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My agenda - 5/22/2007 3:47:25 PM

MsCameron

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I met my former submissive at a play party. Over time we became friends and would chat when we ran into each other. 6 months later we ventured into play partners. He was here on a work visa and at the time, I had a primary partner who was not a bottom or sub. It worked for both of us.
The relationship progressed and almost a full year after we started playing, he was collared.
He was with me for 4 1/2 years.

In looking back, it seems to me to be such a nice way to learn and progress. There was no time frame or pressure for immediate steps to be taken. Every step forward seemed to be a natural progression, if I'm making any sense at all.

In searching for the last 2 years, I have found I'm uncomfortable with the "immediate gratification" of many that contact me. They want to serve and serve right away. Not interested in the person I am but what it is that I can provide as an outlet for their wants, needs and desires. I understand that.

Granted, I'm sure that many are sincere in their offer of service. and I appreciate the offers :)

But I've come to realize that meeting someone on a Wednesday and putting them into service by the weekend is not going to happen. It just doesn't work for me.

How many are willing to become friends first? To get to know the person before those next steps are considered?

I think this is really the primary reason I have become so fed-up with on-line searching and I really don't give it a chance at all.
If I don't have a "like" relationship first, the intimate one is never going to happen and I refuse to jump into intimacy first.

Hell, maybe I just go at a slower pace then the average bear :) smile

MC

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And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out. Keep going, going...
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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 4:40:03 PM

SDFemDom4cuck

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsCameron

I met my former submissive at a play party. Over time we became friends and would chat when we ran into each other. 6 months later we ventured into play partners. He was here on a work visa and at the time, I had a primary partner who was not a bottom or sub. It worked for both of us.
The relationship progressed and almost a full year after we started playing, he was collared.
He was with me for 4 1/2 years.

In looking back, it seems to me to be such a nice way to learn and progress. There was no time frame or pressure for immediate steps to be taken. Every step forward seemed to be a natural progression, if I'm making any sense at all.

In searching for the last 2 years, I have found I'm uncomfortable with the "immediate gratification" of many that contact me. They want to serve and serve right away. Not interested in the person I am but what it is that I can provide as an outlet for their wants, needs and desires. I understand that.

Granted, I'm sure that many are sincere in their offer of service. and I appreciate the offers :)

But I've come to realize that meeting someone on a Wednesday and putting them into service by the weekend is not going to happen. It just doesn't work for me.

How many are willing to become friends first? To get to know the person before those next steps are considered?

I think this is really the primary reason I have become so fed-up with on-line searching and I really don't give it a chance at all.
If I don't have a "like" relationship first, the intimate one is never going to happen and I refuse to jump into intimacy first.

Hell, maybe I just go at a slower pace then the average bear :) smile

MC

I just had a very similar discussion about this with someone last night. I agree completely and understand what you're saying. I would prefer to know the person, and for them to know me, prior to stepping into any of the physical aspects of all this. By knowing them, by knowing their mind, and vice versa, I think it only adds to the dynamic and energy that is available when it comes to the physical interations of BDSM.

While I'm more than capable of going through the motions, I prefer there to be that sizzle and spark of energy flowing between two people. For me, that only becomes possible when all the layers have been peeled back and there is an inate knowledge and recognition between two people.

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She dealt her pretty words like Blades -
How glittering they shone -
And every One unbared a Nerve
Or wantoned with a Bone -

I want a sensitive man - one who'll cry when I hit him.

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 4:50:24 PM

earthycouple

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I seem to let things happen as they do. The last sub I was "friends" with first was a disater. Robert, and I have had an online and telephone friendship for a few months now. He came to visit, we were both exactly who we said we were and I put my collar around his neck knowing full well this is right for us both. Now I'm chomping at the bit for the day (May 30) that he returns to me to stay. I hear his voice when I read his words, he has taken the time to learn me and my needs intricately and intimately. I've never felt so comfortable. We simply work. And no amount or lack of time would have changed that for us.

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 5:01:52 PM

Politesub53

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I think if its after a month or a year, if the chemistry is right then things will progress well.

