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Castration - 6/3/2007 9:16:14 AM

Trampler

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in another thread, the subject of castration came up, some Domme's have receive emails from male submissives requesting that they be castrated, and 1 person pointed out that it might just be a fantasy. I can buy that, however the idea bugs me, alot. Why would someone want to even fantasize that happening? Is it because they might desire to not be a man? or to disassociate themselves from the phallic image? I always think about the psychology of what we do, what actions occur as a result of what we do. I would like to hear opinions and views of other Domme's and male submissives, particularily of those who fantasized about this. Please no flaming of those who admit to it.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 9:30:23 AM

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 9:33:06 AM

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I have no idea why someone fantasies about this but I can say that to truly fulfill that fantasy is a one-shot thing.

Now why would I or anyone else want to be so limited to doing something only once?

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 9:37:33 AM

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I knwo the castration fantasy has come up for me. It has to do with him wanting to be my girl, and not my boy. I have told him that he would be more useful as my girl since we are not sexually active. And if I cant use "it" no one else should. It was a fantasy along the same lines for him for a long while. I cant speak for others obviously, I just know that this is why he feels tat way.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 9:41:53 AM

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I'll top that. I have been talking to a submissive who is going out of the country next week to actually do it. He says he's been fantasizing about castration for years and has finally decided to do it for real. Now, granted, I have no idea how truthful this person is but even if he's lying about doing it for real, he obviously has a pretty intense fantasy regarding it. I also had a guy recently come to me and want me to burn it completely off. Ouch.

I have no desire to enact or play at those fantasies. I like my toys and don't want a vital piece of equipment gone.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 10:00:24 AM

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I was talking with a couple once and the male said he wanted to be castrated. I guess that, for him, this would be taking the cuck experience to the extreme. I asked him to elaborate, since I took him seriously but was hardly prepared to castrate him (I hadn't even met them!)--and he dropped out of contact. Oh well. I guess that has "fantasy only" written all over it.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 10:11:40 AM

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i saw a BDSM documentary about a guy who was at a club. he met two other guys and mentioned in passing he had this fantasy. They took him home, tied him up and did the deed, all too late he realised what was going on.
methinks carefull what you wish for. i guess for some men its a mental problem associated with a very low self esteem. It would never be something id want but im guessing there are many who at least fantasize over it.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 10:30:36 AM

SDFemDom4cuck

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I get this type of request often. Both castration and penectomy. While I can't say what the reason is for every one of them, I know the reasons some have given. For some it's the desire to be feminized completely. For others it's taking chastity to it's ultimate extreme. One, that was interested in complete removal of both, was simply tired of feeling controlled by his male parts. He felt he would be a better sub/cuck if he wasn't constantly distracted by his male hormones. Even while in chastity he still felt controlled by them. He felt that the removal of the male organs would finally solve that problem. He seemed very intent on having it done but didn't want to do so on his own.

The psychology of D/s fascinates me as well and I'm always curious not only about what it is that they think about but where it has originated from within the psyche.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 11:16:27 AM

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As another replied there are a vast variety of reasons why a male desires elective castration. M2F Transformations, more extreme form of Chastity, to be a totally selfless partner or submissive, more personal control and so on. Fantasy or reality there is a strong desire in some males and they all have their own personal reasons for this. If you are truly interested and want to learn more go to http://www.eunuch.org/ It is a very friendly community with those that have went further or considering it. There are also those that just hold onto the fantasy. Great site and alot of information for those that do have a Castration Fetish. MsPatty

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 11:21:09 AM

MsSonnetMarwood

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

I get this type of request often. Both castration and penectomy. While I can't say what the reason is for every one of them, I know the reasons some have given. For some it's the desire to be feminized completely. For others it's taking chastity to it's ultimate extreme. One, that was interested in complete removal of both, was simply tired of feeling controlled by his male parts. He felt he would be a better sub/cuck if he wasn't constantly distracted by his male hormones. Even while in chastity he still felt controlled by them. He felt that the removal of the male organs would finally solve that problem. He seemed very intent on having it done but didn't want to do so on his own.

That's the problem that I have with the fantasy - if it's something they really really want because it is SO final - go through the process of being evaluated and having a doctor do it, and OWN wanting to have it done.

