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snmsub -> Worried (5/27/2005 7:33:25 PM)

I live in an apartment in a "shady area" of town. The police came my door tonight. One of my neighbours has gone missing and they are trying to find out the last time she was seen. She is a young single woman and rarely goes anywhere. Her family has been unable to contact her for a week now ... I don't live alone and have contact with people every day.. I know several methods of self defence. Why am I worried?.... The man who lives next door to me has always given me the creepiest feeling, he watches people from the front step and never talks to anyone. No matter how often I say "hello" he never does more than grunt or snarl at me. He looks at me with complete contempt and purposefully plays his stereo against my bedroom wall with the bass as high as possible. In short I believe this man is unbalanced. I heard an arguement coming from his place about four days ago.... I heard a woman's voice. I know he lives alone and he never has visitors. I am feeling that he may have had something to do with this. I realize that I am jumping to conclusions, but frankly I have never been this close to a possible violent crime.. I am very scared. Do you think I am being ridiculous?



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Worried (5/27/2005 7:40:41 PM)

Why are you telling us this story instead of the police who can get a warrant and inspect the "creepy man's" place??? The longer you delay, the less likely the chance she will be found alive! M



snmsub -> RE: Worried (5/27/2005 7:43:08 PM)

believe me... I told them what I told you and got a smug smile and "there there dear" from the officer who spoke to me.

that is part of the reason I posted, I need to know if other people think I am just being "crazy" and to be honest.. I respect the opinions of many people who post here.



Estring -> RE: Worried (5/27/2005 7:58:51 PM)

That's about all you can do. And if it bothers you enough, you might think about moving.



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Worried (5/27/2005 8:48:06 PM)

I would consider moving... Maybe to a place I'd feel safer? Maybe with a roomate... M



RiotGirl -> RE: Worried (5/27/2005 9:23:26 PM)

gee

didnt you know thats what the cops are there to for? To pat you on the head and not do their jobs?

find some one higher up

buy a gun

i'd personally arm myself. As cops rarely do squat anyways.

i was once in an apartment where a lady had called the cops and said there is some one here holding me hostage with a gun.

it took fer aaaaaaaaages and a second call for them to appear. Not like they did anything once they were there, but confiscate the gun.

but hey thats what cops are for

oh wait and the time a grown man threatened to dispose of my body, had me pinned to the ground threatening to knock my lights out and THEN dispose of my body.. in the dumpster.. or somewhere else where no one would discover my body AND then tried to throw me down a second story flight of stairs into glass doors?

What a pat on te head i got !

So yeah arm yourself



SweetDommes -> RE: Worried (5/27/2005 11:36:52 PM)

I understand the need to feel safe, but owning a gun is not a guarentee of safety. I'm all for being allowed to own guns - but at the same time, there is a lot of responsibility involved that a lot of people just aren't ready for. There is also the fact that a lot of the people who are shot when they accidentally interrupt a burglery are shot with their own gun, which the thief found.

I would move before buying a gun.



gothicdraconica -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 3:54:39 AM)

I think you have every right to feel the way that you do. I think the suggestions about moving are valid, too, especially since it seems the police have a patronizing attitude towards you and what you've told them. Lessons in self-defense might be good, also, as SweetDommes is correct. Arming yourself might only prove to make things worse. In the meantime, it might be good to just stay away from that creepy man altogether and not do anything to agitate the situation. That might mean dealing with his stereo in resentful silence, but that would be a lot better than giving him a reason to come after you.



sub4hire -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 10:40:17 AM)

quote:

Do you think I am being ridiculous?


No, you are not. If it were me about this time I'd take a few rifles and handguns outside to do a bit of cleaning just so it was less cleanup inside. Yeah, I'm great at intimidation.
Even gotten awards from the local authorities over it over the year's.

Aside from that, not a whole lot you can do. You've reported it. If they choose to laugh at you, what else is left?

HOWEVER, time wise it is not good for you. I had great success with writing an article for the opinion section of the local newspaper once. Basically telling them what was going on in the neighborhood. (I bought a repo from a drug raid and they were breaking into it daily, cops weren't coming) The day it hit the paper an officer showed up at my door. Sat down for a couple of hour's and spoke to me. Essentially saying, we don't like bad publicity so stop it. Yet, not threatening me either. So my response was, start doing your job and I won't bash you anymore.
It got the job done...sometimes things call for rash measures.



fourpeas -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 1:12:31 PM)

Be careful, think about moving, and think about getting a roommate. A gun isn't encessarily the best thing to do just because it can always be used against you, unlike say, a self-defense class or something like that. Have you ever studied any kind of self defense? I live alone and I know how scary things can be sometime.