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 5:31:42 PM

SDFemDom4cuck

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quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple

I seem to let things happen as they do. The last sub I was "friends" with first was a disater. Robert, and I have had an online and telephone friendship for a few months now. He came to visit, we were both exactly who we said we were and I put my collar around his neck knowing full well this is right for us both. Now I'm chomping at the bit for the day (May 30) that he returns to me to stay. I hear his voice when I read his words, he has taken the time to learn me and my needs intricately and intimately. I've never felt so comfortable. We simply work. And no amount or lack of time would have changed that for us.

Not to hijack but don't you feel that time spent online/phone helped in the two of you getting to know one another rather than being close enough to jump into the physical immediately?

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She dealt her pretty words like Blades -
How glittering they shone -
And every One unbared a Nerve
Or wantoned with a Bone -

I want a sensitive man - one who'll cry when I hit him.

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 6:53:05 PM

MzMia

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Bravo MsCameron! I feel the same way.
I have nothing against playing and those that seek and enjoy ONLY this.
But ultimately, a relationship is just that, a relationship.
I have a real hard time bringing someone into my life and personal space,
that I do not know WELL and have a friendship with FIRST.
The great thing is, as the Dominant--> YOU set and should control the pace.
If a submissive is not willing to take the time and get to know you as a person and a friend,
prior to playing.......is this someone you really need or want?
I am sure all of us have had hundreds of offers from strangers wanting to "serve us", but
for many of us...we need more than "service" from near strangers.
Great thread! Your agenda is very, very, very similar to MY agenda.

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"My partner's whisper"--bloomswell

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 7:10:03 PM

Lashra

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I move at a slow pace in my relationships. I met my sub and we talked online and on the phone for over a year. I went to meet him and we spent a wonderful week together. The energy and chemistry was there, it was great but I wasn't ready to move right into the intimacy. Another year went by and he moved up here to be with his family and to be closer to me. We've been dating for over 2 years now IRL and I just collared him a few months ago.

No I never like to rush into relationships. We have to be friends first and if the chemistry is right then something more later on. Now we are making plans to move in in together hopefully next year.

~Lashra

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 7:56:59 PM

MzMia

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

I move at a slow pace in my relationships. I met my sub and we talked online and on the phone for over a year. I went to meet him and we spent a wonderful week together. The energy and chemistry was there, it was great but I wasn't ready to move right into the intimacy. Another year went by and he moved up here to be with his family and to be closer to me. We've been dating for over 2 years now IRL and I just collared him a few months ago.

No I never like to rush into relationships. We have to be friends first and if the chemistry is right then something more later on. Now we are making plans to move in in together hopefully next year.
~Lashra

Lashra thanks for sharing your story with us. What a wonderful story and a testiment of
how successful a relationship can go, when taken slowly.
I usually feel like the odd ball for feeling this way.
Thank you so much, sweetie.

{{Huggles}}

< Message edited by MzMia -- 5/22/2007 7:57:28 PM >

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What's your favorite fetish?
"My partner's whisper"--bloomswell

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 8:07:02 PM

undergroundsea

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I have had fun serving or playing with someone whom I had met at a party that night or that weekend. I have enjoyed beginning to serve or play with someone whom I have known socially for years. I have enjoyed knowing someone through online for over a year and playing upon meeting. I have had fun courting someone whom I found romantically or sexually attractive and then finding equilibrium in friendship. I have enjoyed relationships that began as friendship and remained the same.

I have no particular rule for which pace to take and I let it occur organically. I believe that relationships can exist at different levels, which makes for different levels of compatibility and a range of what might be a suitable pace.

For a long-term relationship, I think slow is better. That said, I think slow is subjective, relative and is defined by chemistry. When both people instinctly feel they have found a strong match, the pace can be faster than a case where the compatibility is still being determined. While I might be more hopeful about some introductions than others, I approach relationships or introductions without expecting a long-term relationship and let the chemistry define its course.

I do not actively practice the friends first approach. For me, play is not for the sake of play itself (without regard to how I feel about the person) but does require some attraction, chemistry, and connection suited to the level of interaction that occurs. When I meet someone new, I enjoy the excitement of exploring that possibility as well the courtship, flirting, and whatever play that might occur.

To me, it is similar to vanilla dating. There is an introduction and courtship which may or may not progress to dating, which may or may not progress to serious dating, which in turn may or may not progress to marriage or a similar deeper commitment. As the relationship progresses, so do change the type of activity and emotional investment and expression at a suitable pace. I think the same can be said for a D/s relationship.

