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singsweetly4U -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/2/2007 11:32:48 PM)

sheesh it took you 5 hours to wank? i figured you'd be a minute man with a start like that.....

i have a rather nice set of breasts, and i like nipple torture alright, but it's not the whole of what i am or what i like to do. my Master likes my WHOLE body, including the part that actually counts, my brain. oh, and there's this little thing called a personality.....apparently the instant you develop a nice rack that goes away to......

~rachel, property of MiSC2~



ennaozzie -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 12:10:10 AM)

Reckon you have come up with a few ways already, keep thinking.

beanie



charlestonscmilk -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 6:03:28 AM)

I love my breasts too. I am a "J" cup... I do hate the way some men talk to them, or think I am stupid or easy because of them. I have had men ask me what my breasts weigh? Who weighs their breasts?!? I have very often said , "you know, they don't have ears...."
However I really believe in the law of attraction and because I love me and believe in my worth, only men that love the total package that I am approach me anymore. I like tall men over 50 with at least a Master's level education and in general I have been fortunate to attract those kind of men.  
As for erotic lactation, I love the idea of it. however the logistics of it make it a near impossiblitiy.
I am a certified lactation consultant and I can tell you it will take up a lot of your free time for a few months...
But nipple orgasms are a gift from God/JKM....
I would think that the gentleman who started this thread would, if he is really a breast man have better ideas about what to do with them... But one is never too lod to learn!
Peace be!
C



milkmaid42dd -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 7:36:30 AM)

Hey, Stefan! Yes, it's me... and I would LOOOOOOOOOOOVE to have any part opposite Gene Wilder ;) what a sweetie, yum yum!

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

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ORIGINAL: milkmaid42dd

And I'm a Mensan!  see, I'm doomed once again to be ABnormal!!!!!!!  ROFL



Abbie Normal, I thought that was you.  You should have had a bigger part opposite Gene Wilder.

Stefan



aldompdx -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 11:58:34 AM)

This is a pretty sad thread.

We have a bunch of women who hate their bodies, hate the ignorant men who cannot see past it, but define themself by those men. The exact same population of men treat small breasted women in an equally shallow manner. They also treat other men with the same shallow attitude. Why take it personally? SELF DOUBT. It has little to do with the man, who will always give their energy to any physical difference from the average. Do you take it personally when a mosquito bites you? It must be a conspiracy of nature, that you are singled out to be bitten, over and over again. What a victim.

It has everything to do with taking other people's energy personally. People that cannot accept who they really are, forever live in personal turmoil. People who choose not to change those parts of themself which are truly troubling, they are self saboteurs. Either accept your body, or change it. Stop pissing and whining like a helpless victim, who expects the whole world to change just for your benefit.

It goes like this -- "I am a reflection of my body, therefore, I dislike myself." "I depend upon others for validation and esteem, therefore, I am worth less because somebody else focuses their energy on my body instead of my heart." "It is perfectly fine for me to feel an attraction to part of a man (like a dominant ego), but it is wrong for him to feel an attraction to any specific part of me (like his source of nurturing as a baby)." "Breasts define me, but other people do not define themselves by parts of their body or personality, therefore, I am an even more uniquely a victim of my life."

This parallels a typical attitude of one who surrenders as a bargain to feel love. They depend upon another to give them the feeling that actually arises in their own heart. They "surrender" merely as a subconscious manipulation to take love from another. "I am a victim with an empty heart, who is limited to the feelings which another person gives me." "I am an emotional preadator, who seeks a partner that needs me so much they will allow me to feed off their emotional energy."

A person who cannot accept their body or personality, who will not change their body or personality, and whose feelings are controlled by the responses of others to their body or personality -- they also tend to be co-dependent.



hereyesruponyou -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 12:24:05 PM)

Lots of negative judgement there hun. Having a bad day???



Emperor1956 -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 12:52:05 PM)

I'm a bit late to this thread.  But, being out of synch never stopped me in any other realm, so surely not here!

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  Stella40:  Erm, I'm quite busty but this is due to the fact that I'm still using implants whilst my natural breasts develop through hormone therapy. And yes I do have a BIG pair of implants. And they're realistic.

Is this what the OP meant? He didn't say anything about real breasts, did he?

Why, he could play with my breasts and do whatever he likes to them and I don't even have to be in the same room.



I love it, Stella.  Of course, if you are talking the serious objectifier breast fetishist like LA addressed, and of course like our dear OP (who seems to have vanished, how strange) claims he isn't, then a pair of detatched breasts would be PERFECT.  You play with them, tease them, torture them and when you are done, you put them away in the closet with the rest of the fetish gear.

