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adoracat -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/6/2007 10:34:41 PM)

my daughter calls me "cumguzzling gutterslut" but she isnt serious.

kitten, who laughs about this




Lashra -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 5:01:33 AM)

To me it is a nongender specific slang term used for a person who really enjoys sex . I call my sub "slut" many times because, well because he IS a slut lol

~Lashra




drawntothedark -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 5:15:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

This also helped me in that I realize so many people (women especially) find it hard to be “a slut.” They can embrace being “someone’s slut” or being a loved slut, but find it difficult to be bald-facedly an open slut.



I think I am a bit like this. I have never been refered to (to my face anyway) as a slut until I meet my first Dom. He used the term all the time. For some reason I knew when he said it he did not mean that I would sleep with who ever - it was meant as a term for being highly sexed. I was fine with him calling me that. I was not fine with ANYONE using the term. It irks me to no end to open up an email with "how are you today slut" and it not be from my Dom.

I am not a "slut" for anyone. I am one for my Dom. The reason why it irks me so is that when someone other than Justin calls me that, it seems they are implying I would have sex with them - and it's definatly not the case.

However, the older I get the less power I give to words. So I may get called that everyonce and awhile by some guy - and it will roll off my back. (hopefully)




Aswad -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 5:36:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

i define slut by the common dictionary definition, meaning a promiscuous, "loose" woman, who is indiscriminate regarding her partners. it has nothing to do with embracing one's sexuality, or even enjoying sex or being an especially sensual person.


This has been my use of the word as well, although I recognize and accept that others don't always use it the same way; i.e. when I hear someone saying it, I no longer assume they mean the same thing I do.

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it's simply about being a readily available tool for the pleasure of men. when my Master refers to me as slut, he means it in that sense.


~nod~

Quite admirable, really.

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in the later high school and college years i had a reputation for being the school slut, as my submissive nature made me very easy...i never said no, and would do whatever was asked or demanded of me, things more proper girls just didn't do.


Why, oh why, didn't you attend my schools? [:D]

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my Master knows about my past and my sluttiness appealed to him, although for me it was always a source of shame and depression. it was my Master who gradually taught me to be proud of my slut nature, and to be able to smile when he (or anyone else) calls me that.


Indeed. There's nothing wrong with having such a nature, and I'm sure those who have benefitted from it appreciate it. It would seem wrong, to me, not to embrace one's nature, regardless of whether it is deemed socially acceptable or not. And it would appear odd, to me, not to respect another for their nature, but nobody asked me before setting up social conventions, as usual. Wonder why? [:D]

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however i've noticed that when most in the lifestyle use the word slut, they don't mean it in such a literal sense.


As some have pointed out, it appears to be a response to people using it in a derogatory manner, a sort of empowerment-strategy by way of "embrace, extend, extinguish", as it's sometimes called. The term is extended to cover a different sense, then the original use fades out. Of course, new terms are always invented, or old ones reused, so it's not a sustainable strategy, IMO.

IIRC, the "Slut Manifesto" was one of the texts that coined this "new" use for the word.




marieToo -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 5:43:33 AM)

I use the term slut here or there in a humorous manner. 

However, the definition (in my view anyway) of a genuine slut would be someone who is sex-obsessed and promiscuous, and one who 'sleeps around'.







Kinkypupper -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 7:50:00 AM)

IMHO, a "slut" is someone who accepts wholly and is happily active in expressing their sexuality and sensuality.




Arpig -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 12:35:40 PM)

a girl who would sleep with me [:D]




KuffedKitten -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 3:53:09 PM)

I am not a Dominant , however I have always enjoyed becing called a slut , whore..etc as well as mentioned earlier by another here..though I cannot fully explain why it is a term of endearment at times for me as well. I want to be "His slut" for example.
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I use it not so much as a term of endearment; but moreso as an acknowledgement of someone who can abandon themselves to their complete sexual nature while with me. Although it is most used for those who indescriminantly have sex; I feel it can be a liberated use of the word and embodiment. I prefer not using it in a negative context; there are more than enough words to do that. When someone's needs overpower their self control; and they beg...I find use of the term whore more fitting. By using those terms in a paradoxical way, it can create a mix of feelings in the recipient. Despite the negative societal connotations  that create an intitial wave of shame; it then opens an opportunity to freely be those things that may have been difficult to attain otherwise. So it's my beautiful slut; or my hungry little whore...both delicious variations of the same flavor.


This definitely mirrrors my own feelings on the receiveing end of the words of course and I Thank You BlindSescent for putting into words this one could not :)

--kuffed





MercTech -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/7/2007 6:34:18 PM)

Hmmm, I've never heard positive definitions of "slut".  I've always thought it was a sexually active female that had little or no descrimination as to who her partners were.
"Cock-a-doodle dooo, any cock'll do"

Stefan




afreakychic69 -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/8/2007 8:56:34 AM)

A slut is a person who has taken control of their sexuality and has sex with whomever they choose.

Yes I am slut.