Raphael -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 3:42:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

I understand the need to feel safe, but owning a gun is not a guarentee of safety.


Neither is anything else.

Getting a firearm *and* learning to use it properly is as close as it gets.

And yes, I know martial arts, I've taught self-defense, and I'm not belittling those things.

But if you seriously think a few months, or even years, of any martial art is comparable to a loaded smith and wesson you're living in a dream world.

To the original poster: you're not crazy for thinking what you're thinking. On the other hand, you're *probably* wrong. The guy is probably just obnoxious, not a murderer. I wouldn't take any chances with him, but I wouldn't sit up nights worrying about him either. Do what you can do, then let it go.

The police cannot protect you. The police cannot protect anyone. The best they can do is come around and punish the offender later, after he's done what he wants.

If you do decide to arm yourself, please, please, please don't think the weapon by itself will protect you. It's a powerful tool, and dangerous if used improperly. So learn how to use it. I recommend these folks if they have a chapter near you - they're freaky-folks friendly and generally very approachable.



snmsub -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 8:07:37 PM)

Thank you for the words of encouragement.. I went right down to the police station and asked to make a formal statement. The officer assigned to speak to me was much less condescending (it was a female officer). I have no idea if they have followed up on my idea, but at least I feel a bit better. I had a fellow from victim services come and he looked at my apartment, he made a few suggestions to improve my safety and my roommate has offered to drive me to work when I am on the night shift. It isn't perfect, but it is better.. and I feel somewhat safer than I did yesterday. There is still no word on her whereabouts... I can only hope she will be found alive and safe.



FelinePersuasion -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 10:55:15 PM)

not to be the voice of doom but most often abducted women are not found alive.


Guns are also most often used against their owners, if an assailant gets it away from you they are now armed with your wepon.



SweetDommes -> RE: Worried (5/28/2005 11:19:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

Guns are also most often used against their owners, if an assailant gets it away from you they are now armed with your wepon.


And this is exactly why I advise for moving before getting a gun.



FelinePersuasion -> RE: Worried (5/31/2005 2:54:59 AM)

Or moving AND some kind of form of self protection that can't be taken away, like martial arts.



MadameDahlia -> RE: Worried (5/31/2005 5:53:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

quote:

Do you think I am being ridiculous?


No, you are not. If it were me about this time I'd take a few rifles and handguns outside to do a bit of cleaning just so it was less cleanup inside. Yeah, I'm great at intimidation.
Even gotten awards from the local authorities over it over the year's.


I don't dislike guns. And I don't think guns kill people. People kill people. And I enjoy going to the firing range.

But... just a word of caution to everyone... in places (perhaps all places) if someone takes a gun from you and commits a crime with it you will be charged with a felony. Intimidation can work... and probably does in a lot of cases. But some over eager idiot may try to break into a home just to get a gun if they find out that there are guns kept on the premises.

I would suggest a very good gun safe for any collector. Otherwise you may want to keep a loaded gun in a locked box somewhere that children won't ever have access to both the box and the keys to open it.



snmsub -> RE: Worried (6/5/2005 5:00:12 PM)

An Update

Our lost girl has been found, she got bored with her life and decided to leave without telling anyone.... she left her animals to starve and her family to worry.

Nice huh???



EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Worried (6/5/2005 8:38:00 PM)

Ha maybe she found her dream dom?

Anyway, this guy hasn't DONE anything yet. That doesn't mean he couldn't, doesn't mean he's not creepy. But people don't go from non-violent to violent without some serious catalyst.

So, do what you can to protect your valuables, and either work to move or act confident with a huge "YOu SO dont want to fuck with this chick" attitude around him. That tends to be a bigger deterrant than having a gun hidden I think.



sub4hire -> RE: Worried (6/9/2005 2:10:56 PM)

quote:

Our lost girl has been found, she got bored with her life and decided to leave without telling anyone.... she left her animals to starve and her family to worry.

Nice huh???


maybe she wanted to be famous like the runaway bride.



snmsub -> RE: Worried (6/9/2005 4:45:09 PM)

As far as I know, the only people she is in trouble with is the SPCA. They are charging her with animal cruelty.



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