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NakedOnMyChain -> "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 8:35:56 AM)

Have you noticed that most, if not all, ancient depictions of women, done in any medium, don't depict armpit hair?  Think about all those Greek and Roman statues of voluptuous women with their arms raised languorously, all the paintings of women lounging in fields with their lovers.  Nothing, nadda, zip.  Not one tiny stray strand.  Women shaving their armpits is a fairly modern nicety.  I know that if I was a lady of old, no one would be getting some rusty dull knife anywhere near my skin for beautification.  So what happened to all that ancient armpit hair?  Were women a hairless breed pre-Christ?  Did a giant meteor hit and its radiation make all the armpit hair fall out?  Where did it all go, damnit?



philosophy -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 8:42:40 AM)

...illegal immigrants stole the pit hair from the paintings to make roofs for their hovels..........



szobras -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 8:47:30 AM)

Hello NakedOnMyChain,
Though armpit hair was certainly present on females in ancient cultures, Many such as Egyptian and Greek, had adopted the the idea of regarding the hairless female body as a standard of beauty. Also a seperation of the masculine from the feminine.Art depiction in these cultures was very much focused of the "whole" or perfect human in thier eyes. A good example is the Egyptian figure. No one stands, or walks like that, though the intention is to be able to show the entire or "whole" human in it's depiction.
I hope this helps to answere your question.



philosophy -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 8:55:55 AM)

<fast reply>

.....a less flip response following a lil googling shows this line...
"Both Greeks and Romans generally practiced the removal of all body hair, at least when young. "
...from this rather long article.. http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/love-in-the-arts/ovid.html



domiguy -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 9:01:59 AM)

Hmmmmm....Interesting topic.....I also have been wondering why it is that the words of Jesus, his doings and his life have been translated into about every language on the planet....Yet I have been unable to find, in all of these writings, one description of his cock.  Odd isn't it?



LightHeartedMaam -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 9:05:56 AM)

It  was harvested and sold to the ancient order of "Locks of Love"



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 9:27:35 AM)

Actually it's really only his birth and about 5 years total of his life which anyone wrote or pays much attention to.



Lordandmaster -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 10:09:51 AM)

Hard to improve on that answer.

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ORIGINAL: szobras

Though armpit hair was certainly present on females in ancient cultures, Many such as Egyptian and Greek, had adopted the the idea of regarding the hairless female body as a standard of beauty. Also a seperation of the masculine from the feminine.Art depiction in these cultures was very much focused of the "whole" or perfect human in thier eyes. A good example is the Egyptian figure. No one stands, or walks like that, though the intention is to be able to show the entire or "whole" human in it's depiction.



NakedOnMyChain -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 11:09:50 AM)

Thanks for the reply.  I had figured that it had something to do with that.  I knew that Greek and Roman cultures embraced the hairless ideal, but I wasn't sure what women actually did with their unsightly arm tresses.  (I really like euphemisms.)  I found it odd that a culture would embrace something in art that their women didn't attempt to practice in actuality.  If Roman men shaved their faces, it is possible that women shaved their armpits.  However, it's illogical in that getting a knife under your arms is more difficult than getting one on your face with the use of a mirror.



szobras -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 11:31:48 AM)

Given specific time periods, yes they did "shave" also. I also have seen a few examples of Statuary with pubic hair.
Exceptions to every rule, based on time period and the artist. Many ideas presented throughout artistic expression had also not matured yet as the total idea of the times. Rennaisance art is a fine example of how ideas and the human perspective changed, are expressed through art, though not adapted as an idea by a complete society.



windchymes -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 11:48:41 AM)

I've read somewhere in years past that some cultures used a sort of "threading" technique, where they'd take a thread or maybe two and twist them quickly over the hairy parts, which would yank the hairs out.  Sort of a medieval Epilady, lol.   Also, they did a sort of waxing technique using a hot honey/sugar/beeswax mixture and cloths. 

We've been suffering for beauty since the beginning of time [;)]



fairerthanshe -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 11:50:53 AM)

You can have threading done in almost every salon nowadays.  It is very much back in fashion so to speak.  I know of a slave who makes her own wax with brown sugar and honey.  She swears by it.

fairer



NakedOnMyChain -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 12:38:27 PM)

We have a threading booth at my local mall.  I've heard it hurts like hell.  (Which would make sense since it's technically ripping hair out.)

Edited to add:  I just got done tweezing my eyebrows.  Oh the burn!  Why do we do this?



darkinshadows -> RE: "Historical Hair" or "Where Have All the Armbushes Gone?" (5/31/2007 12:41:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe

You can have threading done in almost every salon nowadays.  It is very much back in fashion so to speak.  I know of a slave who makes her own wax with brown sugar and honey.  She swears by it.

fairer


Ah - but will she share the receipe?[:)]
 
Peace and Rapture



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