And dear OP, because I was SO impressed with your desire to discuss physiology, psychology and serious, sincere discussions of huge knockers...oh, forgive me, "Busty" submissives, I found this for you.  Wank away!

(Caution:  The following abstracts, even though heavily edited by yours truly to keep out the really, really gross parts, may be offensive to (1) cows (2)  horses (3) persons who lack really intense breast fetishes and (4) ovo-lactic vegetarians.)

BILFs!  (don't ask if you can't figure it out)

From J. Anim. Sci. Vol. 81, Suppl. 1/J. Dairy Sci. Vol. 86, Suppl. 1, p. 155.
 
611 Induced lactation: the need for enhanced mammary
development and differentiation. B. A. Crooker*1415, R. J.
Collier1819, J. L. Vicini2223, M. F. McGrath 2627, andW. J.Weber3031, 3435University
of Minnesota, St. Paul, 3839University of Arizona, Tucson, 4243Monsanto
Agricultural Group, St. Louis, MO.
Induction of lactation has the potential to increase farm profitability through retention of healthy reproductive culls for one or more additional lactations. Of the approximately 1 million dairy cows culled in the US due to reproductive failure each year, about half are healthy and in appropriate condition for another lactation. These potential culls would be retained if they were profitable.  ... More recent efforts to induce lactation have attempted to enhance mammary development
and/or differentiation by intramammary infusion of mammogenic compounds.  Results from a half-udder model indicate intramammary infusion of prostaglandin E2 either enhanced mammary development or differentiation which resulted in increased milk yield from cows induced to lactate. Continued refinement of this technology is warranted and
required before it can be considered as a practical on-farm technology. by current methods to induce lactation. Key Words: Induced lactation, Mammary development, Differentiation
 
And finally:  HOT FRENCH FEMALES AND DRUGS!  Can it get any better?
 
The aim of this study was to compare the effects of treatment with repeated injections of sulpiride (a dopamine D2 antagonist) on prolactin secretion and induced lactation in ovariectomized and intact adult mares and to verify if this induction was possible at the beginning and at the end of the birth season. Two experiments were carried out in September [experiment (expt) 1], and in March (expt 2), in France (48°N).
 
From:  Induced Lactation with a Dopamine Antagonist in Mares: Different Responses between Ovariectomized and Intact Mares  Authors' address (for correspondence): Daniel Guillaume, INRA-CNRS-Université F. Rabelais of Tours Physiology of Reproduction and Behaviour, 37380 Nouzilly, France. E-mail:[email protected] 
 
Might I suggest you write to M. Guillaume for more...dare I say it...titillation?
 
E.

 
 



aldompdx -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 11:01:17 PM)

Negative judgment? Hey, that is how I see some of the posts in this thread. I need not reach a highly rationalized judgment from something so unambiguously expressed. It is blatently obvious to me. Those who took my comments personally only demonstrate my point.

There are also some very positive posts by people who do not feel like a victim of their body and life, and joyfully or peacefully accept all of themself. An excellent example is charlestonscmilk.



juliaoceania -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/3/2007 11:22:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

Negative judgment? Hey, that is how I see some of the posts in this thread. I need not reach a highly rationalized judgment from something so unambiguously expressed. It is blatently obvious to me. Those who took my comments personally only demonstrate my point.

There are also some very positive posts by people who do not feel like a victim of their body and life, and joyfully or peacefully accept all of themself. An excellent example is charlestonscmilk.


Are you that surprised that this society turns out so many women that hold themselves up to some impossible ideal? Come now, you really cannot be shocked by this, can you? You seem to have this judgment about the women that posted in this thread and our negative self images as if this is some sort of abherent psychological maladjustment on our part... which it is, but we are just a reflection of the world at large here on CM.... pretty average in fact. I know of no woman that has had a positive self image for her entire life... NONE. I have had quite a few female friends....

Now that IS sad, but it is hardly unusual, so I do not know why you made the  point on this thread. I have a pretty good self image, and even I have my low points when I look in the mirror at times. My breasts aren't firm enough, there are stretch marks, and then the cellulite that I make much ado over... but then I remind myself that I am alive, healthy, relatively pain free... and I should thank my lucky stars that this imperfect body gets me where I want to go with relative ease. I have a wonderful Dom that thinks I am sexy and very fuckable... lol. So I am not complaining in the least about my body these days... but seriously, it cannot be much of a mystery as to why women do not feel good about how they look.




