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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 2:52:41 PM   
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well if that means that all the good looking straight women will become gay .. then i am ALL for it ... never have enough women around .... 


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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 3:18:40 PM   
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So, say for some reason I was in the opposing army and this bomb went off........ what (or maybe who) would I do?

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If we dropped it, how long would we have to wait before we sent troops in?

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 3:21:27 PM   
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p.s.  I think I have finally figured out why Republicans do not want gay men serving in the military.

p.p.s.  I dont recall his name, but the guy on John Stewart pointed out that while the Republicans are all up in arms about the possibility of another terrorist attack, the thing they fear more is this being prevented by a homosexual.


In 1994 when this was proposed William Jefferson Blythe Clinton was Commander and Chief of the United States Armed Forces. BTW, this proposal was made after, Bubba reneged on a compaign promes to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the Military,

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 3:25:27 PM   
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p.s.  I think I have finally figured out why Republicans do not want gay men serving in the military.

p.p.s.  I dont recall his name, but the guy on John Stewart pointed out that while the Republicans are all up in arms about the possibility of another terrorist attack, the thing they fear more is this being prevented by a homosexual.


In 1994 when this was proposed William Jefferson Blythe Clinton was Commander and Chief of the United States Armed Forces. BTW, this proposal was made after, Bubba reneged on a compaign promes to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the Military,


Good point.  A Democratic President forced to pander to the reactionary bigotry and fear of homosexuality and general anti-sexuality (rife, of course, with illicit sexual scandals) in the Republican-controlled Congress (elected by and supported by the large showing of millenialist pentacostals) in order to obtain passage of an agreement to keep people from going nuts and forcing it to go all the way to the Supreme Court.

Thank you for supporting my position so succinctly.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 3:34:23 PM   
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The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress from January of 1993 to January of 1995. They held the purse strings for all Military budget items during that time. For the total of 1994, The United States Air Force answered to a Democrat Commander and was under the oversight of a Democrat Congress.

In that time, the Democrats failed thier electorate in among other things, a promise of unversial heath care as well as the promise to allow open homosexuality with in the Armed Forces.

"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is a Clinton/Democrat House and Senate creation. 

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 4:02:58 PM   
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So, say for some reason I was in the opposing army and this bomb went off........ what (or maybe who) would I do?

E


If we dropped it, how long would we have to wait before we sent troops in?

Sinergy


That depends on which troops were sent in Synergy!

And I cant tell you that - careless talk costs.....well, costs.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 4:06:24 PM   
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Nope... Worong again.

The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress from January of 1993 to January of 1995. They held the purse strings for all Military budget items during that time. For the total of 1994, The United States Air Force answered to a Democrat Commander and was under the oversight of a Democrat Congress.

In that time, the Democrats failed thier electorate in among other things, a promise of unversial heath care as well as the promise to allow open homosexuality with in the Armed Forces.

"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is a Clinton/Democrat House and Senate creation. 


You are correct, Congress did not become controlled by the Republicans until the end of 1995, and Dont Ask, Dont Tell was implemented prior to that.  Of course, prior to the Republicans taking over, Congress generally worked on the principle of negotiation, so my point still stands since:

1)  Any attempt to pass a law allowing homosexuals to serve in the military would have been shot down by the Republicans in Congress.

2)  Any attempt to pass a law preventing homosexuals from serving in the military would have been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

You may not be familiar with the concept of "compromise," but that is exactly what Dont Ask, Dont Tell was.

Your comment about the United States Air Force commander is not relevant.  He takes orders from the President, who technically takes orders from Congress, who generally pass laws based on Constitutional principles, which are interpreted by the Supreme Court.  Or at least that is how things are supposed to run when literate and intelligent people get elected and read their job description.

I do find it amusing that the electorate was failed by the Democrats according to you.  How exactly do you word what the Republicans have done to their electorate under AnencephalyBoy?  Was trashing our economy, embroiling us in and endless imperialistic war, destroying our international credibility as well as credit rating, and indebting future generations to pay for all this what you people elected them to do?

