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No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/21/2005 9:25:34 PM

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/21/2005 9:52:39 PM

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Your X master was full of crap. I know plenty of people sub slave or other wise who's strait. What you orent as has generally nothing to do with sexual gender preferances.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/21/2005 10:23:49 PM

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Having sex with someone doesn't mean that's what you are oriented as.

No owned slave can use their sexual orientation as a reason to not provide service to someone- sexual or otherwise.

But just because a woman goes down on a woman doesn't mean she's bi or lesbian, it means she's going down on a woman.

Actions do not equate to orientation.

If a sub wants to make certain types of service or acts "out of bounds" or "hard limits" thats perfectly acceptable to establish, but again, nothing to do with one's actual orientation, and more with what services the person is ok with.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/21/2005 10:26:49 PM

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Oh, I think that is quite wrong. I am very straight. I'm not a Sissy, or anything like that. But being submissive is a part of who I am. I have high goals, and sometimes I need someone to bring me back down to earth.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/21/2005 11:18:21 PM

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It's often said D/s can transcend sexuality and the slave no longer has the choice of, nor can readily apply a sexuality upon themselves, as they become whatever their Master/Mistress wants them to be. .. and if I wanted a slave to engage bi-sexually or hetrosexually, the gender of either participants becomes irrelevant, engaging sexually with others would become part and parcel of serving me...

So yes, I agree in principal.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/21/2005 11:19:40 PM

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i am a straight submissive but my Master would like for me to at least once be with another woman. i am willing to do this because it is His wish, but i am in no way sexually attracted to women. me doing that for Him does not make me not straight at all. i hope that helps.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/22/2005 5:40:46 AM

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I disagree wth the premise in the OP. I believe that to be bisexual one must be sexually attracted to both genders. I am not. I am a slave. My Master can, and at some point will, require me to have sex with another woman. I will do so. That will not change the fact that I am straight. I may, hopefully, get pleasure from such an encounter and, I would contend, that still will not mean that I am not straight. It will not automatically mean that I suddenly am attracted to women. All it will mean is l am able to accept pleasure, regardless of the source.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/22/2005 6:02:47 AM

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I always worry when someone says that something applies to ALL subs or ALL dominants. It simply isn't true.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/22/2005 8:27:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: slavewoman

I disagree wth the premise in the OP. I believe that to be bisexual one must be sexually attracted to both genders. I am not. I am a slave. My Master can, and at some point will, require me to have sex with another woman. I will do so. That will not change the fact that I am straight. I may, hopefully, get pleasure from such an encounter and, I would contend, that still will not mean that I am not straight. It will not automatically mean that I suddenly am attracted to women. All it will mean is l am able to accept pleasure, regardless of the source.

The thing is...most sights don't give an option to identify as heteroflexible....so coming down to bisexual or straight...it can be confusing to select either. Why oh why don't they list heteroflexible as an option in the profile section??? Would clarify things so much better.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/22/2005 8:40:29 AM

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What Emerald said.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/22/2005 10:29:29 AM

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Actions do not equate to orientation.

Exactly. I have most of my boys engage in some sort of homoerotic activity. They would absolutely never do it if it wasn't under my command or to please me.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/22/2005 3:17:40 PM

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From the view of a male slave, I agree with the view that, acts dont dictate sexuality.

My Mistress has expressed her desire to have me perform with another man. I dont mind this, because I know that she will enjoy this, and thats what makes me happy.
If she didnt ask me to do this, It would probably never happen, I dont find any sexual attraction to men, only the possibility of variety.

I suppose when it comes down to it, its all about how secure you are with your sexuality to put such childish worries away. Just be sexual, not straight, not bi, not gay, etc.
Do what you want, when you want, for whatever reason you want, and not worry about what groupd you fit into.

I would do anything for Mistress, and she appreciates that. Thats all I need to make up my mind.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/23/2005 4:27:51 PM

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As many have already mentioned. To each their own. The dynamics differ from couple to couple.
I serve no one but my dom. I'm hetero. Although with a few of my gay friends you may think otherwise if you saw us out for the evening.

Apparently that alleged dom is not the one for you if you have issues with it.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/23/2005 4:40:18 PM

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I don't agree with this at all. I'm a submissive, and I'm straight. Having sex with another woman is a hard limit for me.

And as has already been said, having sex with the same sex to please someone else, ot because you're obeying an order, does not make you gey or bi. I agree that sexual orientation pertains to who you enjoy being with, not just the physical act.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/23/2005 7:49:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lepidoptera

...this is something my former Master told me. At the time I agreed, but having been on the forums I know there are a lot of things that certain slaves/subs are not okay with, and having sex with the same (or opposite) sex might be one of them.

Thoughts?

i happen to enjoy the cock.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 5/24/2005 1:05:17 AM

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I have never desired to have sex with a man,
Great friends always open to.

My Domina and Myself are Lesbian and never would she
ask me to endure such an act, just for her pleasure...
Thank the Goddesses....

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 6/2/2005 12:19:20 AM

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EmeraldSlave2 & KarbonCopy

I think you captured the essence of my opinion.

If sex with either same sex or opposite sex persons (depending on your orientation) is off limits to you, then you should include it in your hard limit list.

I totally agree that actions do not equate to orientation.

I think of bi-sexual as someone who would get into a relationship with either gender (not just sex); heterosexual as someone who would get into a relationship with opposite gender; and homosexual ... someone who would get into a relationship with the same gender.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 6/2/2005 12:58:09 AM

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i am a submissive, and i am straight in sexual orientation, am also monogamous in sexual orientation. i engage in nonsexual play and service with both genders, however my play and or service is never sexual, it is one of my hard limits, i do not share my body sexually with others. If and when i am collared, if She wishes She may enjoy of that part of me i reserve for Her, that will be Her choice, however it will mean that She will have to be monogamous with me, i an able to serve and play and be collared without sex with Her, and She can enjoy the comforts of a lover or sexual partner and still own me, i can share my Domme, i can not share my lover.
For many D/s is sexual foreplay or sexual play, poly is a well accepted and well respected institution amongst the kinky crowd, but again that is a choice Y/you make, to accept that behavior or not, for some it is integral to this world, for others, and i know a few, nonsexual play is the way W/we play and live.
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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 6/2/2005 6:11:45 AM

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I agree that actions do not mean that you are gay or bi. My Master knows this is one of my hard limits right now, but has expressed that in the future (far future) this may change, and He would like to see me with another woman. At the time though, He knows that I cannot do this, and He will not make me do it to please him. For Him, I have to be enjoying it also. Just make sure that you make it known that this is a hard limit for you.

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RE: No sub/slave can be straight... - 6/7/2005 4:04:32 PM

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...this is something my former Master told me. At the time I agreed, but having been on the forums I know there are a lot of things that certain slaves/subs are not okay with, and having sex with the same (or opposite) sex might be one of them.

Thoughts?
as a male, i have performed bi for my Mistress, but it does not make me bi, nor gay doing so.
no, it is not one of my favs.
but, then cleaning up after a baby or a dog that threw up isn't either.
there are many times things that are performed just out of dedication...whether ya wanna or like it or not.

it's part of the d/s.

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p/s i am a slave and i am straight...just for the record!

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