AquaticSub -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 2:28:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

Negative judgment? Hey, that is how I see some of the posts in this thread. I need not reach a highly rationalized judgment from something so unambiguously expressed. It is blatently obvious to me. Those who took my comments personally only demonstrate my point.

There are also some very positive posts by people who do not feel like a victim of their body and life, and joyfully or peacefully accept all of themself. An excellent example is charlestonscmilk.


I was going ignore it but..

I am not defined by my breasts. However, I am perfectly within my rights to be angry when people, mostly men, attempt to define me by them. I am also perfectly within my rights to refuse to allow them. As an artist, I do this by turning something so revered as a sex object into something mutalitated and ugly.

Now you can call that victimhood until you are blue in the face. It's not going to make you right.



zumala -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 4:48:50 AM)

I'm about a 32A, so I definately don't count as 'busty', BUT... since this is an open forum, I'm going to comment anyway.  [;)]
 
Seems like most women undergo teasing and/or ridicule about their breasts at some point, whether they are small or large.  I had cheerleader types ask each other snidely as I passed by 'Was that a boy or a girl?' more than once.
 
As for breast play, I find that mine are quite sensitive and I enjoy it a lot when my husband plays with them.  He may be what is termed a 'leg and ass' kind of guy, but it's obvious to me that he likes my breasts, small or not.
 
Just my 2 cents.
 
zuma



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 5:40:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

Negative judgment? Hey, that is how I see some of the posts in this thread. I need not reach a highly rationalized judgment from something so unambiguously expressed. It is blatently obvious to me. Those who took my comments personally only demonstrate my point.

There are also some very positive posts by people who do not feel like a victim of their body and life, and joyfully or peacefully accept all of themself. An excellent example is charlestonscmilk.

perhaps you should walk briefly in the shoes of a busty woman like me for 24hrs and tell me if you enjoyed all ogling stares from men when wearing a tank tee-shirt ...or sitting in a restuarant on a date and all the guy can do is mentally undress you with his eyes during dinner.

why should i be positive about having large breasts? it's more of a curse than a blessing to me since guys and men didn't see me as a woman with brains and great conversations skills - they only saw me as a sexual object. on another adult site, i had more requests for live cam views of my breasts because that's all they wanted to see - tits and ass! 

i would say all men are dogs but not all are ...at least i have met 2 Doms who truly appreciate the breast size i have without thinking i'm an easy lay and dumb.



SexyRed -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 6:03:20 AM)

Honestly? I always got alot of attention for being busty and I always enjoy it. However...it always seems the ones who are most gaga over breasts never seem to know what to do with them.



EvilGeoff -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 9:41:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
I've never had any interest in guys that are fascinated with boobs. I find them one dimensional.


I likes a woman wif a big butt!  Sumpin' what I can hold on to an' beats wif a car antenna!



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 9:52:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

Honestly? I always got alot of attention for being busty and I always enjoy it.

i wouldn't mind the attention however i don't welcome the unwanted attention especially while working the concert scene. getting groped because some drunk concertgoer wants to cop a feel is not appreciated ...and it does get the guy one heck of a spanking he wouldn't forget.



dawntreader -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 9:58:48 AM)

Greetings zumala,
 
i too belong to the A family but i truly never had issues with it...i guess the full Hannibal Lextor style headgear i had to wear for braces put me in a "sexless" bracket by itself LOL! As i got older, i have always been active in outdoor adventure sports and my small breast size is actually an advantage.
 
As for breast play, these "girls" know how to respond and that all that counts for me! 



spankmepink11 -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 9:59:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

perhaps you should walk briefly in the shoes of a busty woman like me for 24hrs and tell me if you enjoyed all ogling stares from men when wearing a tank tee-shirt ...or sitting in a restuarant on a date and all the guy can do is mentally undress you with his eyes during dinner.



I have large breasts and while they do not define me as a person, i kind of enjoy being ogled and mentally undressed. To me, this does not detract  from the fact that i view myself as a thinking being with reasonable intelligence, and much to offer a potential partner.



sublimelysensual -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 10:16:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

This is a pretty sad thread.

