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What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/30/2007 8:09:05 PM   
GoddessParis


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Status: offline 		Can anyone explain to me what an Edwardian Lifestyle slave is??
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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/30/2007 8:23:04 PM   
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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/30/2007 8:32:28 PM   
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Basically, it looks like the victorian stuff except for less focused on men being the masters. Of course, that was just from a 2 minute google search, so there's probably more to it.

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/30/2007 8:36:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Edwardian era was from 1901 to just before WWI (i.e. during the reign of King Edward whatevernumber).  More often you see references to "Victorian" lifestyle  - sort of a more formal setting, with subs in servant roles.   There's not a lot of information out there on the bdsm lifestyle tie-in, so you can go to source information for the era and corrupt it to what works for you.

There's also a couple DVDs you can get that'll give you a good idea - Manor House (PBS), The Duchess of Duke Street (BBC) and Upstairs, Downstairs (BBC) directly relate to the Edwardian era (although they're often mistakenly attributed to the Victorian era).

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 3:33:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Edwardian era was the last period to be named after a British Monarch. There was a very rigid hierarchy during this period, and the dvds mentioned show just how rigid society in the UK was. After the death of Edward VII in 1910 King George took to the throne, there had already been a Georgian period with kings George I, II and III. The first world war brought about great changes as soldiers returning from the trenches demanded greater parity.
As MsSonnetMarwood rightly advises, the dvds mentioned are a fine example of how Edwardian households were run.


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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 6:44:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yea .. our very own English historian.. I love it.    Now you should be able to teach other submissives about formal tea service ??

<just kidding>  Had to tease you this morning


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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 7:15:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the help! 
I had read of someone offer themselves, and was dumb founded when he said his natural role was as a Edwardian Slave, something I had never heard of.

I will look into the DVD's

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 7:39:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		The slave in question should probably clarify for you.   However, what he may be looking for is some sort of butler/footman type role in a strict BDSM household atmosphere.

There's a great book kicking around called "The Rise and Fall of the Victorian Servant" by Pamela Horn which is a historical work studying servants.  There's a great chapter on the different type of specific servants with descriptions of what their duties would typically include.  The book is out of print last time I checked, but it's not difficult finding used copies through amazon.com.  There's actually a lot of books on the subject of servants of that era although most aren't still in print - I probably have a dozen or more myself.  There's also a couple books out now that provide info about a contemporary butlers and servants if you look.

The interesting thing (for service geeks anyway) is that during that era, the hierarchy of servants was actually very strict in a larger household.  The movie Gosford Park is a great illustration of this, as is the previously mentioned PBS series Manor House.  You just didn't ask the butler to do anything that falls under the hallboy's duties - it would have been deeply insulting to him.  Having male servants - butler, footmen, etc - was a status symbol, particularly if that servant was good looking and tall.  There were what was refered to as a "tweeny" or a "maid of all work", which would always have been a woman, and whose duties would be clearly defined as basically responsible for everything - this was more typical of the middle class household that would only have one or two servants. 


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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 9:37:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes indeed even the servants had a rigid structure, Some country homes had dozens of servants all with a set job to do. The head Butler had overall control of running the house, the housekeeper was in charge of the female servants though. My great grandfather was a woodsman ( no sniggering at the back ) to Queen Victoria at Windsor Castle. My Gran was a maid at Lambeth Palace, home of the ArchBishop of Canterbury.

Here is a link which gives a little insight into a Victorian household.
http://www.leightonhall.co.uk/schools/schoolshistory/servants.htm

i would be no good as a tea boy though as i hate the stuff, any one offering could bring me coffee and toast in the mornings though...

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 9:40:13 AM   
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Yea .. our very own English historian.. I love it.    Now you should be able to teach other submissives about formal tea service ??

<just kidding>  Had to tease you this morning



Hi MissHarlet, sadly i have yet to learn if the tea or the milk goes in the cup first.
Ah to be teased in the mornings, what joy it gives a boy.


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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 9:45:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are hundreds of kinds of teas; it's just a matter of finding the ones you enjoy.   For example, if I'd only been served lapsang souchong, I'd assume I hated tea too.  I'm probably going to stop at a tea place in Annapolis today for a gift for a friend who loves green tea - they have these marvelous "flowers" of tied tea leaves.   You drop one into a pitcher of boiling water, and it opens up like a flower - really beautiful.  And of course makes a great green tea.

Besides.  Who can resist finger sandwiches and shortbread?  ;-)

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 9:46:29 AM   
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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 9:48:29 AM   
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Hi MissHarlet, sadly i have yet to learn if the tea or the milk goes in the cup first.
Ah to be teased in the mornings, what joy it gives a boy.




Geek time again.

Porcelain was extremely expensive and in more frugal households, milk was added to the cup first so that the hot tea didn't crack the cup.  Of course, that was a very pedestrian/middle class thing to do - the upper class wouldn't have dreamed of adding the milk first - it was a show of wealth because it showed they could afford to buy new porcelain.

Today?  Tea goes in first, then milk to taste.  Only, of course, if milk is appropriate for that kind of tea.

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 9:57:17 AM   
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Can anyone explain to me what an Edwardian lifestyle slave is?



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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 12:58:29 PM   
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http://www.butlerschool.com/links.htm

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 5:33:52 PM   
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Rent Upstairs Downstairs, perhaps that will help.


You might also look for Manor House, a PBS reality show about modern folks trying to cope in the Edwardian milieu.

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 10:28:15 PM   
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I found this website to be very interesting. Click on the "other" tab to find helpful tips and wonderful ways to improve your service.
 
http://www.butlerschool.com/links.htm


Sigh... so much to learn and so little time remaining to spread between various commitments.  What's a hard working sub to do?
 
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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 5/31/2007 10:30:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is a fantasy era to recreate - ohh the clothing and the rigid structure for servitude...

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RE: What is Edwardian Lifestyle - 6/1/2007 1:39:13 AM   
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