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Medical Background - 6/19/2007 9:10:07 PM

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I got to thinking about this after my last post in the criminal background thread......

LA might pop up with a bunch of links..but gonna give this a whirl....

Now that we have pretty much established thoughts on crimal background....... how about medical?

This being more of NON PUBLIC information center thing... how do you go about getting information on one you want to get closer too. Shit out there Ajax won't wash off...other things that will kill you.

Yes there is birth control... condoms... for men and women....and a few other things to help you "feel" safe. But when you do you throw safety in the wind? After the first time?.. before the first time?... Just because someone says they're STD free? Even after a few months. Unless you've been to the doctor with them and it's even premitted for you to be in the room and listening to the doctor and this doctor showing you test results... where does this all come into play at... in trusting that your partner is STD and you can start to get even closer.

Yes this is another "trust" issue... but now you're playing with fire.... and for some... Russian Roulette

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RE: Medical Background - 6/19/2007 9:21:08 PM

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When I fuck or play with someone for a first time casually, I'll ask if there's anything they should tell me about their history or that I should know about as a sensitive issue before we start.

Then I assume the person is almost completely oblivious to any actual problem not mentioned and decide what risks I'm willing to take for myself.

I wouldn't ask for tests until we wanted to go for fluid exchange. I wouldn't ask for any serious medical background until we were getting into a serious emotional commitment together.

And no, this really has nothing to do with trust for me. Diseases and medical problems don't give a shit about trust and neither do I- I assess what risks I am ok with taking and then refuse to let them be compromised.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/19/2007 9:27:55 PM

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And no, this really has nothing to do with trust for me. Diseases and medical problems don't give a shit about trust and neither do I- I assess what risks I am ok with taking and then refuse to let them be compromised.

That about sums it up alright.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/19/2007 9:35:24 PM

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I am very open with my medical stuff, [I posted on it last year and I got a bunch of advice that I never took, some i did and it was great advice as for the rest if I had I would have taken some of it, I may have ended up with cancer or not had surgery]; beign in a relationship with someone means being open. I get tested every 6 months for everything - HIV, HPV, various STDs, etc; its been SOP the last 3 years. I do ask potential partners when their last STD and HIV tests were done, a few have brought me their paperwork to show it was in the last month. A few I have taken them at their word, but that is a rarity, an its something that I judge on a per person basis, I felt and feel VERY safe with MJ, so I did not ask Him for 'proof' if He had wanted proof I was 'clean' I could have gone to my dr's office and gotten a copy of my last few tests - everything negative, He didn't ask for those, so I didn't go across town. Since I am NOT on any birthcontrol {i have bascially run out of viable options}, condoms are kinda what has to be used.

As for the rest of my medical background, I keep any partner apprised of my current medical 'stuff,' I keep a list of my medications and allergies and conditions on a card in my wallet with emergancy contact info, as well as in my cell under "ICE" then my mother's name, best friends name and my sister. By the end of next week, I will have my medical bracelet and 'tags' that have info just in case.

MJ an I have talked about my medical stuff [where I keep my inhaler, imitrex, etc], heck, anyone can read about what I have faced the last few years in my off-site blog, I was very candid and open; MJ being a great friend the last few years has gone through a LOT with me, so He knows a lot. He also knows who to contact on my cell if something happens, etc.

I am a firm believer in discloseure with a parnter regarding anything that may come up or the like.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/19/2007 9:42:38 PM

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Basically, I agree with LA on this one. Germs, disease, viruses really don't care about how much you trust or want to trust someone. It's all well and good that people say "I'm d&d free"...show me the paperwork...

There's a good public service campaign going around. Basically, the caption reads something like, "1 out of 5 people won't tell their partners they're HIV+. Not because they don't care, but because they don't know." I hope I'm remembering that statistic correctly.

But I don't much care about a person's test results, unless we are talking about major commitment, and I can't put a time factor on that. Well, let me amend that slightly. In general, I care about people and so I do care about whether they are dealing with illness in their lives. And before I become sexually active with anyone, I ask. But if a person lies to me, or withholds information for whatever reason, because we have only known each other a couple of weeks...I would not be that surprised. And I would not be having unprotected sex with them (at least not willingly). But definitely when the relationship progresses to the point where we are considering being a fluid-bound couple, all cards have got to be laid on the table...so we know if we even want to take that risk. And by then, if that person cannot be honest with me, then something is seriously wrong and all bets may need to be canceled anyway. And I expect them to be respectful enough to show me the result. And I will show mine.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/19/2007 10:54:30 PM

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I'm with "House" on this one - everybody lies. It may be a small lie or a great big whopper, but I don't take the chance that this time the lie might threaten my health. I take whatever precautions I deem necessary to look after me.

I learned this lesson through contact with the swingers scene. Read their profiles and they all say they practise safe sex. In reality, almost none of them do. They get "carried away" or they "go with the flow" or they "pick your excuse/justification" but the condoms stay in their packets. It was a huge wake up call, and has made me more cautious than ever before
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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 4:33:24 AM

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I get tested twice a year at my 'lady dr.'visits...you have to ask for those tests though...I will call a Dr. friend that happens to
be a member of KAP if I want tested in between visits for whatever reason...just fyi--if they carry a blood donor card and have recently given, there is a good chance they are safe...that is no longer an option for me personally since I started loving tattoos...

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 5:25:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ELUSIVE1

..just fyi--if they carry a blood donor card and have recently given, there is a good chance they are safe...that is no longer an option for me personally since I started loving tattoos...

Blood donations tests only check for HIV and Hepatitis, and not for other stds like HSV2, HPV, etc. , so you really have no idea about those. Not to mention that it's a terrible idea to recommend blood donation as a method of health screening.