By saddling the responsibility of having someone else do it to them, it allows them to not be responsible if they have regrets afterwards (and frankly - I think they will). At least that's my 2 cent pop psychology interpretation.

That said...did you know you could buy castration equipment on eBay?

< Message edited by MsSonnetMarwood -- 6/3/2007 11:22:03 AM >

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 11:51:26 AM

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Oh yes...You just have to love Ebay. Actually if you have a Farm and Feed store near you they sell Burdizzos and Elastrators which are bloodless forms of castration. These are also great to use when doing a castration scene. Also there are several Doctors around the world that will do surgical castration without the male being evaluated as they would be if they went to a Gender Reassignment Clinic. While I agree the idea is so final in reality while the testicles may be gone many are able to with the assistance of hormones have a somewhat normal sex life. MsPatty

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:10:41 PM

Aliya

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Trampler

in another thread, the subject of castration came up, some Domme's have receive emails from male submissives requesting that they be castrated, and 1 person pointed out that it might just be a fantasy. I can buy that, however the idea bugs me, alot. Why would someone want to even fantasize that happening? Is it because they might desire to not be a man? or to disassociate themselves from the phallic image? I always think about the psychology of what we do, what actions occur as a result of what we do. I would like to hear opinions and views of other Domme's and male submissives, particularily of those who fantasized about this. Please no flaming of those who admit to it.

I've had one guy send me an email because he noticed that I'm a castrate M2F transsexual. He seemed to be misinterpreting that somehow my experience of being without balls would be the same for him. Which there is no way that it would.

I was rather shocked that he believed that some how it would make him a better submissive to not have his nads driving his sexual urges.

I told him about the potential health problems of being a man with no balls. I figured it might make him think more carefully about the fantasy he was all wrapped up in.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:13:25 PM

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:16:33 PM

SDFemDom4cuck

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

quote:

ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

I get this type of request often. Both castration and penectomy. While I can't say what the reason is for every one of them, I know the reasons some have given. For some it's the desire to be feminized completely. For others it's taking chastity to it's ultimate extreme. One, that was interested in complete removal of both, was simply tired of feeling controlled by his male parts. He felt he would be a better sub/cuck if he wasn't constantly distracted by his male hormones. Even while in chastity he still felt controlled by them. He felt that the removal of the male organs would finally solve that problem. He seemed very intent on having it done but didn't want to do so on his own.

That's the problem that I have with the fantasy - if it's something they really really want because it is SO final - go through the process of being evaluated and having a doctor do it, and OWN wanting to have it done.

By saddling the responsibility of having someone else do it to them, it allows them to not be responsible if they have regrets afterwards (and frankly - I think they will). At least that's my 2 cent pop psychology interpretation.

That said...did you know you could buy castration equipment on eBay?

I really should have finished that a bit more because I believe his intent may be misunderstood. We had many many detailed conversations regarding this subject. I feel he did completely own wanting it done. he simply felt that to do so on his own was selfish and the Mistress may wish to have it done herself. Because of how final an act it is he wanted to have it done within a committed D/s relationship. Ceremonially, such as a branding or collaring is done, as a bonding experience to be shared between himself and his Owner. If that makes more sense.

Although I don't know that I agree he would have regrets later. Given the amount of conversations that were held between the two of us his sincerity was far beyond that of wanking material or fantasy. There was no desire for feminization, he truly just felt that he would be a more focused and devoted sub/cuck without the parts that made him male.

Yes, I've seen the Elastrators/Burdizzos on Ebay and at my local Grangettos. LOL

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:31:56 PM

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I can actually speak with some experience here as my sissy hubby is casterated! To be honest it isn't something that I would have ever thought to do,nor cared to do. It was a fantasy that I felt needed to be kept as such. However about two months prior to us getting married he went through with the surgery. My theory is that we love who we love for specific reasons. I know I wasn't in love with the cock/ but the man and decided to marry him because of that fact. We have a fantastic relationship and adore each other very much. I get requests from people all the time to do this to them, and it's not something I would ever take on. His was actually done by a surgeon in the Philadelphia area. I know that technically it isn't the NORM (vast understatement) however as my parents said to me (yes they know of my lifestyle) when does NORMAL work for you. If you have sincere questions feel free to ask! If your looking to have it done, I am not going to do it for you. I very life changing, body image, radical thing and you cannot go back. I have asked my hubby if he wished he had not had it done, overall he is much happier with his life. His balls would run most of his life prior to us being married and now it has calmed him down. Just my two cents for what its worth!

