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Intentions behind terms - 6/10/2007 8:12:13 PM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		i wanted to ask those of you out there who care to contemplate my question and form an opinion on what you think of the term "subbie"?  There is one term for slave, yet three for subs (submissive, and subbie).   To the dom/mes who use it - do you ever use it as a term of endearment, or do you admit it's said sometimes in a mocking tone? 

i presonally dislike the term, i think the way i percieve it's used at times denotes disdain and has a "looking down upon" aspect to it. It feels at times like the speaker is poking fun at subs by calling them "subbie", intentionally trying to belittle them or their chosen path.  i have never heard a slave called "slavie" How would slaves feel about that?  Would you feel indifferent, insulted, amused, etc? 

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/10/2007 8:30:39 PM   
Quivver


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Status: offline 		The term ~subbie~ turns my stomach, always has. 
It's condensending and plastic to my ears. 
I hate it.


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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/10/2007 8:40:57 PM   
szobras


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Status: offline 		To me it's just another slang term. Since I know there are those that do find it offensive, it's one I don't need to use.

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/10/2007 9:10:30 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I would not consider a dominant that used the term, but I do not care if other people use it. I do not like it myself, but to each their own.

I do not spend much time considering the quantitative differences between myself and slaves... it just does not matter to me. What matters to me is that my Daddy is happy with who I am, not what other people label me.

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/10/2007 9:13:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's because it has that '-ie' suffix which makes it dimunitive and therefore patronising and condescending. Compare:

sub and 'subbie'

transvestite and 'trannie'

lad (young man) and 'laddie'

postman and 'postie'

soldier or private and 'squaddie'

This is my theory. You can try it by trying to address a Dom as a 'dommie' - see how they react.

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/10/2007 9:17:43 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		It sounds very trite.
I never used it.

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 12:32:42 AM   
RCdc


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I do not like to shorten words, so I do not use it and it is a slang term to me.
I dislike it, but it isn't something that is going to infect me negatively in a huge way.
 
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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 1:46:23 AM   
CuriousLord


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Status: offline 		How I typically use the terms:

submissive- Anyone that's submissive.  Bottoms, subs, slaves, pets: they all find themselves in this catigory.  The term refers to submission, but not the degree of it.

sub-  A type of submissive.  Follows guidance and some orders, but maintains limits and responsiblity for self.

subbie-  "sub", only in a more cutesie manner.  This term may be used condescendingly or in sincere endearment.

This said, I can't recall ever using the word "subbie" (outside of referring to another's statement or the word itself).  I don't find it particularly cute nor do I have reason to put someone down for being submissive.

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 2:49:22 AM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		I will often use the terms of "slave/sub" for the sake of brevity
in written communication, and say "submissive" or "slave" when speaking.
 
If I am calling someone a "cute little subbie", that is a term
of endearment with someone who appreciates the sentiment.
 
YMMV,
 
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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 3:25:52 AM   
slaveluci


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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears
i presonally dislike the term, i think the way i percieve it's used at times denotes disdain and has a "looking down upon" aspect to it.  It feels at times like the speaker is poking fun at subs by calling them "subbie", intentionally trying to belittle them or their chosen path.
Hello velvet,
I tend to feel the same way.  I know it's often used in a context that isn't belittling but something about it rubs me the wrong way. 
i have never heard a slave called "slavie" How would slaves feel about that?  Would you feel indifferent, insulted, amused, etc? 
LOL - I would definitely find that funny as it just sounds silly to me.  I've kind of used (and seen others use) a term similar to that: "slaviest slave."  This would be in reference to one who sees herself as the epitome of "what a slave is" or should be and who is always trying to "out do" others or seem "slavier."  But just the term "slavie?"  That's a good one......slavie...errr, i mean, slave luci


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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 4:57:07 AM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		Thanks everyone i am glad to know i am not alone in finding the term offensive.  LOL i love the alternative dommie - i doubt many would appreciate that endearment, i will have to store that little tid bit the next time i see subbie and use it. 

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 4:59:06 AM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		When i first thought about the term slavie i had this visual of Master Howell on Gilligans Island calling his wife "slavie" lol

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 6:36:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I instantly dismiss anyone who uses it and this thread provides another charming example of why..

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RE: Intentions behind terms - 6/11/2007 9:08:40 AM   
slaveboyforyou


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Status: offline 		I don't really think people mean to be condescending or mocking when they say that.  I have a friend named James, and we all call him Jimmy.  It isn't meant to keep him in a perpetual state of childhood.  It's just name that shows familiarity and closeness.  I don't see the word sub as being anymore better than subbie.  After all, sub is a common word for a submarine or a sandwich.  That doesn't mean that you are being called a sandwich when someone says that.  We all need to lighten up a little bit when it comes to words.  They only cause discomfort and offense when you allow them to.

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