I cant wait to hear your inarticulate spin justifying the mess the Republican controlled Congress and AnencephalyBoy/Shotgun have left for other people to clean up.

Sinergy

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 4:12:23 PM   
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It just occurred to me that this would not be cost effective. 
 
The re-training of our troops to fight "hand in hand" combatants could cost billions.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 4:15:47 PM   
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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 5:58:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I imagine the lab researcher's christmas parties would be fun.

But can you imagine if we developed it and then the terrorist wannabes got hold of it?
Congress in session? Yuck.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 6:00:59 PM   
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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 8:06:47 PM   
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I cant wait to hear your inarticulate spin justifying the mess the Republican controlled Congress and AnencephalyBoy/Shotgun have left for other people to clean up.

Sinergy



That is another thread is it not?

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 8:20:27 PM   
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You are correct, Congress did not become controlled by the Republicans until the end of 1995, and Dont Ask, Dont Tell was implemented prior to that.  Of course, prior to the Republicans taking over, Congress generally worked on the principle of negotiation, so my point still stands since:

1)  Any attempt to pass a law allowing homosexuals to serve in the military would have been shot down by the Republicans in Congress.

2)  Any attempt to pass a law preventing homosexuals from serving in the military would have been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

You may not be familiar with the concept of "compromise," but that is exactly what Dont Ask, Dont Tell was.

Your comment about the United States Air Force commander is not relevant.  He takes orders from the President, who technically takes orders from Congress, who generally pass laws based on Constitutional principles, which are interpreted by the Supreme Court.  Or at least that is how things are supposed to run when literate and intelligent people get elected and read their job description.



The Republican Party regained control of the House in the beginning of 1995 not late 1995.

Some of the WORST acts of Congress have been compromise acts. Compromise rarely if ever solves issues, it only delays them for someone else to deal with.

Finally, The Democrats had the numbers to pass all kinds of legislation and have it signed into law from Jan 1993 to the end of Dec, 1994 and did nothing, REPEAT, nothing for two years. They controlled both Houses and the Presidency and that is a fact. You can cry about later Republican failures all you want but it is not germane.

The "Gay Bomb" is clearly in the "Absurd Things in a Democrat Administration" pile.  They own it pure and simple.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 8:44:33 PM   
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As part of a military effort to develop non-lethal weapons, the proposal suggested, "One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior."


Would that be called "fighting outside the box" then? 

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 10:59:08 PM   
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and included ways to make troops have bad breath, bad
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"US military pondered love not war"
  
 Last Updated: Saturday, 15 January 2005, 06:38 GMT
 
"The US military investigated building a "gay bomb", which would make enemy soldiers "sexually irresistible" to each other, government papers say. "

"Other weapons that never saw the light of day include one to make soldiers obvious by their bad breath.

The US defence department considered various non-lethal chemicals meant to disrupt enemy discipline and morale.

The 1994 plans were for a six-year project costing $7.5m, but they were never pursued.

The US Air Force Wright Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio, sought Pentagon funding for research into what it called "harassing, annoying and 'bad guy'-identifying chemicals".

The plans were obtained under the US Freedom of Information by the Sunshine Project, a group which monitors research into chemical and biological weapons.
 
'Who? Me?'

The plan for a so-called "love bomb" envisaged an aphrodisiac chemical that would provoke widespread homosexual behaviour among troops, causing what the military called a "distasteful but completely non-lethal" blow to morale.

Scientists also reportedly considered a "sting me/attack me" chemical weapon to attract swarms of enraged wasps or angry rats towards enemy troops.
 
A substance to make the skin unbearably sensitive to sunlight was also pondered.

Another idea was to develop a chemical causing "severe and lasting halitosis", so that enemy forces would be obvious even when they tried to blend in with civilians.
 
In a variation on that idea, researchers pondered a "Who? Me?" bomb, which would simulate flatulence in enemy ranks.
 
Indeed, a "Who? Me?" device had been under consideration since 1945, the government papers say.

However, researchers concluded that the premise for such a device was fatally flawed because "people in many areas of the world do not find faecal odour offensive, since they smell it on a regular basis".