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:33:10 PM

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Dearest Trampler,

Since You brought the subject over here, i'll just drag my reply to You
there right on over. Thanks for keeping the subject alive, i think it is
important to talk about such.

We had a discussion on this subject in another group to which i belong.
i tend to chastize those whom come on board with such requests or
promotion of such behavior. i usually end up singing this diddy to them.

A/all together now.........

Take me out to the ball game

Tie them down low and long

Give me a shot for the pain i beg

Oh God, what's running down my leg!

Now, it's snip, snip, snip for devotion

Great earrings for Dear Auntie "Maim"

So it's one, two, and he squeaks like a mouse

In...the...ooooold. ..balllll. .."game"!

Though it can be a subject to have a laugh or two over, when i see males make
such an outlandish request, and see certain Women entertain the idea, it reminds
me that there are individuals to whom this may fascinate as a reality. i am sure
for most of the males whom beg for such, it is simple fantasy, which when given
the opportunity to speak of the act to another, it becomes a greater titillation of
fantasy. Unfortunately, there are Women whom will stroke this fantasy within a
male for whatever purpose or gain She may Herself hold. It is that thought though,
that for some, on either side of the fence, this is an ingrained desire and reality to
them. D/s and BDSM seems an endless horizon of tastes and applications, fun
sometimes to make light of, tragic on the other hand when we realize this is a
serious subject some will actually consider. Perhaps the Dommes here should
keep a link to a psychiatric site for those moments when they believe the person
contacting them may indeed need more than a quick "f-off you moron". Just my
thoughts on the matter Mamm, as i love to stir thinking as much as controversy.

ch ch ch chia* (the pet)

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:46:32 PM

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castration is like a snuff fantasy to me, a fantasy, and you can roll it around in their nasty little heads all day long, but how you gonna top it tomorrow?

So, it mainly should stay in the realm of a mindphuck.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 12:55:58 PM

maledave7

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I have heard of males wanting castration done. It is forever, once you had it done to you. There is a danger about doing it without a doctor’s help. It is possible of getting a serious infection without medical help. I would never desire to have this done to myself.
What I have learned from reading what Mistresses and Dommes think about it is that most of them prefer the whole male. This is what I think makes a man a true sub. He is all man, but he submits to a dominant woman’s rule over him.
My desire is to be a sub under the rule of my Mistress. I have thought of a mental castration that I can do. When my hormones are running wild, would be to turn that energy into pleasing my Mistress.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 1:48:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Seawolf3465

I can actually speak with some experience here as my sissy hubby is casterated! To be honest it isn't something that I would have ever thought to do,nor cared to do. It was a fantasy that I felt needed to be kept as such. However about two months prior to us getting married he went through with the surgery. My theory is that we love who we love for specific reasons. I know I wasn't in love with the cock/ but the man and decided to marry him because of that fact. We have a fantastic relationship and adore each other very much. I get requests from people all the time to do this to them, and it's not something I would ever take on. His was actually done by a surgeon in the Philadelphia area. I know that technically it isn't the NORM (vast understatement) however as my parents said to me (yes they know of my lifestyle) when does NORMAL work for you. If you have sincere questions feel free to ask! If your looking to have it done, I am not going to do it for you. I very life changing, body image, radical thing and you cannot go back. I have asked my hubby if he wished he had not had it done, overall he is much happier with his life. His balls would run most of his life prior to us being married and now it has calmed him down. Just my two cents for what its worth!

While you probably just replied to the last response you saw (which happened to be mine) I'm not quite sure if this was meant in specific response to me or not. If that was not the case I'll note that it is not something I'm looking to do to the person I gave as an example regarding what they were thinking and the reasoning behind their desire to do so. The subject itself fascinates the hell out of me from a psychological standpoint. Although I will most definitely keep you in mind if I have any questions and pm you on the other side.

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How glittering they shone -
And every One unbared a Nerve
Or wantoned with a Bone -

I want a sensitive man - one who'll cry when I hit him.

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RE: Castration - 6/3/2007 2:06:47 PM

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Some guys near me got into some real trouble from running a castration service out of there house. It really got the small town talking.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/31/ap/strange/mainD8GMPIP82.shtml

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