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Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 1:16:26 AM   
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I am very proactive in what I write, and when given the opportunity in real life, can be much much worse, if you can call that worse. But is it ?

Do people enjoy their problems or their victim status so much that the things I write are unwelcome ? Do people like the world as it is so much that I should just shutup and confine myself to other areas of discussion, like bondage chairs or some such.

Are things that good ? Are things such that they couldn't be better, or couldn't be worse ? Which is it ?

Am I so goddamn good that I post and nobody has any response, and instead a few will quote each other ad infinitum about other things until the thread is wrecked ? Are you that adversarial, and if so, are you afraid of me ?

You'll quote and quote, trying to prove each other wrong with shit from bumfuckt Egypt somewhere and not even rebut the point. Is the fight worth more than the original point ?

It really appears to be to me. You quote ad NAUSEAUM, this is ridiculous, I see a thread has 134 posts and think maybe there is another person on here wants to discuss something, instead I find people picking each others' statements apart word by word almost.

Is that what you are fucking here for ? Are you the type to cut someone off on the highway and say "as long as I get totally in front of them it will be their fault when they rearend me" ? Is that what I am dealing with here ?

You said this, you said that, all fucking day long. Quote quote quote, I don't even fucking know how to quote, that is old Usenet shit, these posts are presented in chronicalogical order. Geez. If I quote I use Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V. I don't even want to know how you put it in the boxes, then some of you put your reponses right in there, seperated only by text color, not even a line feed.

I am starting to think that some need to avoid the real issues so much they nitpick, and for some, well that is all they can do. Sorry. But if that is the norm here, I have no desire to waste my time.

If I ever believed in anything, it is getting to the crux of the matter, the heart of the problem. Doesn't anyone think about that anymore ?

I need a beer.

T
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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 1:24:00 AM   
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Might help if we knew what it is you're referring to? Surely every conversation on here that you've ever had hasn't been this way?And if you feel that it has one would indeed wonder why it is you continue.Just my two cents,no disrepect intended. 

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 1:24:13 AM   
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quote:

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I need a beer.


My friend, I would consider laying off of them for the rest of this evening.

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 1:50:33 AM   
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In relation to the politics threads, that's not far wide of the mark.

See any global warming thread for an example - threads are bombarded by posts from people who don't have the first clue about the subject matter. Other tactics include reducing threads to the meaning of a word in an attempt to lose the concept of the discussion.

I have a feeling, though, that when you stated the "real issues" you meant something different.

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 4:49:12 AM   
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I for one- finally got some payback here at home. the past 3 days my parrot woke me at 5 am hooting and hallaring. well- guess who is up early THIS monring, hooting and halloraing????


hehehe

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 5:12:41 AM   
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Hmm..I really do not know you, which is odd given the number of posts you have... For me that would suggest that rather than you being 'so fucking right' or even so fucking wrong... there has just not been anything in the bulk of your posts which has made me take notice, either for content or thrust... I do not know.

I used to get really bent when the OP was derailed.  The thing is,  as LA pointed out to me once (to my initial irritation hehe) it usually gets derailed for a reason.... a point comes up which is either elemental to something that is a motivation behind the subject of the post, or people say things (sparked by the idea of the post) which bring out very 'remarkable' reactions.

Either way... just as in face to face conversation... facile minds often do not just stubbornly stick to a box-like rigidity in conversation... it is fluid and will wander here and there and often get back to the original thought at some point.

(I  will give you that there are obvious hijackings... which I have participated in... and usually that happens when the thread is so lame or repetitive or even so insulting that the defusing of a hijack is the BEST course of action.  There are also people who revert, as NothernGent pointed out, to debasing or obfuscating when they can not actually support thier point of view with any validity.... if you can not show them the facts of the matter, I suggest you just ignore them.)

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 5:15:43 AM   
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Perhaps you need to masturbate the parrot.

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 5:16:55 AM   
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it is ad nauseam (as in nausea) if that makes any difference.

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 5:42:03 AM   
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quote:

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Perhaps you need to masturbate the parrot.

Ron


Ain't this the incredible wanking parrot? or did I miss the trail of a thread at some point. I'm sure PA had/has a parrot intent on wanking itself into a coma.

PA, I can't believe you haven't wrung the fuckin' thing's neck by now.

Hi Puella, personally, I don't see anything wrong with a thread changing course providing it's still a discussion rather than death by dictionary references and the meaning of words/phrases like "oft-cited"........."Yeah, I meant often referenced"....."why didn't you say that, then"....."didn't think it was important, why did you put a sentence in itallics in post 69 of the plant growing thread when any reasonable person would have highlighted it?"....."mind your own, pal, nothing to do with you"......"see, you can't answer me, you avoid me because you're running scared and everyone else knows it"......then someone of similar ilk will come in with a post along the lines of "The World is Square!" and attach a link from the High Priests Commission of Armageddon Advocates..."see?!, do you now fuckin' see?! eh? I've been saying this all along".