Sure, someone might transition from a friendship to any of the stages of a romantic relationship. However, more often a romantic relationship is pursued without first being platonic friends for a defined amount of time. Also, I don't think dating or courtship is necessarily antithetic to friendship. That is, during courtship or dating, there is usually an interpersonal connection that is being developed alongside any romantic and sexual exploration. I would prefer to pursue each component--friendship and romance--simultaneously with someone with whom I feel romantic attraction and consider to be a potential match. If the friends first scenario occurs with me, it would be by coincidence and not by design.

My two cents.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: My agenda - 5/22/2007 11:19:42 PM

MaamJay

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I am with You ladies ... take some time to let things develop. One of My recent threads was generated by frustration because a potential slave was being far too impatient to get into My home to serve Me. I do not invite anyone in lightly, I have to have established some basic trust in them. Also in Our situation, Master has to be comfortable with their presence also. I will play with someone after socially meeting, but such play is usually nonsexual as far as I am concerned. It might be spanking, flogging, bondage etc and I might let them cum for Me but not do anything more than maybe suckle My breasts (and most don't get that far!). There have only been 2 subs that I have allowed to pleasure Me sexually on first play ... and the connection I felt with both was really amazing. (OK, one of those later switched with me and became Master *grin*). One lucky boy even got a golden shower which I regard as a highly intimate act. But then, if he was able to, I would have him live here with Me in a heartbeat, he was such a great sub. Not possible due to his other life commitments unfortunately.

Despite recent disappointments (the aforementioned impatient slave eventually did a runner on the eve of coming to stay nearby and start training after another 2 months of regular calls!), I am still keen to find a good slave. I am corresponding with another who lives in another state, so the most viable way will be to have him visit for a weekend. How much and what type of service will depend on the chemistry when W/we meet ... I can only hope it is good! Even then, I won't rush, there would be further visits, gradually extending the duration, then perhaps the offer to move here on a contract before moving towards permanence. This is how it went over a year with Master, it became obvious when W/we just HAD to be together because W/we could no longer bear to be apart!

Stick to what suits ... perhaps never say Never ... but don't compromise Your standards under pressure!
Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 1:11:22 AM

nonu

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

I move at a slow pace in my relationships. I met my sub and we talked online and on the phone for over a year. I went to meet him and we spent a wonderful week together. The energy and chemistry was there, it was great but I wasn't ready to move right into the intimacy. Another year went by and he moved up here to be with his family and to be closer to me. We've been dating for over 2 years now IRL and I just collared him a few months ago.

No I never like to rush into relationships. We have to be friends first and if the chemistry is right then something more later on. Now we are making plans to move in in together hopefully next year.

~Lashra

What a truly remarkable narrative, Ms Lashra. It sounds like a fairy-tale coming true. I wish You the best and most fulfilling relationship with the lucky one. Thank You for sharing such an inspiring post.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 5:39:07 AM

earthycouple

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple

I seem to let things happen as they do. The last sub I was "friends" with first was a disater. Robert, and I have had an online and telephone friendship for a few months now. He came to visit, we were both exactly who we said we were and I put my collar around his neck knowing full well this is right for us both. Now I'm chomping at the bit for the day (May 30) that he returns to me to stay. I hear his voice when I read his words, he has taken the time to learn me and my needs intricately and intimately. I've never felt so comfortable. We simply work. And no amount or lack of time would have changed that for us.

Not to hijack but don't you feel that time spent online/phone helped in the two of you getting to know one another rather than being close enough to jump into the physical immediately?

I do yes. The time we've chatted and talked online has been amazing. What was so cool that in person it was no different. That was a chance we took....just like all the other chances we and everyone else takes when finally meeting in person. The night he got here I was ready to engage with him....which is unlike others. I don't like to engage in a "scene" off the bat but I was so comfortable with him and he with me.

Two weeks before (meeting Robert in person) I met someone who I felt comfy with online and the minute I saw him in person I felt "weird". No good description, no good reasoning...but he made me feel uncomfortable in my own home...heck in my own skin....but online things weren't "amazing" but good. I never engaged with him. He and I chatted longer than Robert and I had.

As far as Robert goes....I do feel if we had been local to each other and had met a week after chatting then at this same point in time we'd be in the same place regarding our feelings towards each other. lol except I'd be less frustrated because I'd physically have him here.

