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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:46:36 PM   
maybemaybenot


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

       Fair use?  Hell, those files could easily be commercial clip art and one file is ID'd as having been created by Loki.  Do they pay him in submissives, do you think?



You might be on to something there. Where is that Fuckintroll, so we can ask him.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:47:56 PM   
TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: minnetar

the site is sued and you are too.




        OK.  They can have every penny I've earned by having it next to my posts.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:49:22 PM   
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If anyone is concerned, please take the time to review copyright laws.  The owner of the site would be responsible for allowing use of copyrighted material on their site, not the users.  The users would be responsible if they took the work from this site and used it elsewhere without the site's permission.  There are many images, such as Logos and stock photography that artists grant blanket permission for anyone to use.  They do this for multiple reasons, Logos and such promote advertising that they do not have to pay for when used by others, they are pleased when their logos are used.  Artists who upload stock photography usually do so for other reasons, because they are particularly pleased with the art and want others to view it as often as possible, or to showcase their work.  In any event, the imagery here belongs to CollarMe.  If for any reason CollarMe 'stole' artwork from someone without the artists consent then CollarMe would be liable even if we are using it, because....we are using it on CollarMe's site. 


are You an attorney giving legal advice?  i believe you are incorrect as i believe both parties would be liable.

minnetar

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:51:09 PM   
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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:51:21 PM   
Domin8tingUrDrmz


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Status: offline 		I am studying and I have worked in the printing industry for a number of years where I had to be familiar with copyright law.  If you think I am misinforming people, feel free to look up the laws yourself and correct me.  I'd be happy to apologize if infact I am mistaken.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:51:33 PM   
maybemaybenot


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ORIGINAL: minnetar

Rich,
This is serious.  i think it is funny how we trust others and they are totally in the wrong. my concern was blown off

minnetar


Yes, Rich tread lightly here. I am on block, personana non grata so to speak. You don't want to be assumed to be a friend of mine. I am an asshole.
Given that minnetar choses not to be able to read my entire posts, I find it odd she can have any opinion what so ever about anyone's response to me.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:52:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		      Honestly, Minnetar, given that the state I live in has no provisions for consensual battery or assault with a deadly weapon, if I was going to lose sleep over the possibility of being prosecuted, it wouldn't be for a no-profit copyright infringement.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:53:23 PM   
minnetar


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Status: offline 		i appreciate Your opinion.  Why not contact the artist who  You used in the avatar and see if they have given permission for use of it?  Wouldn't that basically solve the issue? 

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:54:02 PM   
maybemaybenot


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ORIGINAL: Domin8tingUrDrmz

If anyone is concerned, please take the time to review copyright laws.  The owner of the site would be responsible for allowing use of copyrighted material on their site, not the users.  The users would be responsible if they took the work from this site and used it elsewhere without the site's permission.  There are many images, such as Logos and stock photography that artists grant blanket permission for anyone to use.  They do this for multiple reasons, Logos and such promote advertising that they do not have to pay for when used by others, they are pleased when their logos are used.  Artists who upload stock photography usually do so for other reasons, because they are particularly pleased with the art and want others to view it as often as possible, or to showcase their work.  In any event, the imagery here belongs to CollarMe.  If for any reason CollarMe 'stole' artwork from someone without the artists consent then CollarMe would be liable even if we are using it, because....we are using it on CollarMe's site. 


Thanx for that info. Makes alot of sense, since I travel to many a MB and see plenty of avatars that are not originals.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:55:21 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		       Yeah.  I may wind up just 'assigning her an avatar' in the near future. 

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:55:54 PM   
Domin8tingUrDrmz


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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:56:02 PM   
minnetar


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Status: offline 		Rich,

i have tons of friends who are professional artists who take exception to the use of their art.  Yes they post it online but that doesn't give us a right to use it.  i believe it is totally unfair for you to feel it is a joke as this is the way they make money and earn a living.  You want to use art then ask them.  my avatar on yahoo was drawn for me individually. 

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:59:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

http://www.collarchat.com/m_187475/mpage_1/tm.htm#187475

Submitting avatars for collarme message boards.


Thank you, BBBTBW!

By the way, I love the quote in your signature! 
(Totally off the topic here, I'm trying to properly pre-shrink some cotton to make a "Dread Pirate Roberts" shirt for myself.)

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 9:59:51 PM   
minnetar


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There is NO issue to solve. 


i gave you a simple solution.  Do you know who the artist is that you use for an avatar?  Did you ask them permission to use it on a bdsm forum?  Very simple.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 10:01:43 PM   
Domin8tingUrDrmz


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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 10:02:21 PM   
TheHeretic


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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 10:07:02 PM   
minnetar


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Status: offline 		roflmao i read it and clicked on the link.  i approached mod 11 about the illegal use of art.  She never sent me the link or had anything to justify the use  of it.  Yall are intelligent.  You are responsible for what you do not the site.  Based on my confrontation and her response the site doesn't care.  Like i said previously.  There are avatars on here by an artist who requires a license for their use. If they had received permission when i confronted mod 11, wouldn't she have told me so?

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 10:10:11 PM   
Domin8tingUrDrmz


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Status: offline 		If what you say is true, your friend could sue CollarMe.  However, even if I used your friend's work, thinking it belonged to CollarMe, your friend would not win a suit against me.  That simple.  Believe what you want, I have the law on my side .

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 10:12:00 PM   
minnetar


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    Click the link, Minnetar.


By the way Rich, think about how many artists want to be associated with a bdsm site and allow the use of their art.

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RE: If you post often.. - 5/26/2007 10:13:34 PM   
minnetar


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ORIGINAL: Domin8tingUrDrmz

If what you say is true, your friend could sue CollarMe.  However, even if I used your friend's work, thinking it belonged to CollarMe, your friend would not win a suit against me.  That simple.  Believe what you want, I have the law on my side .


lmao you have used it illegally  - both parties are responsible.  Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

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