Captain Dan McSweeney of the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate at the Pentagon said the defence department receives "literally hundreds" of project ideas, but that "none of the systems described in that [1994] proposal have been developed".

He told the BBC: "It's important to point out that only those proposals which are deemed appropriate, based on stringent human effects, legal, and international treaty reviews are considered for development or acquisition."  "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4174519.stm

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 11:08:25 PM   
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p.s.  I think I have finally figured out why Republicans do not want gay men serving in the military.

p.p.s.  I dont recall his name, but the guy on John Stewart pointed out that while the Republicans are all up in arms about the possibility of another terrorist attack, the thing they fear more is this being prevented by a homosexual.


In 1994 when this was proposed William Jefferson Blythe Clinton was Commander and Chief of the United States Armed Forces. BTW, this proposal was made after, Bubba reneged on a compaign promes to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the Military,


Is it possible for you to ever make a post that would give others the notion that you don't have a wide screen tv that only gets one station, which happens to be FOX, shoved up your ass?

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 11:27:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Several years ago a book was published about strange weapons the military was thinking of making.  One was a "Bat Bomb"  A canister that designed to break open on impact.  Inside were bats that carried rabies, the idea was use it on the Germans.  It was hoped  that this would cause a mass evacuation of cities and would cause such a jam on the road the German army would not be able to use them to transport reenforcements to the front. 
 
The Commanding General of the B-29s during WW2 got permission from President Trueman to change from explosive to insindary bombs.  Over 90% of the buildings in Japan at that time were made of paper and wood.  Even as the treating was being signed..a third of Tokyo was burning out of control...many believed the A bomb just because of this was unnessary.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/18/2007 11:34:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is that true?  Christ, would that have been ineffective.  How exactly are the bats supposed to be hanging out inside the bomb while they're waiting to be released?  They'd tear each other to shreds.  One characteristic of rabid bats, inconvenient from the point of view of a weapons-maker, is that they tend to attack one another, and soon thereafter die of rabies.

I'd just fill the fucking bombs with nerve gas, but I'm told that's against the rules.

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Several years ago a book was published about strange weapons the military was thinking of making.  One was a "Bat Bomb"  A canister that designed to break open on impact.  Inside were bats that carried rabies, the idea was use it on the Germans.  It was hoped  that this would cause a mass evacuation of cities and would cause such a jam on the road the German army would not be able to use them to transport reenforcements to the front.

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/19/2007 3:52:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		All these twats at the Pentagon doing research must be utterly fucking stupid. I have come up with a foolproof delivery system for almost any chemical, just sitting here in my living room. Given what these idiots are paid, I'm loathe to tell without making a significant charge (USD 7.5 million seems a good figure), but what the hell.

It doesnt matter one jot how much any nation hates the US. The Germans in WWII, in Russia at the height of the cold war, even in the depths of Vietnam, and today in Iraq and Afghanistan, which cigarette brands are the enemy smoking? American ones. Because whilst not necessarily the best, they are the most well known and glamorous.

So, all that needs to happen is for a convoy of said cigarettes to be captured, or for an airdrop of said smokes to go astray into enemy territory. The enemy gleefully smoke themselves silly on Lucky Strike or imagine themselves to be that Marlboro man out in Wyoming or Arizona or wherever it was the ads were made.

Since second hand smoke is equally dangerous of course, it wouldnt matter if only a few members of any enemy unit actually lit up. See? Foolproof.

Next day, theyre all fucking each other daft, whilst complaining of bad breath, fighting off swarms of rodents/insects/bats and getting badly sunburnt. Or any other unpleasantness one can engineer.

Wouldnt work on us though - no smoking in enclosed public places or workplaces from 1st July in England. And that includes barracks, tanks and trench systems. I can see that working.

E

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RE: "Pentagon confirms it sought to build a 'Gay B... - 6/19/2007 8:29:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		a pussy juice bomb would work better. let off the chemical that stimalates/simulates the smell/fragrence of pussy juice.

the men will be so distracted- they will take a break to masterbate- if the army allows masterbation.

it could be like a pied piper thing too. follow the pussy juice trail to the boobytrap. it would work just like marriage?

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