I think the question is: would I have engaged in physical BDSM with him if he had been local and would that have changed things?

I don't know if I have an answer for that... What I do know is the ease between us was soooo darn simple and not forced and relaxed that I, being the jumper I am, may have been willing to engage in BDSM or exhibit more of my dominance almost upon meeting in person. Would that change who we are, together, today? Got me. I'm not naive enough to say "NO"....because I don't know what would have happened. I'm just glad what did happen, happened.

I feel like this rambled and if so, my apologies.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 6:26:20 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsCameron

How many are willing to become friends first? To get to know the person before those next steps are considered?

MC

Being friends first isn't something I need or want. I want to know enough about the person to see if there is enough potential there to consider training. If so, during training we may or may not become friends, we may or may not continue things beyond that period.

I'm very straight forward about the authority dynamic I'm interested in. Frankly I am exceedingly unlikely to see a friend has having that potential because I all ready relate to them in another way. Same reason I would never turn a vanilla relationship into a Ds one or a Ds one into a vanilla relationship.

A good solid Ds relationship can take on the roles of friends, mates, and lovers over time but the foundation is Ds in my household.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 7:39:36 AM

JeniferJuniper

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Oh lordie - how I love these forums. Someone always comes along and voices the same fears, disapointments or feelings as I have.

Thanks MsC.

Personally, anyone who wants to rush immediately makes me take a step or 2 back.

JJ

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 7:45:32 AM

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Friendship didnt used to be imoprtant to me when I started out playing in bdsm. I didnt want a personal connection a lot of the time it was instant thrills nothing meaningful. I didnt appreciate what bondage could be then.
Me and my boy clicked after a few emails and msn and then spent 6 months speaking to each other daily via msn and email and talking loads. We met a few times in that time and then I had a big life funk. I cut myself off from everyone for 3 months and I didnt talk to him at all, I had so much going on I didnt explain properly what was happening and I hurt him quite a lot. eventually I got on touch and he had waited there for me and was lovely with me and again such a good friend and then one day it all clicked and now we have been together 7 months. I cant imagine ever wanting a quick flash in the pan thrill again.( apart from odd spankings in fetish clubs !!)I love that I am learning my boy and when we play we have chemistry and when weare vanilla we have a loving happy healthy relationship. We talk about everything and we are slowly learning each other so that eventually we will live together and build a long term relationship. Friendship is definatly the most imoprtant thing for us. I never felt truly a mistress when I was having fun without the friendship , what I feel in this relationship is just awesome.
I am also friendly with my maid , we of course have a completely different relationship to what I have with my boy but again I would find it harder to have her at my home and serving me if I didnt have some kind of friendship bond there. Though our play is not as intense or hands on as it is with my partner.

Who can say what a healthy or normal period of time is to become involved in a relationship, it works out differently for different people. I reakon when its right it will fall into place when its ready be it a day a month or a year down the line. All I know is if things didnt work out with my boy I would be extremely caustious and want to spend a long time getting to know someone and being their friend before jumping into a relationship.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 7:58:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsCameron

How many are willing to become friends first? To get to know the person before those next steps are considered?

I think that, with age there comes wisdom, but not necessarily for all.

I met a woman from Louisiana some years ago. We seemed to hit it off very well, but then she became very anxious for me to up and move there almost immediately. I told her that I couldn't do that because I have certain obligations and matters to take care of before moving. Needless to say, that relationship ended very abruptly.

This applies to men, but the same people who want a quick fix probably wolf their food down, bypass forplay entirely, and ejaculate prematurely.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 8:42:21 AM

thetammyjo

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quote:

ORIGINAL: canupleaseme

Friendship didnt used to be imoprtant to me when I started out playing in bdsm. I didnt want a personal connection a lot of the time it was instant thrills nothing meaningful. I didnt appreciate what bondage could be then.

There is a big difference between wanting to be friends and having quickies or casual BDSM. Heck, I won't even scene at play parties with someone I don't sincerely know.

I do not do casual or one-time scenes.

