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MrrPete -> orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 4:56:16 AM)
Resosiblity for orgasm: As far as I'm concerned that belongs to the individual. When I'm in the final thrusts of intercourse there's a point of no return. Launch cycle has been initiated and there's no aborting the launch without disaster. Now if my partner can orgasm with me that's great but not required for MY orgasm. If she didn't cum with me, well, better luck next time. Only YOU can control YOUR orgasm. Hurry up if you want to match me. Premature ejaculation: Why don't we say delayed orgasm. It's not my fault you can't keep up. It has been my experience that woman have far more control over their orgasm than men have over theirs. Tell them to hold and the will. Tell them to release and again they can do it. I'm sure there are other men like me reach a critical point and there's no stopping a launch. It happens sooner for some later for others but it happens. There is no such thing as premature ejaculation. Every one cums right on schedule. Oh! Did we miss cummimg to gether? I came on time. Did I cum ahead of you? Well, hurry the fuck up next time. Since I do have a propencity to be first and I recognize that I do I have developed foreplay and after play skills to give enjoyment and satisfaction to my partner BUT her orgasm is her responsibility. Not mine. What's your opinion?

Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 5:10:10 AM)
my opinion: i orgasm when i want and she orgasms when i want so really no problems. Since she will usually be "holding" while im building. Women( most of them anyway) seem to have a strange ability to control orgasm. and as you said once i start the thrusters, we have to follow with the launch their is no stopping countdown( and i wouldnt anyway) The sub i am with now has great orgasm control. I can keep her holding for several minutes at a time and once she she orgasms once, i know how to get a second one ready in a matter of seconds. Sigh, if i could orgasm like a woman i would never leave the house.

MsLadySue -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 5:19:08 AM)
What I read here is if my partner is a dud at being able to stimulate me to orgasm, then I better be prepared to finish the job myself if I want to cum. I don't agree that once he starts launch then it's up to me to cum or not as I choose. Any partner worth having is one who will ensure I'm ready too. We may not orgasm together but if he cums first I expect him to assist in bringing mine on too. May be something as simple as sucking my nipples or using his fingers on/in me once flaccid. The job's not finished until Mistress orgasms.

sleazybutterfly -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 5:31:31 AM)
Most of the time M cares whether I orgasm or not and helps me get there...be it orally, with fingers, or with me stimulating while he is fucking me (one of my faves). While it doesn't happen every single time, he does have moments where he prefers to use me and if I cum..great, if not, oh, well. I would say though those are the exception and not the rule. He wants me pleased with my sex life also. I think it's because he knows I will do anything to make sure he gets off really good, so he prefers to return the favor. I do think that one has to take care of their own....but it is nice to have a caring partner (yes, even a Master can be one of those), that will care if you are enjoying the experience as much as they are.

malloves69 -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 5:37:46 AM)
couldnt agree with you any more myladysue ...if my mistress doesnt cum yet from my cock once i do im not afraid to go down on her after i came inside of her to make sure she gets hers too [:)] i think its pretty dang selfish for a male ..sub or dom ...to just rollover like a dog and leave the woman hanging ....last i looked there is 2 people involved in sex and both people are there to have fun ....sure once you cum you get soft but hey thats what your lips and tongue and mouth and fingers are for to make sure she gets hers too [:)] oh yes my mistress and my cum mixed together does taste quite good i might say and i make sure i lick up the mess i made until she is nice and clean after ...love licking up her wetness too [:)] both climaxes are a wonderfull thing to be shared as far as im concerned ...big smile ...mal ...dont leave the lady hanging guys or else she will look else-where for her fun

mistoferin -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 7:25:51 AM)
No such thing as premature ejaculation? OK, well if that makes you feel better about it.... I once dated a man who usually couldn't manage to get his pants off before he orgasmed, and if he did, getting it within target range of entering a pussy sent him over the edge. Then there are those who are done in two strokes. There are men who have never made it past the three minute mark. I guess I've been fortunate that those who have been my partners in the long term haven't had much of an issue with it and I could usually knock off about 10 or 20 of my own before they ever even came close. They were also men who had learned that they had power over their orgasms and could hold off for as long as they wanted. If I were with a partner who was constantly going "well I got mine, get your own" it would be a VERY short relationship. In my opinion, a person who doesn't care about the fulfillment of their partner is selfish. I would even consider them a lousy lover. Even after orgasm there are plenty of things that a couple can do to have BOTH people feeling satisfied and fulfilled in the end.

KatyLied -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 7:29:25 AM)
Well premature ejaculation does exist, regardless of what you call it. In the best physical relationships I had, orgasm had nothing to do with penetration. These were two exceptional lovers who were good at different things and understood how to please a woman. Too bad all men don't have these talents. I would have little use for a partner who did not care about the physical side of the relationship, and even less for one who was so selfish he didn't care to learn about me and what makes my orgasm tick.

