Termyn8or
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Now y'got me all confused here. I dunno if I agree or disagree.
As far as forums go, I believe the software used here is apsplayground, and I think if a moderator were to abuse their power and suppress an opposing opinion, it would show up as a deleted post. You've seen "Message edited by Mod XX to remove email address", stuff like the. To really get rid of it the thread would have to be deleted.
I am not sure about it but I think it's true, but it doesn't matter.
My ancestors came to this country and learned the language. They got jobs, built THEIR OWN house(s), WALKED across this great country and back in their younger days. Raised children who are productive and NONE of us took anything from the government.
There is one circumstance you might take as an exception, my Father got welfare for a short time a long time ago. But he used to make about $40,000 a year back in the late 70s. He got nothing back he didn't pay in. You be the judge.
So we are a net asset to this country. My Dad's retired, but that is not taking, he is 68, that is them giving back some of what they took. But a while back he was on the team that engineered the prototype of the machines that manufactured the first floppy disks. His Father worked in a knitting mill, and found a way to fix a manufacturer's defect in the machines. They flew him all expense paid to their factory, put him up in a hotel and paid him $500 a day to teach them how to fix their product correctly. And this was before I was born, I was born in 1960. His Father (my Greatgrandfather) built a really huge house, practically a mansion, almost by himself. Of course he needed physical help, but it was his concept.
Where are immigrants like that today ?
Unfortunately I can tell you that too, they are doing well and do not emmigrate.
Now everyone here in the US except Blacks, or if you prefer African-Americans for now, has ancestors who abandoned their country of origin. I am not saying hold it against them, they mostly did what they thought was right. But where was their patriotism there ?
Immigration is a touchy subject for everybody. And I am gaining a pretty serious respect for Black people. White people took thousand of years to develop to this point. Decendents of slaves, well, their ancestors were yanked out of the jungle, beaten into submission and used as labor. Nobody in my family would do that, but it still happened. And we weren't here yet.
But the point is, dragged out of the jungle a scant 200 years or so ago, decendents of slaves have become doctors, lawyers, big businessmen and the like. Whites have stagnated intellectually in the meantime. If this trend continues what do you think is going to happen ? It used to be illegal to teach them English !
The government should not give anything to anybody. In the words of David Crockett "It is not ours to give". Yes, Davey was a congressman for a couple of terms. If you'd like to know more about that particular subject just Google for "Horatio Bunch".
I would like to see bright people come here for more opportunity, I really would, as long as that is not a welfare check.
In my fictional book, after a revolution, the People tore down the statue of liberty and put up a sign. It reads something like "Send us you best, your thinkers, your leaders and intellectuals. The USA is no longer a dump".
So you get the idea, I am a racist, but not the way most think. I harbor no bigotery for any race, and it is my own accomplishments and knowledge that might make me superior to another, and indeed race may have something to do with it. But I am in no way superior, or anything in fact due to my lineage. It is what I have done, none other. I judge each person by their own words and actions. And they say "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself", go ahead and judge me.
I try to surround myself with quality people, that's why I am here. I said something about rap music in another post. That was in no way racist, I know plenty of white boys who listen to the crap. And in this context 'crap' is an opinion, nothing more. I'm sure they think about the same about my Hank Williams Jr.
But I was here first.
If I went to another country I would try to learn the language, be productive and embrace the culture. If immigrants, legal or illegal did that, I would never have a problem with them.
As a species we need to take the blinders off. We need to see that there are people of quality and people who are not. This has nothing to do with race or country of origin. This has to do with their intentions and actions.
With that, I am off to shake up another thread.
T
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