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"Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 2:38:29 AM   
Vendaval


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By Jeffrey McMurray, AP Writer
Wednesday, June 06, 2007
 
" LEXINGTON, Ky. —  President Bush's nominee for surgeon general, Kentucky cardiologist Dr. James Holsinger, has come under fire from gay rights groups for voting to expel a lesbian pastor from the United Methodist Church and writing in 1991 that gay sex is unnatural and unhealthy.
 
Also, Holsinger helped found a Methodist congregation that, according to gay rights activists, believes homosexuality is a matter of choice and can be "cured."

"He has a pretty clear bias against gays and lesbians," said Christina Gilgor, director of the Kentucky Fairness Alliance, a gay rights group. "This ideology flies in the face of current scientific medical studies. That makes me uneasy that he rejects science and promotes ideology."

Holsinger, 68, has declined all interview requests. "


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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 4:18:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lets just suppose for a second that one could "cure" homosexuality.

As I understand it, whether someone is gay or straight is something that is so deeply embedded at the core of their beings that it remains mysterious to science as to cause. Suppose though, that we found the cause and we could reverse things so that homosexuality could be extinguished, and those concerned were made straight.

Aside from the morality issues and outside the confines of the particular area in question, such technological ability could certainly be used then to alter other human characteristics and behaviours which from time to time are found to be unwelcome - anything from one's sexual proclivities through to one's opinions on any issue.

When they came for the homosexuals, I said nothing, because I wasnt homosexual.
When they came for me, there was no one left to say anything.

I suggest that when and if such technological ability becomes available, it is used primarily to cure people of views based on stupidity. Mind you, we have that already, its called a gun.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 8:18:30 AM   
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Stupid *Bleepbleepbleepbleep*.


That's it. I've had it. I'm going to start curing heterosexuals! *demented laugh*

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 9:44:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a GWB nominee. Expecting reasonable positions is asking a bit much don't you think?

Specifically Holsinger seems to be another bone thrown to the extreme fringe RR.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:20:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I dont want a cure.

1. show me a heterosexual person with no problems.
2. i understand the subtleties of the gay/bi world- but have no clue in the straight world.   the look- the gaze- the nod.  im sure i avoided a fistfight or 2- by not being in persuit of a lady- for dating. being gay- i am no competition.. a portion of heterosexuals would be confused by the gay/bi signal thing- i am among those who are confused by the straight signal thing.

3. i also dont wnat to be a woman.


if i could cure anything- it would be the lonliness many experience- and that certain emptiness of life that many of every walk of life experience.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:33:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lady Ellen, or how about "when they came for the homosexuals I said nothing because I wasn't a homosexual, when they came for me thanks to the second amendment I lay in wait for them and blew their heads clean off with a .12 guage shotgun."?
Works for me!

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:40:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		with myself- i view my sexuality- as maybe the chemical reactions in my brain mis-shoot- or shoot to the wrong other synapses.  IMO i was born this way.

heterosexual is the preferred and predominant way of life.   nothing will change that. people dont "turn" gay.

heterosexuals should not fear gays. or gay marriage.  me being one less male chasing females leaves more pussy for the straight man. [if they can handle that]

no one owes anyone sex. ever.

contrary to what some males think- gay guys dont automatically find every man with a penis as a sex object.

having a gay experience does not make a person gay. [thats like saying if i slept w a woman i would be straight]

i had a high school buddy who was shocked i was gay- then upset that i did not find him sexually attractive. he wasnt my type.

the male sex drive is a powerful thing. males will penitrate sheep- or a mudhole.  in some cultures a top is not considerred gay- the bottem is.

per haps 1/2 dozen times i had guys wanting me to confirm they were gay. i wont do that. that is a decission only they can make. usually i say- "you are not"-  the line of thinking if the urge is recurrent eenuff  a gay male will eventually say- hey- i am bi/gay.  the dangerous thing is- once you decide you might be gay- society  never forgets- you are forever labelled gay- even if it was simply a curiousity thing.  if you are sexually attracted to tits and pussy as a male- then you are not gay.  some straights have a tremendous libido and want tons of head. getting a bj from a male doesnt make the male recieving head gay. a small % will try it in reverse- most the time they loath it- while they enjoy good head- the last thing they want to do is to suck a ccck themselfs.

is a blow job sex?  well we could debate this all day.

it perplexes me that a straight man with one penis wants to be in bed with 2 lesbiens.  lesbiens usually dont want men in their bed.  3 ways can be.....well- i dont reccommend them- as one of the parties will walk away shorted- MMM-FFF-MFM,MMF,MFF.

i amazes me how males "just want a friend"- then it must be a female. ok- if it is platonic and sex is not a goal in any way shape or form, how would it matter if it is female???




