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What's with all these secret govn't crap? - 6/15/2007 12:50:20 AM

cyberdude611

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Again Senators made deals behind closed doors to get the stalled immigration bill back on the Senate floor.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070614/ap_on_go_co/bush_immigration

What is with these closed door meetings? I don't really give a damn what is in this bill at this point. This bill was agreed to in secret without it going through a committee, without research as to how it will be enforced or how much it will cost. On that principle alone...it should be killed. Why is immigration debate being done behind closed doors?

I am so utterly sick of this bullshit! It seems this government doesn't give a damn about the people anymore. It's all about money, lies, and corporations.
And everyone wonders why Congress's approval rating is in the 20s?

I've informed both my Senators that I will actively assist their opposition when they are again up for re-election. Both have approval ratings in the low 30s right now...

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RE: What's with all these secret govn't crap? - 6/15/2007 12:54:25 AM

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Look at this as good news. People'll be used to this sort of thing by the time I reign as 'Supreme Overlord of All Reality and Some Parts of Imaginary Places, Too'.

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RE: What's with all these secret govn't crap? - 6/15/2007 12:59:06 AM

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Why? Because they don't want the American People to see the details of this (ahem) ..."Bill."

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RE: What's with all these secret govn't crap? - 6/15/2007 1:11:52 AM

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It is business as usual on the Beltway.

I think that the two issues of immigration reform and border security need
to be examined and addressed separately for the sake of clarity and focus.

Reactions from various Presidential candidates -

The New York Times

"Senators in Bipartisan Deal on Immigration Bill"

By ROBERT PEAR and JIM RUTENBERG
Published: May 18, 2007

"Many of the presidential candidates reacted cautiously to the agreement.

Senator Barack Obama, Democrat of Illinois, said he “did not want to prejudge the deal” before he had an opportunity to study the legislation. Mr. Obama said that he favored strengthening border security and creating a pathway to citizenship, but that he was troubled by the temporary-worker system and the proposed point system.

“Those two things represent significant changes,” Mr. Obama said. “Whether they work to stabilize the immigration system and whether they are just and human is something that I’m still concerned about.”

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, said she had not had an opportunity to review the proposal.

Mrs. Clinton said she would examine the proposal “to see if it honors our nation’s principles and proud immigrant heritage while also respecting the rule of law.”

John Edwards, another Democratic candidate, said he had concerns about parts of the proposal, including a “poorly conceived guest worker program.”

Among the major Republican contenders, immigration has been a potentially troubling issue for Mr. McCain and Rudolph W. Giuliani because of their previous stances.

Another Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, issued a blistering denunciation of the proposal, saying it was “unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S.” "

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/18/washington/18immig.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5070&en=07f97201d257144b&ex=1182052800

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