But for me Ds is not the same as friendship nor it is vanilla romantic love. Those may come but they are not the same as a Ds relationship grounded in and founded upon the Ds dynamic.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 10:04:09 AM

DiannaVesta

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quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple

I seem to let things happen as they do. The last sub I was "friends" with first was a disater. Robert, and I have had an online and telephone friendship for a few months now. He came to visit, we were both exactly who we said we were and I put my collar around his neck knowing full well this is right for us both. Now I'm chomping at the bit for the day (May 30) that he returns to me to stay. I hear his voice when I read his words, he has taken the time to learn me and my needs intricately and intimately. I've never felt so comfortable. We simply work. And no amount or lack of time would have changed that for us.

This is exactly the winning combination for me only I charge them for my phone time which apparently is controversial here. (the whole tribute thing) Its important for me to see if we are compatible and that we really get to know one another. I just don't have the time to open up my phone lines to any guy curious about Goddess Dianna Vesta or in "One Handed Bandit Mode".
Its starts off fairly lighthearted with few instructions. The main thing I am looking for is if this person is capable of really having a relationship with me that ALWAYS results in friendship or if they are purely a thrill seeker caught up in the moment. If they are SOOOOOOO interested they'll invest the time and money to prove it.

Yeah munches and parties are fine but not really for me. For one I'm extremely busy and I'm also more into the femdom scene then I am the BDSM community. Don't get me wrong, I support and adore the BDSM community but I have always felt female domination & female supremacy is a culture on its own. This is a whole other topic. My real point here is that I feel most comfortable around men and women into female domination. These groups are more difficult to find and not always accessible.

Here's the reality and people can squawk at all they want but I have found most of my slaves/subs whatever from my call line. I am available during the day, weekends - and when I'm away its forwards to my cell phone. I enjoy talking to them over the phone and if I find that we are compatible and he is sincere I am more generous with my time. After some time I'll meet with them, have some fun. In fact I met with a few guys already while down here in Florida and we had a blast. What the final outcome is, I don't know, but I do know that we instantly had a connection because we already spent time on the phone & there was a nice level of trust already established. Regardless of anything we'll have fun and a deep friendship.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 3:07:46 PM

SDFemDom4cuck

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quote:

I do yes. The time we've chatted and talked online has been amazing. What was so cool that in person it was no different. That was a chance we took....just like all the other chances we and everyone else takes when finally meeting in person. The night he got here I was ready to engage with him....which is unlike others. I don't like to engage in a "scene" off the bat but I was so comfortable with him and he with me.

Two weeks before (meeting Robert in person) I met someone who I felt comfy with online and the minute I saw him in person I felt "weird". No good description, no good reasoning...but he made me feel uncomfortable in my own home...heck in my own skin....but online things weren't "amazing" but good. I never engaged with him. He and I chatted longer than Robert and I had.

As far as Robert goes....I do feel if we had been local to each other and had met a week after chatting then at this same point in time we'd be in the same place regarding our feelings towards each other. lol except I'd be less frustrated because I'd physically have him here.

I think the question is: would I have engaged in physical BDSM with him if he had been local and would that have changed things?

I don't know if I have an answer for that... What I do know is the ease between us was soooo darn simple and not forced and relaxed that I, being the jumper I am, may have been willing to engage in BDSM or exhibit more of my dominance almost upon meeting in person. Would that change who we are, together, today? Got me. I'm not naive enough to say "NO"....because I don't know what would have happened. I'm just glad what did happen, happened.

I feel like this rambled and if so, my apologies.

You didn't ramble at all earthy so no reason to apologize in the least. I appreciate your being so honest and upfront with laying it all bare to answer the questions. Thank you.

_____________________________

Ms Jo

She dealt her pretty words like Blades -
How glittering they shone -
And every One unbared a Nerve
Or wantoned with a Bone -

I want a sensitive man - one who'll cry when I hit him.

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RE: My agenda - 5/23/2007 3:40:47 PM

MsCameron

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Thank you all for responding :) I was starting to think I was "out there" somewhere :) but it seems I'm in very good company ...smile

I should explain my comment about being friends first.

As I am 49, I'm looking for not only a submissive but a submissive to share my life.
That raises the bar even higher, I think.

I have patience.. although some days I wonder where the hell it went :) and I've had the kind of relationship I'm looking for.. It'll happen again ;)

cheers all,
MC

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I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out. Keep going, going...
Lateralis.Tool

(in reply to SDFemDom4cuck)

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