We have a bunch of women who hate their bodies, hate the ignorant men who cannot see past it, but define themself by those men. The exact same population of men treat small breasted women in an equally shallow manner. They also treat other men with the same shallow attitude. Why take it personally? SELF DOUBT. It has little to do with the man, who will always give their energy to any physical difference from the average. Do you take it personally when a mosquito bites you? It must be a conspiracy of nature, that you are singled out to be bitten, over and over again. What a victim.
.......
It goes like this -- "I am a reflection of my body, therefore, I dislike myself." "I depend upon others for validation and esteem, therefore, I am worth less because somebody else focuses their energy on my body instead of my heart." "It is perfectly fine for me to feel an attraction to part of a man (like a dominant ego), but it is wrong for him to feel an attraction to any specific part of me (like his source of nurturing as a baby)." "Breasts define me, but other people do not define themselves by parts of their body or personality, therefore, I am an even more uniquely a victim of my life." .......



 Apart from the whole series of generalizations about the women who posted about the negatives of being busty (and no, I do not hate myself, my breasts, or my body, thank you), I think what bothered me most was the implication that there is something wrong with US for being annoyed when a man's attention seems wholly concentrated on one part of the body. Everything else aside, hello?? what kind of manners does it display? There's something called common courtesy, every man that I meet does not speak to my breasts, which leads me to conclude it must be possible to focus on my face, even though my breasts may be part of what's attracting someone. It is just rude, period, and no, I do not have any patience for rude people. If that makes me a victim, or co-dependent, or filled with self doubt, then so be it.
 
-a



AquaticSub -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 11:15:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sublimelysensual

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

This is a pretty sad thread.




 Apart from the whole series of generalizations about the women who posted about the negatives of being busty (and no, I do not hate myself, my breasts, or my body, thank you), I think what bothered me most was the implication that there is something wrong with US for being annoyed when a man's attention seems wholly concentrated on one part of the body. Everything else aside, hello?? what kind of manners does it display? There's something called common courtesy, every man that I meet does not speak to my breasts, which leads me to conclude it must be possible to focus on my face, even though my breasts may be part of what's attracting someone. It is just rude, period, and no, I do not have any patience for rude people. If that makes me a victim, or co-dependent, or filled with self doubt, then so be it.
 
-a


Brava.



aldompdx -> RE: Busty slaves/subs (6/4/2007 8:38:19 PM)

> juliaoceania... You wrote one of the more positive and accepting perspectives on the issue. I get what you are saying.

"we are just a reflection of the world at large here." And, I am saying -- MAKE A DIFFERENT CHOICE. Yes, it is not easy. No it is not a mystery. Self identity is one of the most fundamental issues in a BDSM relationship.

> AquaticSub (f) ... Have you had your breast reduction surgery yet? It seems that you could make the choice to alleviate the very thing you believe is the source of your anger. If you can remove the problem, but refuse to do so, does that not make you a victim of yourself?

There are things in the world that adversely affect me personally at a SURVIVAL level. Survival means life and death, not just some glaring looks from strangers. While I have a right to be angery, I most often make a choice to not live in anger. Instead of living in the negative shadow stench of my own anger, I simply try to do my best to improve the actual circumstances, and accept that which I cannot change.

> sambamanslilgirl... "you enjoyed all oogling stares from men," I would gladly trade mere stares for the issues I deal with. You seem to have no idea what real abuse and torture is about. Basically, I hear the complaint that life is not perfect. How are you tring to change it for the better? You can change the size of your breasts, unlike the color of your skin.

I never said that the pathetic shallow reactions of hormone controlled males is a good thing. A dog is ALWAYS going to smell the asshole of another dog. Men lacking emotional intelligence are ALWAYS going to stae at large breasts, and some will ALWAYS consume pornography. Why do you think that they call prostitution the oldest profession? I have said that you have both physical and emotional choices of how to deal with it. Bottom line, choose fulfillment over victimhood.

> sublimelysensual... I agree that there is nothing wrong with being "annoyed." But, being forced by strangers into a life of low self worth and low self esteem is far more than mere annoyance. That is the issue I was speaking to. What you are saying does not rise to that level of "my life is ruined because of how others react to my breasts."

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Basically, this is like the debate of whether a BDSM "slave" has choice, and exercises self-will through personal power, to take responsibility for their situation.

Hey, I have to deal with the same shallow PEOPLE all the time (yes that includes all the shallow men AND women out there). They cause me much greater problems than mere nasty looks. Do I like it -- HELL NO! Does it define who I am -- HELL NO! Am I a self sabotaging victim, because I do nothing to change what I dislike -- HELL NO! If you don't like having large breasts, get rid of them!

Go live in a country under a military dictator, where you have to worry every day whether you will get arrested and "disappeared" just for saying the wrong thing. I promise that your concern for your breast size will instantly become a trivial matter.

What I think is pathetic are all the complaints coming from a place of privileged insulated american life. YES, that is one of my complaints about shallow people.



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