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girl4you2 -> RE: Pat Buchanan vs Adolf Hitler (5/23/2007 8:28:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: lockedaway
You weren't talking about experiences, you were talking about socio-economic status. The Irish (gosh, did I spell it right, hon?) experienced predjudice and so did the Italians and the Jews and the Puerto Ricans and the Koreans....all down the line. OK, so what you are saying is that no white family was as poor as a black family in the 1950's? LOLOLOLOLOLOL do I have that right? As someone who grew up in Arkansas, I can assure you that not only are you WRONG about the 50's but you are still WRONG is you made that statement concerning the first decade of 2000.
Oh...the only ones that didn't experience any predjudice were the Vietnamese.
perhaps you might wish to peruse back a bit (or look here for a synopsis) as to what i did or didn't refer to. i at no time said that situations regarding white and black families were the same now, nor did i say that whites were uniformly affluent whereas blacks were not. to do so would be ludicrous. and it wasn't i who originally brought up the 1950's or 1960's, nor the 1900's. one needn't have grown up in the deep south to see the hypocrisy of buchanon's words. it's alive and well in any city in any state in this country, and in others as well.
i doubt even buchanon would see the likes/equivalents of a david duke and a malcom x walking hand in hand talking about how sweet the pie was.
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ORIGINAL: girl4you2
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ORIGINAL: luckydog1
Buchanon said
"In 1960, 18 million black Americans, 10 percent of the nation, were not fully integrated into society, but they had been assimilated into our culture. They worshiped the same God, spoke the same language, had endured the same Depression and war, watched the same TV shows on the same four channels, laughed at the same comedians, went to the same movies, ate the same foods, read the same newspapers and went to schools where, even when segregated, we learned the same history and literature and shared the same holidays: Christmas, New Year's, Washington's Birthday, Easter, Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day, Columbus Day. Segregation existed, but black folks were as American as apple pie, having lived in this land longer than almost every other group save the Native Americans .
am i the only one who has some real problems with both what this guy said and his logic, facts, and basic understanding of this issue of blacks in the 50s society? watched the same tv shows? how many had tv in each group? same comedians? same musicians? how many ate the same foods? how many foght the war side by side? i don't think so. american as white apple pie? please. and what about the chinese who were brought over to work on the west coast? the mexicans who were from the southwest, but not native americans? this whole thing just doesn't fly for me. the french and spanish might have something to say about it as well; new orleans, st. augustine, etc. were around a fairly long time ago.
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