MHOO314 -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 8:28:22 AM)
*hmmm how about arrogant, self centered and ignorant about women??*

MrrPete -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 12:56:49 PM)
some people ae reading things not said and not implied and this is from a Male Dominant /femsub few point

MrrPete -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 1:06:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 *hmmm how about arrogant, self centered and ignorant about women??* why don't you post your own opinion on the subject

mistoferin -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 1:08:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrrPete some people ae reading things not said and not implied and this is from a Male Dominant /femsub few point I responded as a female sub to what was written by a Male Dominant.

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 2:08:01 PM)
From what I understand..most male Dominants prefer to have charge of their submissives orgasms..wether they cum or not...sometimes I suppose they want and sometimes they do not care...but I am of the opinion that they still maintain a balance, so that their submissive remains happy, fulfilled and content..If you ,Mr Pete, choose to not care one way or another..then that is of course your choice..of course then you may find many a submissive will end up boycotting you in the end..Tempting

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 4:24:23 PM)
Well it all depends on how you feel about orgasm. Of course one persons orgasm has nothing to do with the other persons orgasm. Nor does caring about one persons orgasm have anything to do with caring about the other persons orgasm. I'm not sure why you decide that your point of orgasm MUST always be the females point of orgasm or there's no way to go back or enjoy afterwards (that's fairly illogical- would you tell everyone to stop eating ice cream when you were finished?), but as long as you're honest about that up front, then your sexual partners will be able to make an informed choice about you.

imthatacheyouhav -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 4:34:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Well it all depends on how you feel about orgasm. Of course one persons orgasm has nothing to do with the other persons orgasm. Nor does caring about one persons orgasm have anything to do with caring about the other persons orgasm. I'm not sure why you decide that your point of orgasm MUST always be the females point of orgasm or there's no way to go back or enjoy afterwards (that's fairly illogical- would you tell everyone to stop eating ice cream when you were finished?), but as long as you're honest about that up front, then your sexual partners will be able to make an informed choice about you. I agree LA, i like not having to guess where someone is coming from...It would be nice if everyone was this honest about themselves.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 4:39:02 PM)
True and obviousy since he says that her orgasm is her responsibility, he'll be fine when she pulls out the dildo and goes to town for an hour playing with herself and getting herself off as much as she likes when he's all done. Or, seriously, if he doesn't care at all about how she orgasms (since it's her responsibility) could she just call up a guy to fuck that night and enjoy all the orgasms she wants with him?

Penseur -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 5:53:18 PM)
I don't see penetration and my personal ejaculation being the center of the universe, or even my own universe or my subbie's! For me, penetration is just a pleasure technique that I use or not. I know how to please my partners and get my own satisfaction in many other ways. Having a synchronized orgasm by penetration is very complicated... unless you have a subbie who can cum on cue, all the time (if you do, enquire about the honnesty of those orgasms she credits you for). I prefer to take my time to play with her and let her have some pleasure if I chose to, and then have both of us concentrating on my own pleasure, not nessarily in this sequence or both in the same session. I can easily spend 4 or 5 hours playing with a subbie giving her half a dozen orgasms and be fully satisfied of my control over her... before I feel the need to empty my balls. Penseur

MrrPete -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 7:25:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross True and obviousy since he says that her orgasm is her responsibility, he'll be fine when she pulls out the dildo and goes to town for an hour playing with herself and getting herself off as much as she likes when he's all done. Or, seriously, if he doesn't care at all about how she orgasms (since it's her responsibility) could she just call up a guy to fuck that night and enjoy all the orgasms she wants with him? LA I love your replies. But please, don't asume I don't care about my partners orgasm. when the countdown hits zero and the launch gycle begins I have enough on my platter to be cocerned about. I ensure before or after that she has at least one orgasm, more if she's multi-orgasmic. I also enjoy watching a woman masterbate. :) my original comment did not say there was no foreplay. There's foreplay, afterplay and aftercare.

imthatacheyouhav -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 7:29:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrrPete Resosiblity for orgasm: As far as I'm concerned that belongs to the individual. When I'm in the final thrusts of intercourse there's a point of no return. Launch cycle has been initiated and there's no aborting the launch without disaster. Now if my partner can orgasm with me that's great but not required for MY orgasm. If she didn't cum with me, well, better luck next time. Only YOU can control YOUR orgasm. Hurry up if you want to match me. Premature ejaculation: Why don't we say delayed orgasm. It's not my fault you can't keep up. It has been my experience that woman have far more control over their orgasm than men have over theirs. Tell them to hold and the will. Tell them to release and again they can do it. I'm sure there are other men like me reach a critical point and there's no stopping a launch. It happens sooner for some later for others but it happens. There is no such thing as premature ejaculation. Every one cums right on schedule. Oh! Did we miss cummimg to gether? I came on time. Did I cum ahead of you? Well, hurry the fuck up next time. Since I do have a propencity to be first and I recognize that I do I have developed foreplay and after play skills to give enjoyment and satisfaction to my partner BUT her orgasm is her responsibility. Not mine. What's your opinion? Yep sounds caring to me...LOL

Sinergy -> RE: orgasm - premature ejaculation (6/10/2007 7:52:27 PM)
Sometimes I want to feel her cum a few times. Sometimes I want her to get almost there and tell her not to cum. Seems to work. Sinergy

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