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When is a slave no longer a slave?


When she stops acting like one
  20% (7)
When the Master allows her to not be one
  14% (5)
Both take blame
  20% (7)
none of the above
  45% (16)


Total Votes : 35
(last vote on : 2/4/2008 3:11:51 AM)
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cjenny -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 5:45:37 PM)

None of the above.

IMO it is more in the lines of when the person no longer identifies inside with the need to be a slave.




xBullx -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 6:10:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe

Greetings Master Bull,

We have been around this particular barrell about a thousand times in the Gorean forum and will probably race around it again in the near future.  It seems to fairer that since this is a site designed to allow people to meet and hopefully find the person(s) they seek, then the self identification as slave is to let potential Masters know who and what she is.  Were this merely and information exchange, she would say FW, because that is what she is. 

But lets be realistic, you aren't on CM primarily to read what Leonidas or Rapture have to say.  You are here to find a slave.  Maybe two or three, and if you had to sort through all the submissive females to find the kajira in the hay stack, you would probably get a little disillusioned and frustrated not having other parameters with which to conduct your search.

Perhaps fairer's alligator size mouth is getting her in trouble again, Master, she does not know.  She does ask that we apply a little reason and rationale to the discussion.  After all, it is only within the community of believers in Gorean philos that it matters who thinks of her as slave anyway.  It's not as if she has "slave" printed on her business card.

may she wish you well,

fairer than she



Greetings slutling,

Now let me get this straight. You're upset at me because CM doesn't have a specific title that fits you well enough? Fairer, I could give a flipped shit if you want to be a slave or not. I judge you as you are seen in my eyes. You act like a slave so I treat you like one. But I'll title you as one when you are the property of someone. Until that point you are simply in my mind a very, very submissive and needing female. I determine what you are to me, you don't tell me what you are. Your actions will speak volumes and you may inspire an owner.

I could care less why anyone comes to CollarMe or why they're here. I have my mindset, my motivations and my reasons, period. You are a submissive slut, a rather delicious one, but all the same, you are unowned, hense free and accountable to and for yourself. You girls must one day understand that the picture is not about us as individuals, it is about the community. Act as you do and one day soon enough your dreams will be answered.

Him,

Bull




fairerthanshe -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 6:19:09 PM)

Greetings Master Bull,

fairer thanks you for this rather pointed clarification of your thoughts on the matter.

may she wish you well,

fairer than she




dawntreader -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 6:20:13 PM)

Wow!! 48% say none of the above!
i think i will go with the majority as i am in the mood for a party[:D]




Lordandmaster -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 6:35:46 PM)

Then you're a free woman waiting for someone to enslave you.

I see "submissive" as an orientation that you're born with (or whatever, that's a different discussion), and "slave" as a role that you occupy when someone else owns you.  Same goes for "dom" and "master": you can be born a dom, but I don't see how you can be a master unless you own a slave.

quote:

ORIGINAL: drawntothedark

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

A slave is no longer a slave when she is no longer someone else's property.

Wow, that was simple.


then what do you call a slave with no Master?
Some women identify with a slave. Some with a submissive. So if you identify as a slave but have no Master - then......what are you?




slavegirljoy -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 6:50:47 PM)

When is a slave no longer a slave?

i have no idea, since i have never known anyone who was a slave and then stopped being a slave. 
 
i can't even imagine no longer being a slave.  i have, at times, been a "free slave", when i was between Masters but, i was still a slave.   i was unowned and i wasn't anyone's property, while i was a free slave but, i was still a slave.  i would have to stop being me, to no longer be a slave. 
 
Being a slave isn't something i do.  It's who i am.  i would have to stop living, to no longer be a slave. 
 
i'm honestly baffled by the whole idea of no longer being a slave.  i think it would be interesting to hear from any former slaves who no longer consider themself as such and why that is.  As for me, i don't have any answer to this question.
 
slave joy
Owned property of Master David




darchChylde -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 6:53:42 PM)

when he/she is used as an an ottoman?




slavegirljoy -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/13/2007 7:36:44 PM)

this slave is frequently used by her Master as an ottoman/footstool.
 
slave joy
Owned property of Master David

quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde

when he/she is used as an an ottoman?




fyreredsub -> RE: When is a slave no longer a slave? (6/14/2007 6:21:25 AM)

hey ya'll

i want to thank you for posting your thoughts[:)]
it was an eye opener




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