Domspaintoy -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/8/2007 9:25:35 AM)

i love being called slut, took me a while to get used to being called names such as slut, slave, whore, cunt, bitch even when He called me little girl i cringed at 1st. But as with all things i would say slut especially is a term of endearment as well as my name lol even when i had a nicer name i dont ever recall being called anything other than slut or slave.




MrRoberts48381 -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/8/2007 12:24:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: afreakychic69

A slut is a person who has taken control of their sexuality and has sex with whomever they choose.

Yes I am slut.



Dream on ....   To be called  slut  and your not one is Hawt!!     a real  slut  can have bugs .....  ewwwww

*washing hands

a kittin tould me   " The real sluts are trying to redefine what a slut is so they can feel better about themselves Daddy"

iam so happy your my slut kittin ....  

"If you need a pen/paper to add up your lovers/one nighters you just may be a Slut"






daddysprop247 -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/10/2007 2:42:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aswad




quote:

in the later high school and college years i had a reputation for being the school slut, as my submissive nature made me very easy...i never said no, and would do whatever was asked or demanded of me, things more proper girls just didn't do.


Why, oh why, didn't you attend my schools? [:D]

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

heck, why didn't you attend mine? being a slut in this modern, feministic world was torture. all throughout school i was never asked out on a date, to a dance (much less to prom), nothing. in fact one guy went so far as to tell me what he felt was the cold hard truth: "you're just not girlfriend material," meaning, i was for f*cking, not for dating or being seen with. i spent many study hall and teacher's aide periods on my knees in the boys bathroom or in one of the stairwells. i hated every second, hated myself even, but at the same time i desperately needed the use.
 


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my Master knows about my past and my sluttiness appealed to him, although for me it was always a source of shame and depression. it was my Master who gradually taught me to be proud of my slut nature, and to be able to smile when he (or anyone else) calls me that.


Indeed. There's nothing wrong with having such a nature, and I'm sure those who have benefitted from it appreciate it. It would seem wrong, to me, not to embrace one's nature, regardless of whether it is deemed socially acceptable or not. And it would appear odd, to me, not to respect another for their nature, but nobody asked me before setting up social conventions, as usual. Wonder why? [:D]

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

because silly, you make entirely too much sense! lol



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however i've noticed that when most in the lifestyle use the word slut, they don't mean it in such a literal sense.


As some have pointed out, it appears to be a response to people using it in a derogatory manner, a sort of empowerment-strategy by way of "embrace, extend, extinguish", as it's sometimes called. The term is extended to cover a different sense, then the original use fades out. Of course, new terms are always invented, or old ones reused, so it's not a sustainable strategy, IMO.

IIRC, the "Slut Manifesto" was one of the texts that coined this "new" use for the word.



can't say i've ever heard of the "Slut Manifesto", but the title alone reeks of feminism and female empowerment, ideals that couldn't be more contradictory to my own beliefs, values and way of life.
 
my Master and i have a page on yahoo, where i once wrote a blog about this very subject...the trials, tribulations, and beauty of being a natural born slut. of those who posted comments, very few seemed to understand precisely what i meant by the word "slut," and how it is not a sexy petname or exercise in verbal humiliation, but just a cold, simple statement of fact.




jayded34 -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/10/2007 2:47:29 PM)

The definition of Slut:  A woman with the morals of a Man........




ownedgirlie -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/10/2007 3:17:13 PM)

~ fast reply ~

He calls me slut because I am his personal slut.  I don't sleep around; I am not permiscuous.  But I will happily do any sexual act he wants of me.  All the things he calls me are in the context of our relationship.




Aswad -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/11/2007 7:11:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

heck, why didn't you attend mine?


For much the same reasons, I would think.

Perhaps it was karma. Who knows what might have gone differently?

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being a slut in this modern, feministic world was torture.


I can imagine that.

People generally do not respond well to anyone straying from the pack.

You might find the thread about genious and insanity interesting in that regard; a lot of it isn't so much about intelligence as it is about individuality (whether brought about as a result of restless intelligence, or as intrinsic to one's personality).

Just skip the parts where CuriousLord and some others are debating about the existance of G*d by the commonly given Christian definition, that was as close to a physical manifestation of the concept of "talking past one another" as I have seen.

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all throughout school i was never asked out on a date, to a dance (much less to prom), nothing.


Seems familiar from the experiences of several people I know.

The commonality appears to be that they all had something to seperate them from the pack.

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in fact one guy went so far as to tell me what he felt was the cold hard truth: "you're just not girlfriend material," meaning, i was for f*cking, not for dating or being seen with.


I do not agree with his assessment, but at least he was candid about his opinions.

Though, amusingly enough, most of the girls who were considered "girlfriend material" by my peers at that age didn't qualify for dating in my opinion, and were mostly sported as trophies and used for physical relations by their boyfriends, who effectively "paid" them for their "services" by doing minimal "maintenance".