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 5:54:33 AM   
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Hahaha!

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 6:20:43 AM   
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You post exclusively in the Casual Banter section of the site. I see only one single post that was not. My question to you is why come to a fetish site to talk politics? Not that you aren't free to do so; just seems to me that if that is your primary interest, there are much better forums to get into such debates than CollarMe.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 5/31/2007 10:28:17 PM   
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NG, that was brilliant. I expressed how hostile some people seem here, and I don't think most of them are. The negativity shows.

Somebody uses the wrong word and there is a post, quotes their post, picks it apart and points out anything that would enable them to say "YOU ARE WRONG I AM RIGHT HAHA". Can't people be right while pointing out maybe some wrong, but not taking the advantage ?

Tell you all something I learned a LONG time ago, and I can put it into the proper words, and I shall do so for you now.

Stupid people want to prove their intelligence, and this is precisely why they stay stupid.

Really I do not see it in a favorable light, but life is life.

T

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 6/1/2007 1:25:50 AM   
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Termyn8or,
 
I am going to be blunt here, sometimes your posts are pretty easy
to understand and sometimes you completely loose me way before
the end.  Not sure how much beer consumption goes into your writing,
but that may have sometime to do with the wandering
thought patterns.
 
Be well,
 
Vendaval
 

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 6/7/2007 7:33:08 AM   
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I'm not sure who is being referred to with "all of your posts are in the casual banter...", but that is not true of me. You'll see me in bondage gear and health and safety if you look.

Those categories are not as fast moving as these, and it is not I who writes every single post in casual banter, so let's be watching for pot-ishness before speaking of the kettle's color. Casual banter is the fastest moving section of collarchat. All of us make it that way.

Perhaps there is so much political discussion because people care ? Perhaps we go to our other categories and find that nobody replied today, hit humor real quick and then wind up here or in off topic.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, but there is nothing wrong with that. When you throw something out there, it will probably get read. Hell, I started one that said "Do not read", did anybody listen ? Hell no.

Perhps we could have a look at how many posts someone STARTS, but that proves nothing, I am pretty sure I have started more threads in casual banter, but you can catch someone's eye and something that wasn't an issue a millisecond ago becomes one.

And there is one other thing, I was kinda talking about how radical I am at times, and it is not alcohol. I really am radical, I just adapt to coexist with the rest of society. But now the thread isn't just about me anymore, boo hoo. I didn't come here to be alone. In fact sometimes I post here with a roomful of people. I don't try to hide too much from my friends anymore.

My rl friends have been filtered through my judgement of their worthiness.

But what filter applies to my CM friends ? Hard knocks of life. First you have a kink to hide, then you get the gumption to find others like you, open up, learn and grow. Eventually you get tired of the secrecy and take risks, and let some of your closer friends know things you would never tell a while ago, you find out who is real and who is not.

Eventually you just get upfront like, yeah when everybody leaves I get into a bra and panties, or, yup that's a real chastity belt, or, yup I tie her up and rape her every night and she loves the fuck out of it. (of course revealing anything involving another requires their consent)

I think many of us have reached a point in our lives where we need to know who our friends really are. I think many of us have learned alot about what is really important in life. Most of us are no longer fooled by religion or propoganda.

That is the CM filter. Natural selection, those attracted to such a site. When I first came here I came to discuss bondage of course. But then I found that people had opinions on other things. Reading OT thinking to myself 'damn right, damn right', and 'Hmmm, some of these people are pretty fuckin cool'.

But I doubt anyone here is as radical as me, and that was the point. Some people don't quite get it. If I put up a post saying that 80% of the population should die, many people might think 'hmmm, hubby and me and our three kids, that means statistically one of us would die', but that is not what I meant.

But think of it, FIVE TIMES the natural resources for each and every one of us. For lack of a better term, many people find it impossible to think 'outside the box'. I step back, possibly outside of myself and I see the problem, it is simple, there are too many people. And there is no end in sight.

But then taking another step back I see that this is the natural progression of the life cycle of a species and I regret to inform you that we are nearing the end. I am not on the streetcorner with a sign, but I can see the real sign. This is nothing biblical at all, it has nothing to do with religion.

This has to do with my observations of human behavior, and politics, and sociology. Primitives survived without the advent of ny infrastructure or technology. Some people today would die if their cellphone battery ran out. You get water by turning a valve, they might walk a mile to get water, at eight pounds a gallon, and carry it home manually, no car, no nuthing.

So I submit that the human race is devolving, and I also say that this is natural. Compare it to a human life.