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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:43:15 AM   
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it perplexes me that a straight man with one penis wants to be in bed with 2 lesbiens. 


I think what he wants is 2 bisexual girls, not necessarily lesbians.


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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:49:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied


quote:

it perplexes me that a straight man with one penis wants to be in bed with 2 lesbiens. 


I think what he wants is 2 bisexual girls, not necessarily lesbians.




i discouraged my brother from having such a 3 way.  did he listen? nope. it started out fun for him. then the 2 girls ditched him- and the two of them got together.  being that he was having feelings for the one- including marriage he took it hard.

of course the girls are to look like rock video babes....young- sexy- big breasts.

how do i tell hom politely- Ed, at 37 if you want that- you have to hire out. [which can be cheaper then divorce]


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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:50:42 AM   
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how do i tell hom politely- Ed, at 37 if you want that- you have to hire out. [which can be cheaper then divorce]


Let him find his own way.  At 37, if he doesn't want to hear it, chances are he's not listening....


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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:51:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied


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it perplexes me that a straight man with one penis wants to be in bed with 2 lesbiens. 


I think what he wants is 2 bisexual girls, not necessarily lesbians.



Katy, correct, and it usually involves a credit card.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 10:53:18 AM   
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Katy, correct, and it usually involves a credit card.


I told you to stay away from those pretty, bisexual Nigerians!


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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 2:57:08 PM   
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quote:

pahunkboy
if i could cure anything- it would be the lonliness many experience- and that certain emptiness of life that many of every walk of life experience


Wow PA I think you have a point there. Not sure that "relationships" necessarily are the answer tho'.
It just seems to be part of what it is to be human.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/7/2007 6:10:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

it perplexes me that a straight man with one penis wants to be in bed with
2 lesbiens. 


I think what he wants is 2 bisexual girls, not necessarily lesbians.



Katy, correct, and it usually involves a credit card.


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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/8/2007 4:38:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		An unqualified nominee from the Bush administration pushed forward for an agenda?  NO!  Say it ain't so... 

So we had a Supreme Court nominee who had never been a doctor, but did think W was peachy keen, and that was good enough for him.  Now we have a doctor who thinks homosexuality is curable.  Which is probably good, considering the horrible harm, damage and mayham he thinks a cock in the ass causes. 

Enough with the nominations to push an agenda already.  I would be ok with Bush and his cronies, if any of his cronies were competant at their jobs.  But it would seem no one at the White House has learned its not a freakin' frat house yet, so we keep getting this nominations and appointments of W's unqualified drinking buddies.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/8/2007 4:49:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		But Daughtry - this is the unfortunate effect of the unsuitable form of government derived from democracy is it not?

When half the voting population are below average intelligence, it stands to reason that those elected and those whom they appoint will need to appeal to such an audience. Its not pushing an agenda, but representing the electors one needs on-side to win elections.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/8/2007 5:52:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		FWIW, we've learned from the religious fanatic, Monica Goodling, that all of the Federal Government has been filled with similarly compromised religious fanatics.

Does it matter if they're Muslim Extremists, or Christian Extremists invading the Offices of the Federal Government?



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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/8/2007 6:06:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the electors express by way of majority vote that they want religious fanaticism, then under democracy, religious fanaticism is the order of the day, surely?

The problem with democracy is that it proposes that every vote is equal and so proposes every opinion to be equally valid. It is inevitable that the stupidest approach will garner the most support.

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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/8/2007 6:12:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		At this point, isn't it obvious that the Donkey in the White house is doing everything possilbe to fuck up the country as much as he can while he still retains a bit of control so that whoever comes in will be handicapped beyond repaired? And that once he's in the private sector, his investors, his buddies in defense departments, his biz aquitences all step in to offer their services to make the necessary corrections to "better" our lives here in the states and abroad.

You have to love Democracy. Wait, Democracy? Not even close. Fascism? Sounds about right.



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RE: "Gay groups decry Surgeon General nominee" - 6/8/2007 2:16:36 PM   
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