What he is really saying is: "Dating you would make me an individual, which I don't want to be, as I am submissive to my pack. Being seen with you would make the pack disapprove of me, as you are an individual, and I require their approval to validate my existance and self-worth."

I'm not sure he is dating material. Especially not for a budding slave.

I am not sure I ever went through such a "pack" phase, and if I did, I'm pretty sure the "pack" was my family.

It is perhaps a pity that you did not encounter an appropriate partner at the time, but fortunate for your Master.

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i spent many study hall and teacher's aide periods on my knees in the boys bathroom or in one of the stairwells. i hated every second, hated myself even, but at the same time i desperately needed the use.


As I have commented about rape in the past, it is almost universally the case that the majority of trauma derives from the feedback and expectations from society around the person who is subjected to it, with only a small part of it derived from the act itself. In effect, your experiences are an example of this, I think. Your issues with yourself at the time seem to have stemmed from the trauma inflicted by society. Being a slut would not, I think, have been traumatic, if society had allowed you to be one.

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because silly, you make entirely too much sense! lol


Ah, that's true. [:D]

Perhaps I should write a book and call it "The World According to Aswad".

Then they could really see ... well, that they need to lock me up, of course ... for their own good. [8|]

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can't say i've ever heard of the "Slut Manifesto", but the title alone reeks of feminism and female empowerment, ideals that couldn't be more contradictory to my own beliefs, values and way of life.


Quite on the contrary, in a way. At least, I would not call it a feminist text. I will quote:
[...] Women hated me because I was a slut and would give my pussy away to their boyfriends without demanding what they demanded in exchange. My free pussy lessened their value [...]
If you're interested, you'll find that and various people's musings on the topic at this node on Everything2.

Our views on the natural role of the female are very different, but I find myself in agreement with most of the things you write on this board, and must say it is a pity women like you are so rare (at least in my experience). In very many ways, you fit the bill perfectly for what I would seek in bringing an additional slave into the household.

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my Master and i have a page on yahoo, where i once wrote a blog about this very subject...the trials, tribulations, and beauty of being a natural born slut.


If you'd care to email me a link to it, that'd be a most interesting read.

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of those who posted comments, very few seemed to understand precisely what i meant by the word "slut," and how it is not a sexy petname or exercise in verbal humiliation, but just a cold, simple statement of fact.


Many people have trouble grasping the sense of words beyond their colloquial meaning. Some, like me, have the opposite problem. In that regard I do not think I will make the same mistake in interpreting the text.

I attach no value judgment to the word "slut", but I do tend to use it in its more literal sense.

On a side note, the word originally had a different meaning. Google for slut etymology and you may find a reference to a late medieval (IIRC) text in which the phrase "Sarah is a good slut", or somesuch, occurs, in a very different sense than the modern use. Words change a lot over time, and it can be frustrating. Like how flæsk, mete and fod came to be the words flesh, meat and food, while their original meanings are what we now call meat, substantial meal and animal feed, respectively. And people wonder why dead languages and synthetic languages hold appeal for me. ~lol~




charismagirrl -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/11/2007 8:42:17 AM)

For my Master/Daddy the term is one endearment and when he calls me "slut" as he often does it makes me smile. In his eyes it is a beautiful thing and he is trying to cultivate it in me.

He doesn't mean it as in "go to the local bar and pic up a stranger" sense. He means that as a slut i am his to use in whatever nasty way he desires and to have me used by others in any way he desires for his pleasure. The result of which is freedom within.

He also loves the slutty look that i work hard to maintain.




stoicism99 -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/11/2007 10:35:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BlindDescent

I use it not so much as a term of endearment; but moreso as an acknowledgement of someone who can abandon themselves to their complete sexual nature while with me. Although it is most used for those who indescriminantly have sex; I feel it can be a liberated use of the word and embodiment. I prefer not using it in a negative context; there are more than enough words to do that. When someone's needs overpower their self control; and they beg...I find use of the term whore more fitting. By using those terms in a paradoxical way, it can create a mix of feelings in the recipient. Despite the negative societal connotations  that create an intitial wave of shame; it then opens an opportunity to freely be those things that may have been difficult to attain otherwise. So it's my beautiful slut; or my hungry little whore...both delicious variations of the same flavor.


Well spoken.

I've used it exactly in the same way; especially if I have a submissive that is the 'I'm a good girl, but I want to be bad.' type. It tends to create a cascading reaction; that she is being told she's being bad, which feeds the desire. And as someone else mentioned, when that person is feeling introverted or nervous, that whispered into an ear can shift their perceptions and make them relax and enjoy being in the moment again.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Define the term 'Slut' (6/11/2007 12:16:46 PM)

To me, there is a vast difference between "a slut" and "MY slut".  I could care less about sluts but MY slut is a glorious creature capable of sexual acts few can imagine and even fewer can perform.  She is the center of my focus even if she is blindfolded and gagged and shoved face down into a corner while I rape another woman's ass.  She is the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with, whom I wish to share life's joys and sorrows while we live life to the fullest and slowly grow old together.  She is MY slut now and forever.




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