You are born, you know nothing. They diaper you and put you in a bed with rails because you can't control yourself. As you grow you learn, you achieve, then you retire. In the waning years you start forgetting things, you start getting cranky. Eventually you lose control and again you are in a bed with rails.

This was explained to me by a Black Man in jail, and I really have no argument against it. He also said that not having good posture is bad for your heart. He said "Look where your heart is, if you slump it puts pressure on it". Hmmmmmm. I have no argument against that either.

Now I applied the former theory to the life of our species, and if you look around, it is hard to refute. Look at what people do.

Like the words in my song :

You'd be better off dead,
Than to fill your head,
With the people bullshit buys,
The people bullshit buys

All these ipods, snazzy new computer games, nine channel home theaters with a seven foot screen, all bullshit. All bullshit. Who could survive without electricity ? I mean survive. Can you heat your house without it ? Can you get water without it ? Can you get food without it ? Can you get shelter without it ?

Go build a building without it, when you hire the guys at the union hall they will laugh so hard they might get a hernia. Then they can't go to the well and get water either. And firplaces are no longer in vogue, so I guess you need the grill inside for heat ?

Nowadays your oven won't work without electricity, neither will your furnace. And if you got kids and no TV all the sudden, you got problems. Even if they are not completely addicted to the boob tube there will still be withdrawal symptoms.

And I must admit to being one of those people bullshit bought. Noone in my rl is really intelligent enough to handle what I have to say. A few come close, but don't quite get it.

We are devolving, I got so much proof. We are getting old as a species. That doesn't mean the end of the world in X years or anything like that. I have no prediction on that. I know if there aren't enough wars we will starve. I know that if the current trend continues we might not have to worry about that as well.

So a real fix for the problem would be very drastic, like a quintuple bypass and some serious amputations, for the entire species. The species has to decide if they want to live or die.

That is about as radical as it gets. Now who wants to play god ?

T

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 6/7/2007 9:13:22 AM   
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I am very proactive in what I write, and when given the opportunity in real life, can be much much worse, if you can call that worse. But is it ?  Huh, What?

Do people enjoy their problems or their victim status so much that the things I write are unwelcome ?  To what are you referring? Do people like the world as it is so much that I should just shutup and confine myself to other areas of discussion, like bondage chairs or some such. Who rattled your chain?  I thought we wanted you to shut up.

Are things that good ? Are things such that they couldn't be better, or couldn't be worse ? Which is it ?  Huh what?

Am I so goddamn good that I post and nobody has any response, and instead a few will quote each other ad infinitum about other things until the thread is wrecked ? Are you that adversarial, and if so, are you afraid of me ?  Ah..the meat...you are pissed because no one chooses to banter with you, but will others?  Aww...an ego problem...*stroke stroke*

You'll quote and quote, trying to prove each other wrong with shit from bumfuckt Egypt somewhere and not even rebut the point. Is the fight worth more than the original point ?   Wait...you just complained no one bantered with you..so bantering with you is ok, but not with others?

It really appears to be to me. You quote ad NAUSEAUM, this is ridiculous, I see a thread has 134 posts and think maybe there is another person on here wants to discuss something, instead I find people picking each others' statements apart word by word almost.   If you don't like it, leave.  seems simple to me.

Is that what you are fucking here for ? Are you the type to cut someone off on the highway and say "as long as I get totally in front of them it will be their fault when they rearend me" ? Is that what I am dealing with here ?  Nope, I don't drive and type.

You said this, you said that, all fucking day long. Quote quote quote, I don't even fucking know how to quote, that is old Usenet shit, these posts are presented in chronicalogical order. Geez. If I quote I use Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V. I don't even want to know how you put it in the boxes, then some of you put your reponses right in there, seperated only by text color, not even a line feed.   Awww...I'm sorry your computer skills are lacking.  Maybe if you be nice someone will teach you.

I am starting to think that some need to avoid the real issues so much they nitpick, and for some, well that is all they can do. Sorry. But if that is the norm here, I have no desire to waste my time.   When did internet forums become a basis for "real issues"?  I debate those with people who matter to me...not a bunch of people all over the world with whom I have no real personal connection.  It's fun to banter...I love banter here...

If I ever believed in anything, it is getting to the crux of the matter, the heart of the problem. Doesn't anyone think about that anymore ?  Yep..but not on internet forums.

I need a beer.  Sounds like you've had 10 or 12 already.

T  



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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 6/7/2007 9:23:12 AM   
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LOL earthycouple... you go Ma'am

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RE: Perhaps I am a bit too much - 6/7/2007 9:57:10 PM   
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Internet forums are EXACTLY the place this should happen.

I have read, I understood what you said. Agree ? you got a way to go.

I guess that was sort of a rant. But it is true. I am not talking peoples' misbehavior here only, I am talking life in general. It is peoples' tendencies that do this.

Perhaps I am a bit too much.

T

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