i find one who knows what the word trust means and honesty??




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/22/2007 7:37:52 AM)

Time and good judgement

http://www.collarchat.com/m_548339/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#548757
To trust or not to trust

http://www.collarchat.com/m_534521/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#534848
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_48957/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#48957
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_96129/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#96129
will I ever trust a man again

http://www.collarchat.com/m_329482/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#329482
learning to trust again after being hurt

http://www.collarchat.com/m_346651/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#346651
how do you deal with broken trust?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_398537/mpage_1/key_trust/tm.htm#398537
trust...how to mend when it is broken




Trampler -> RE: Wolf in sheeps clothing (5/22/2007 8:24:57 AM)

tender sweetie, I am so sorry this happened! he is a dog and not worth crying over....(I know easier said then done, right?)  You will be in my thoughts and I will send positive energy your way. (btw this is SwitchWitch.) **hugs** I will see you later!




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