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HornyToadsMI -> BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/26/2007 12:08:00 PM)

Guess W/we are depraved or strange.....W/we are looking for other couples into flogging, tie and tease, then sex.  i know that the two worlds don't seem to collide very often, but we are looking for a new group of friends who understand the otherside of O/our equation.  Most of our swinger friends aren't into "pain", but a good smack on the butt makes my juices flow.  So, i am putting this out there, in hopes that someone has some positive input for U/us. 

toadette



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/26/2007 12:09:15 PM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1016800/mpage_1/key_swinging/tm.htm#1016828
Mixing Lifestyles

http://www.collarchat.com/m_566255/mpage_1/key_swinging/tm.htm#566423
Mixed functions...Ds and swinging?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_236085/mpage_1/key_swinging/tm.htm#236570
1 femdom to another:  swing clubs?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_32045/mpage_1/key_swinging/tm.htm#32045
Swinging and the scene

http://www.collarchat.com/m_294186/mpage_1/key_swinging/tm.htm#294186
Swinging parties and you



HornyToadsMI -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/26/2007 12:18:40 PM)

Thank you, LuckyAlbatross.  W/we need all the help W/we can get!  LOL! 

toadette



CrazyC -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/26/2007 12:40:04 PM)

I have no idea about the scene in Michigan, but you can find us. I have found in some BDSM scenes swinging isn't accepted for the controle aspects, and in the Swinging world for th pain issue. but i have found quite a few, and have had a beautiful time.

I kind of confused on what you are looking for, and why you are posting it here.



minnetar -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/26/2007 7:46:49 PM)

i know there are a few swing clubs in Michigan.  Just google it.

minnetar



brightspot -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 12:54:32 AM)

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Missy.



julietsierra -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 5:30:14 AM)

toadette:

You're not the only ones out there. I know of at least two other people <grin>
How far is Stevensville from Detroit? I should do a mapquest.

juliet



julietsierra -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 5:34:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CrazyC

I have no idea about the scene in Michigan, but you can find us. I have found in some BDSM scenes swinging isn't accepted for the controle aspects, and in the Swinging world for th pain issue. but i have found quite a few, and have had a beautiful time.

I kind of confused on what you are looking for, and why you are posting it here.


Just a guess, but I'm thinking that she's posting here because in the swing world, it's difficult to find people who are involved in both bdsm and swinging. They exist - more so than I first suspected, but for those I know, bdsm takes a secondary role to the swinging, and there are fewer of us - far fewer - for whom bdsm is the primary role and it's not just a playful slap and ticklefest

Posting on the swing sites doesn't really get anywhere. So... what better way to handle things than to work in the opposite direction and see where it leads.

Can't hurt.... or maybe it can.. wouldn't THAT be fun!!??

juliet



spankmepink11 -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 5:39:04 AM)

I like a healthy mixture of the two.



lateralist1 -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 6:06:51 AM)

Depends what you mean by swinging?
Multiple partners all experienced in sex and BDSM then yes.
But it would take a damn good Domme to control it all.
Not sure I could do it but I would love to try.
I have topped three subs but without the sex.
My own slave and a married hetro couple.
That would be the first problem perhaps everyone would need to be bi to make it easier.
Could be a fantastic scene but the work involved to put it all together could take months. Everytime you add another person you add another set of sexual and BDSM limits.
My minds racing at the possibilities lol.
Great post by the way.



LadyPact -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 6:09:38 AM)

I'm just going to sit here and wave.



HornyToadsMI -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 6:51:39 AM)

To clarify:  what W/we are looking for is another D/s couple, who enjoys full swap.  To clarify futher:  another couple (or two or three (big cheesy grin!)) who would cater to their own sub, but we all end up having sex.  i am not talking about topping someone else's sub, unless the Dom/Domme wishes.  Tying, blindfolding, and then more to one or more sub at a time.  Of course, I love to have my hair yanked on and spanked, but for the more intense punishment, that is reserved for Toad. 

Thank you for all of your responses.  It is awesome i can put such a beginner question out there, and be treated with respect.  Can't find that on the swinger sites!  (Found out what watersports was the hard way, and was not jetskiing and hot tubbing, like i thought! )  [:)] 



mistoferin -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:04:30 AM)

I am not aware of a specific group of BDSMers who are into swinging. There have been several attempts to combine swingers groups with BDSM groups but they generally ended in conflicts. Swingers are not necessarily aware or respectful of the protocols involved with BDSM groups. People who were strictly into BDSM were put off by the forward advances of the swingers...it just got ugly. There are people though who are into both, I just don't know of any groups that are made up specifically of them.



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:12:38 AM)

not for us however to each his own

good luck in your search



MistressLorelei -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:14:58 AM)

You could try adultfriendfinder.com  That site caters to swingers, but has a lot of bdsm folks as well.  Lots of people to hook up with, though the site isn't exactly free.



HornyToadsMI -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:18:12 AM)

mistoferin-

i understand where you are coming from there!  W/we have found several friends who don't feel that everyone is a possible sex partner.  But, i have to admit, there are many couples and single males out there who feel that you will have sex with them, just cuz you are there.  W/we avoid those types.  Toad makes sure that i am safe, since we only same room swing with others.  He can keep an eye on me that way (get tequila in me, and i will do just about anything..hahaha).  Nothing makes me madder than anyone who feels they are entitled to a taste, just cuz you are in the room.



mistoferin -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:23:47 AM)

I'm glad that you understood what I was trying to say. I didn't want to offend you. You can see how such issues would be magnified then in a group where permission is not something that is taken for granted even when it is to give such a simple thing as a casual hug or handshake hello.



HornyToadsMI -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:33:11 AM)

i met one couple on line years ago, who taught me that.  They swing (they moved to Florida...bummer) and adjust the intensity of the scene to the couple they are with.  So, i asked about touching and what was appropriate, and when to ask permission.  He was very open about answering my questions.  i try to treat all people with respect, because that is how i wish to be treated.  Make Me mad, and I will be on the other side of the whip (then the switch in me comes out!!)  And i am not shy, i don't offend easily, so bluntness is the best policy here!



julietsierra -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 7:36:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

You could try adultfriendfinder.com  That site caters to swingers, but has a lot of bdsm folks as well.  Lots of people to hook up with, though the site isn't exactly free.


adultfriendfinder is just alt with a different focus. Other sites include swappernet.com and swinglifestyle.com. Of those, one is free and the other isn't after 3 days.

But they are swinger sites and very few of the profiles mention bdsm in any way, shape or form - even in cloaked terms.

juliet



MstrssPassion -> RE: BDSM and Swinging.....Anyone Else Out There? (5/27/2007 10:22:27 AM)

I've attended a few events where there has been a mixed crowd or a single venue that caters to both of the two "lifestyle" groups, so they do exist. I've noticed that it is far more common to find swingers that will pick up a few topping skills from the fetish-D/s group rather than find dominants & submissives who cross-over into swinging. The events that I attended that were more fetish-D/s related had a few swingers that came in just to learn about some of the play styles that were exhibited & so long as they curtailed theirs, everyone got along just fine.

Unfortunately, the places I know of are in Florida so that won't be much help to you.



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