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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 3:04:07 PM   
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Frankly, I wouldn't consider any woman I haven't met in person yet to be 'considered' for collaring.  I've had women expect it in the past, and 'online' considering collars are a hard limit for me.

As for his desire to meet other people, be it for business or pleasure, frankly I would say that's his business until you've actually met him.  I wouldn't put off a coffee date with a live woman, because I was afraid my cybergirlfriend might get jealous.  For me, real life meetings come first, last, and in between.  I would ask myself, if I were you, if you'd turn down a date with a man you genuinely liked from work because you felt it would be unfair to the online Dom you've never met?

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 3:39:11 PM   
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It doesn't seem like she so much cares whether he dates anyone or not, it's more than he is expecting her not to in the meantime.  There is often times a double-standard for doms/subs, we are expected to quit looking and talking to anyone else, while they go off on their merry way.  By her putting that she is under consideration for his collar on her profile, it will cut down on people she will meet, he on the other hand can write subs/slaves at a whim and they know nothing about her even existing.

If one that has never met me, or one that had met me expected me to quit looking, or to quit putting myself out there with other doms...he would and should be expected to do the same (not counting poly).  There are exceptions of course, as there is with anything, but it should all be out there in the open regardless.

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 4:05:20 PM   
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Thanks everyone But I don't think I want  any more dramam . I talked to him more and now the skeletons come out.. And I don't need the drama or tension.. Life is too short to take for granted.. So I may just forget the whole thing now..Oh I am sure many have talked to him and many will .. I love excitement but not a situation to where you have to be discrimative.Its not me.. I have nothing to hide why should anyone else have skeletons dangling around.. So thank you all for the comments I took them all to heart .. It was a honor to been able to get wonderful opinions...Thanks again  be happy always 

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 4:06:29 PM   
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When I met Master, I told him from the beginning that I would not change anything in my profile until he agreed to do the same.  I have had too many doms write me, and then I found they had others that had changed their profile for them..thinking they were the doms only one.  If it says they are still looking...chances are, they are.  I would keep that in mind.


Not always. We're monogamous and together four years now. But he didn't change his profile until I asked why he hadn't, over six months after I was collared. His response was that it didn't matter, nobody was writing him and he wasn't writing anybody else so he hadn't even thought about it. He did update it then to humor me. But in the four years I don't think he ever got one unsolicited email while I'm still getting the trolls who can't read send me trash.

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 4:32:02 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly

When I met Master, I told him from the beginning that I would not change anything in my profile until he agreed to do the same.  I have had too many doms write me, and then I found they had others that had changed their profile for them..thinking they were the doms only one.  If it says they are still looking...chances are, they are.  I would keep that in mind.


Not always. We're monogamous and together four years now. But he didn't change his profile until I asked why he hadn't, over six months after I was collared. His response was that it didn't matter, nobody was writing him and he wasn't writing anybody else so he hadn't even thought about it. He did update it then to humor me. But in the four years I don't think he ever got one unsolicited email while I'm still getting the trolls who can't read send me trash.


That's why I said "chances are" he is looking.  There is always an exception(s) to any rule, and you found one.  I don't think mine says I am not looking, but I am very much collared (though it does if one takes time to read my journal).  It's all in the motives of the one looking, or not looking..whatever the case.

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 4:42:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: serenity51

I wanted to ask anyone who may know the answer .. Should a Dom state in their profile that they have someone in consideration? The sub will but what if he doesn't and still has His saying searching for a sub/slave still? Could you consider that being devoted and dedicated to the one under consideration..? In my heart I know its not proper and not right and I know this could be a dangerous situation if not dealt with it right.. There is something else that bothers me about this Dominant.. He states he has his own business ,haircutting,but it is in his condo...This is very dangerous especially if there's no proof to the subs/slaves of this business except to go to his place and find out for sure...\

Now in my opinion he is advertising to every sub/slave to have their hair done and thats why he won't say in his profile he has someone under consideration,he lures them there and who knows what happens.. so much for the trust being there,..He may be deceiiving his sub under consideration and every woman online who reads his profile..But how do we prove it... Thanks all comments welcome.. And no he says nothing about being a saist or poly in any way.. thanks for the comments  I use to be lilserenity here commenting but lost my nic so Im this one now yuk anyway helppppp me get this matter handled  with your opinions..


I don't think that a profile matters all that much.  Until I mentioned it to my owner, he hadn't even noticed that he didn't have me in his collarme profile and I'm sure that he has other profiles other places where he doesn't mention me at all.  Thats fine with me, I don't expect ode's of devotion to me in his profile and I know where I stand. 

I have him in my profile because I know that people look at profiles to see if people are available and since we are (currently) looking for something fairly specific I figured a profile was a good place to put it.  But basically I wouldn't put to much stock in someones profile and their putting that they have someone under consideration in the profile - I wouldn't put someone in my profile just because I was dating them and thinking about being owned by them.

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 4:48:21 PM   
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Serenity51, you have stated more than once in this thread that something bothers you about this guy and that you don't feel safe meeting him and that your gut tells you something is wrong. In my opinion, listen to your gut and stop. I am ignoring the other stuff in your post since I don't have an opinion on it and really don't think it is the key issue here.

The issue here is that you don't feel right about this guy and as such, why are you even considering meeting him? Do not meet this guy, let him go and you need to look for someone else; someone that doesn't make your gut send up the red flag. Please do not meet someone that your gut tells you is wrong or unsafe. This is true whether you are talking about BDSM dating or vanilla dating. People are people and if this feels wrong...walk away. Period.

