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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:34:18 PM   
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Space, itself, is expanding.


Into what?


More space.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:35:44 PM   
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Time should have a say in this expansion.

Kinda like the final frontier, huh kids?

LOL,
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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:36:26 PM   
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Time applies to everything.


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I don't know what existed before time


Nongenius that I am, I'm confused by these two statements. If time (which doesn't exist?) applies to everything, can there even be a period before time existed? If there was a period before time existed, wouldn't that suggest that time doesn't apply to absolutely everything?

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:38:26 PM   
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Space, itself, is expanding.


Into what?


More space.


That seems a tad circular. Is the "more space" itself expanding?

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:39:05 PM   
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Time applies to everything.


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I don't know what existed before time


Nongenius that I am, I'm confused by these two statements. If time (which doesn't exist?) applies to everything, can there even be a period before time existed? If there was a period before time existed, wouldn't that suggest that time doesn't apply to absolutely everything?


"Time" in the first quote is time, proper.
"Time" in the second quote means "the timeline as far as we know it to be".

(First quote refers to time as a concept while the second one uses "time" to refer to the period of time for which we have some understanding of- i.e., since the Big Bang.)

Just a context thing.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:39:56 PM   
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Fast reply: You know, a real genius might realize that the plural of "genius" isn't "genius's."


This nongenius chuckles at that every time he looks at the thread!

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:41:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

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Time applies to everything.


quote:

I don't know what existed before time


Nongenius that I am, I'm confused by these two statements. If time (which doesn't exist?) applies to everything, can there even be a period before time existed? If there was a period before time existed, wouldn't that suggest that time doesn't apply to absolutely everything?


"Time" in the first quote is time, proper.
"Time" in the second quote means "the timeline as far as we know it to be".

(First quote refers to time as a concept while the second one uses "time" to refer to the period of time for which we have some understanding of- i.e., since the Big Bang.)

Just a context thing.


So does time apply to the period before the Big Bang?

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:42:35 PM   
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More space.


That seems a tad circular. Is the "more space" itself expanding?


"Circular" is when "logic" supports itself, making no assumptions.  An example would be "God is real because the Bible says so," along with "The Bible is accurate because God says so."  (Just to explain the word- but I get what you mean.)

And, yes, this "more space" is expanding into yet even more space.  As that space expands into yet even more space than even more space.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:45:49 PM   
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So does time apply to the period before the Big Bang?


Time applies to everything that exists.  If somthing existed before the Big Bang, then, yes.  If nothing did, then one might say either way- the point is moot and would be a matter of definition convention for idiots to argue about.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:48:05 PM   
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Fast reply: You know, a real genius might realize that the plural of "genius" isn't "genius's."


This nongenius chuckles at that every time he looks at the thread!


I imagine it's easier to laugh when easily amused.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:50:15 PM   
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So does time apply to the period before the Big Bang?


Time applies to everything that exists.  If somthing existed before the Big Bang, then, yes.  If nothing did, then one might say either way- the point is moot and would be a matter of definition convention for idiots to argue about.


So nothing existed before the Big Bang? What caused it then?

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:51:20 PM   
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Fast reply: You know, a real genius might realize that the plural of "genius" isn't "genius's."


This nongenius chuckles at that every time he looks at the thread!


I imagine it's easier to laugh when easily amused.


Getting personal, are we?

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:51:26 PM   
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Fifteen pages of you, all over your own dick.
 
What's not to be amused about?

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 1:59:49 PM   
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I imagine it's easier to laugh when easily amused.


Getting personal, are we?


I'm not one for passive-aggressive arguments 'n such.  You made a condescending statement, and I responded to it as such.

Try not to troll, novice.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 2:02:09 PM   
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Fifteen pages of you, all over your own dick.
 
What's not to be amused about?


Ah, but I would argue you're trying to hop up and down on my dick.  ;)

You see, I've been talking about the nature of the Big Bang.. and, yet, you just made it about me- yet again.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 2:02:25 PM   
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I imagine it's easier to laugh when easily amused.


Getting personal, are we?


I'm not one for passive-aggressive arguments 'n such.  You made a condescending statement, and I responded to it as such.

Try not to troll, novice.


Apologies if you felt condescended to. I was just sharing LaM's amusement over an entertaining typo.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 2:04:51 PM   
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Apologies if you felt condescended to. I was just sharing LaM's amusement over an entertaining typo.


Ah, I see.  A silly misunderstanding, then.

It's all good.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 2:06:55 PM   
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CL, you're being oversensitive, and maybe it's time to get laid.  Even geniuses need to get their rocks off now and then.

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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 3:28:13 PM   
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Diamonds- nor their base components, so far as they are commonly known (Carbon)- are not eternal.  It was just a simplified analogy.  All matter will be destroyed in the future.  It'll just break down until nothing is left.  (This is pretty well known in the Physics community.)  I think it's about on an order not too many times off from 10^40 years.


snipped the god components, so you are saying that the understanding of the convervation of energy is not true?  


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I mean no offense, Real.. but I sincerely doubt you'd be able to understand.. the idea is several orders of magnitude more complex than the extremely basic things I've said before that haven't been understood..

The following isn't technically accurate- so don't hold me to it.  But it's a simplified approximation.

The universe is going to split up into a huge number of child universes in which the micromers of reality, proper, are each going to be stuck in their own black hole.





You can see that is not the question i asked you and you answered luckydog again.  i never had anything to say about that. 




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RE: So Why Are All The Genius's Insane? - 6/3/2007 3:30:19 PM   
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Time should have a say in this expansion.

Kinda like the final frontier, huh kids?

LOL,
Ron



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