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nearnyccouple -> RE: wants vs needs (6/13/2007 5:00:59 PM)
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Now now, sub4hire, be careful those you judge and attempt to condemn. You are not a deity with omnipotent ways to speak of things you know nothing about.
Now, I am going to clarify a few things since you can read but not comprehend. You will note that I have not embellished or changed your words in the least.
Needs are survival.
If you could understand the words I said then you would note that I have stated just that same thing. I understand that you read something entirely different however, let us examine what I did in fact say {Many who have responded here have stated that "needs for survival" even this is not a need it is a choice that you have made to survive, yes you do what is necessary to ensure your survival but the first "want/ desire" is to in fact survive.} Now, as you can see I did say that needs for survival is not a need it is a choice. And it is, one must have the desire to live, if one has no desire to live what reason do they have to exercise that "need."
Without survival, unless you happen to like playing with corpses you have problems.
Your words here indicate that unless I happen to like playing with corpses I have problems.... survival has little to do do with what I enjoy playing with. And it would be the correct statement (if you must judge another) "you have problems if you like playing with corpses" However, what qualifies you to judge another? Do you hold a degree as a Deity? Are you able to walk on water, turn water into wine or even float upon a feather? Be careful whom you judge, you are not qualified to accuse anyone of having problems let alone to attempt to bait me or my girl into an angered type of response. Not that it is the business of anyone however you tread the line on insulting and/or bashing a profession that on occasion where I do deal with corpses as well as severely injured people so make no innuendo or insinuations toward another that you know not. So until you have walked the path that anyone else has, until you have experienced what they do, done all that they have done, made the same decisions that they have judge not what you are not qualified to judge.
Granted someone with zero self esteem doesn't even have an urge to survive so they have no needs, nor wants.
Having zero self esteem does not mean that the person has no urge to survive, again you judge something you are not qualified to judge. I state qualified because none has the right nor the ability to judge another person based upon their choices, their fears, their likes or dislikes. To state someone without self esteem does not have the urge to survive is heinous at the very least. Zero or low self esteem does not count them out of life. By the mere fact that they are still alive disproves this statement
Perhap's that sort of person would be your dream date?
Tsk, Tsk child again a bait toward me. Interesting that your intolerance of others and their beliefs lead you to such childish statements. I do not have to participate in dreams as my reality is wondrous beyond this insinuation/innuendo. Perhaps the old adage of "if you have nothing nice to say it is best to keep the lips zipped" would apply here. However, when one has the ability to sit in judgment of others, it is understandable they don't understand tolerance of others.
You have had this discussion for 6 years and still got nothing out of anything she or other people have said?
Tsk, Tsk you still have eyes yet do not see. If you were not so preoccupied with changing what I stated to fit your tirade here perhaps I would not find myself commenting on it. For the record {and she is grinning as we have had this discussion often over the six plus we have been together... She still says it is a matter of symantecs... I don't disagree with that as to many it is... however, logic and precision of words indicates other wise. } I did not state that we have had this discussion for six years I stated we have often had, I understand that this is where you got confused so you changed my words to fit what you wanted them to say, however if you are going to attempt to comment on something another says you should get closer than you did. Nor did I even remotely state that nothing was ever "got" out of it. In this I too understand that you had to change what I stated to fit your requirements, but again if you are going to judge another at least do so with accuracy. And not that this will add to your education on judging others or tolerance, I do state that many believe in "needs" I however believe that all "needs" are wants or desires. The last time I did check with those whom it matters I am allowed to have personal opinions and feelings. The biggest difference that I see here, is that I do not require that others believe as I do, nor do I condemn others if they do not. Nor do I judge others in their beliefs. Tolerance is often the first victim within this lifestyle, which is sad because so many claim they are in fact tolerant of others however as with your post those that do not fit into your rose colored world, then attacks like the dream date and the playing with corpses comments just have to be bandied about.
Now I have commented on these things with the full knowledge that you will be offended by them, and that you will just have to answer back to get the last word in as well as make greater attempts to goad myself or my pet into lowering ourselves to making crude comments. Do save your breath it takes a lot more than a disgruntled submissive to provide such provocation.
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