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 5:06:27 PM   
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W/we have on ours that we are courting one.  It also says that we are also still looking to add another and that the one that we are courting is aware of this fact.  W/we believe that honesty is the best.  That we there are no misconceptions and such.
 
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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 5:16:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

quote:

ORIGINAL: serenity51

I wanted to ask anyone who may know the answer .. Should a Dom state in their profile that they have someone in consideration? The sub will but what if he doesn't and still has His saying searching for a sub/slave still? Could you consider that being devoted and dedicated to the one under consideration..? In my heart I know its not proper and not right and I know this could be a dangerous situation if not dealt with it right.. There is something else that bothers me about this Dominant.. He states he has his own business ,haircutting,but it is in his condo...This is very dangerous especially if there's no proof to the subs/slaves of this business except to go to his place and find out for sure...\

Now in my opinion he is advertising to every sub/slave to have their hair done and thats why he won't say in his profile he has someone under consideration,he lures them there and who knows what happens.. so much for the trust being there,..He may be deceiiving his sub under consideration and every woman online who reads his profile..But how do we prove it... Thanks all comments welcome.. And no he says nothing about being a saist or poly in any way.. thanks for the comments  I use to be lilserenity here commenting but lost my nic so Im this one now yuk anyway helppppp me get this matter handled  with your opinions..



I dont state who I have under consideration,I expect the submissives to make that note.
I do however post on Positive Meetings and if I collar someone.


I can see if the sub can put the person they are under consideration to..that might make a bit of a difference.  That way any sub that comes across it can know what's going on.

Just a side note:  You sound very suspicious of this dom already.  There is a reason you feel that way, and it's something you should probably trust.  He might be ok, but you seem to have red flags going on everyplace that you are hoping will vanish with time, or after you meet.  Chances are it won't get better, and you will be in it more fully than you are now.

If you really think he is the only one for you, nothing will stop you.  I can assure you though that there are plenty of other doms out there, no matter what he tells you.  By putting you under consideration, he is making sure you are off the market...by keeping his the same, he is very much keeping his options open.  I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be the one that he takes if no one else better came along.



Ummm huh what...am I missing something??

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 6:14:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

quote:

ORIGINAL: serenity51

I wanted to ask anyone who may know the answer .. Should a Dom state in their profile that they have someone in consideration? The sub will but what if he doesn't and still has His saying searching for a sub/slave still? Could you consider that being devoted and dedicated to the one under consideration..? In my heart I know its not proper and not right and I know this could be a dangerous situation if not dealt with it right.. There is something else that bothers me about this Dominant.. He states he has his own business ,haircutting,but it is in his condo...This is very dangerous especially if there's no proof to the subs/slaves of this business except to go to his place and find out for sure...\

Now in my opinion he is advertising to every sub/slave to have their hair done and thats why he won't say in his profile he has someone under consideration,he lures them there and who knows what happens.. so much for the trust being there,..He may be deceiiving his sub under consideration and every woman online who reads his profile..But how do we prove it... Thanks all comments welcome.. And no he says nothing about being a saist or poly in any way.. thanks for the comments  I use to be lilserenity here commenting but lost my nic so Im this one now yuk anyway helppppp me get this matter handled  with your opinions..



I dont state who I have under consideration,I expect the submissives to make that note.
I do however post on Positive Meetings and if I collar someone.


I can see if the sub can put the person they are under consideration to..that might make a bit of a difference.  That way any sub that comes across it can know what's going on.

Just a side note:  You sound very suspicious of this dom already.  There is a reason you feel that way, and it's something you should probably trust.  He might be ok, but you seem to have red flags going on everyplace that you are hoping will vanish with time, or after you meet.  Chances are it won't get better, and you will be in it more fully than you are now.

If you really think he is the only one for you, nothing will stop you.  I can assure you though that there are plenty of other doms out there, no matter what he tells you.  By putting you under consideration, he is making sure you are off the market...by keeping his the same, he is very much keeping his options open.  I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be the one that he takes if no one else better came along.



Ummm huh what...am I missing something??


I agreed with what you said, then I went on to talk to her more..sorry, didn't clarify that in my paragraphs.

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 6:35:34 PM   
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Under consideration can mean many things,a Dom has many fish to fry?Many use this line as a way to perhaps gather up a harem,string a sub along until some thing better comes along.Never have the first meeting at his/her home,out in the open and perhaps take a friend along.A collar of protection or under consideration is a lame line if you ask me.WE always meet a sub for the first time in a public place and NO play usually on the first meeting.Each person must think of their safety first..Once burned is his fault twice burned is yours.Of course this works both ways,we have had subs to try to game us as well...bounty

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/18/2007 10:10:04 PM   
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I would think so.

To me, that's like a nilla not telling women he is engaged, only that he isn't married.


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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/19/2007 5:41:11 AM   
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MissOchistic,

Kindly don't take this the wrong way.  Not all submissives/slaves expect to have the same 'rights' or 'privileges' as their doms/owners.  That, naturally, is something that needs to be negotiated between themselves.  Either way, I wouldn't consider any declaration online to equate with an engagement in real life.  How seriously would you consider someone if they said they were engaged to a man they never met?

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RE: A BIG Question about considerations.. - 6/19/2007 5:50:14 AM   
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