As for me, I have several long boring discussions with any potential sex partners, and only practice safer sex. I use condoms for birth control anyway, as I don't want to use horomones at my age. I also check with play partners about other health issues that may alter what I do with them.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 6:15:11 AM

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since Daddy is a Doctor by profession, i'm not allowed to play casually with others ...His main concern is about diseases and viruses i might catch from my partners. it's the main reason why sex wasn't allowed on 1st dates however it was up to my discretion (after receiving permission) if i wanted to after the 2nd date. i asked the men i've dated about their sexual history and how many active partners they're having sex with - it was used as determining factor for me.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 1:08:07 PM

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trust is difficult ... I trust my girlfriend very deeply .. but i wouldn't trust her ex as far as i could throw her - which is why we both got tested.
diseases of venus aside

what about other medical stuff? I would never play with someone without making sure as shit they were aware of my medical back ground but that is because mine is serious. This has made me very aware of the needs to learn about anything important from my partner - that goes for mental/emotional as well as medical background (there was a thread on this a couple of weeks ago). The seriousness of me playing warrants - for my peace of mind - me knowing these things about my partner. If i had gotten to this stage with someone then they would know me well enough to know i dont judge or frighten easily and i would treat that information shared as very precious and sensitive.

its all part of what we need to feel safe and secure with our partner ... some need it .. some dont ... i am one of the ones that does

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 2:01:29 PM

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I have a friend who trusted--he gave Her a death sentence. You're damn right about the medical---and if you won't tell Me, I am going to assume on the side of the worst---funny thing is at My stage of life, I am so active and sooooooo in need of being active---I ask about heart conditions, cuz honey I am damn sure to kill ya--but what a ride!

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 2:13:07 PM

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I knew someone who made me get a friggin HIV test before I could know her in the Biblical sense without a condom. Yeah, it ticked me off, but it was probably a good idea as much as I had played around. Heh.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 5:13:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

---I ask about heart conditions, cuz honey I am damn sure to kill ya--but what a ride!

LMAO.... this so does not surprise me 1 bit....

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 5:17:58 PM

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If we are exchanging bodily fluids then we are going to be tested prior to. If its just power exchange (no sex, no blood, no fluids) then no need to get medical tests.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 5:27:35 PM

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Thank you queen.... this was more on STD side of medical background... not the mental and other medical problems.

But then others do look that far in depth and it's understandable.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 5:30:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaMistressa

quote:

ORIGINAL: ELUSIVE1

..just fyi--if they carry a blood donor card and have recently given, there is a good chance they are safe...that is no longer an option for me personally since I started loving tattoos...

Blood donations tests only check for HIV and Hepatitis, and not for other stds like HSV2, HPV, etc. , so you really have no idea about those. Not to mention that it's a terrible idea to recommend blood donation as a method of health screening.

Amen, and thank you for bringing that up!

Blood donation is NOT NOT NOT a guaranteed method of STD testing! If a person has very recently acquired the disease/the virus, their blood will still test as negative! We don't test for the virus itself. We test for ANTIBODIES TO THE VIRUS, which take weeks or months for the body to make so that they show up in testing!

The virus can still be in your bloodstream and can be transmitted to another person, even though the test is coming up negative! That's why they tell you to stay monogamous and practice safe sex until you've tested negative repeatedly at three month and six month intervals. Then and only then can anyone be guaranteed to be "STD free".

This is probably the most common misconception about blood donations and STD testing. Just because you, or a pint of blood tests negative for a disease one time, it's not 100% guaranteed.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 5:35:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ELUSIVE1

just fyi--if they carry a blood donor card and have recently given, there is a good chance they are safe...that is no longer an option for me personally since I started loving tattoos...

Just a little side note.....every state is different, but in the state of NJ, since the regulations for safety, precautions, and cleanliness in the tattoo industry are so stringent and enforced these days, getting a recent tattoo in New Jersey is no longer a reason for deferment for donating blood

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 7:34:40 PM

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As someone who can't use condoms- yes this is true I can not use any type of condoms- I will spare the reason why unless people really want to know. Let's just say if I used condoms I wouldn't be having sex all that much. Anyways, I go in for an STD when I change partners adn six months later. If I have slept with more than two people in a six month span and if I find out that the single person I have been sleeping with has cheated.

I usually tend to take people at their word because I am not one to sleep around... whether just "buddies" or in a serious relationship. I can't even date more than one person at a time, let alone go on two different dates and end up in bed with both of them. Yes, of course I have had my one night stands (some of which have lasted two or three weeks) And yes I have had those meet at the club and fuck after in the alley thing.... that was when I was young stupid and depressed and didn't care.

I know better now... well I always knew better, I just didnt care then. Now I do. So I take the precautions I need to take and I feel they are sufficent enough for my lifestyle. And for all you people who are thinking this... yes I am on birth control.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 8:31:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: truesub4u

I got to thinking about this after my last post in the criminal background thread......

LA might pop up with a bunch of links..but gonna give this a whirl....

Now that we have pretty much established thoughts on crimal background....... how about medical?

This being more of NON PUBLIC information center thing... how do you go about getting information on one you want to get closer too. Shit out there Ajax won't wash off...other things that will kill you.

Yes there is birth control... condoms... for men and women....and a few other things to help you "feel" safe. But when you do you throw safety in the wind? After the first time?.. before the first time?... Just because someone says they're STD free? Even after a few months. Unless you've been to the doctor with them and it's even premitted for you to be in the room and listening to the doctor and this doctor showing you test results... where does this all come into play at... in trusting that your partner is STD and you can start to get even closer.

Yes this is another "trust" issue... but now you're playing with fire.... and for some... Russian Roulette

I don't think I've ever asked anyone for an STD test, then again the only person I've had unprotected sex with is my owner and we waited for about six years into the relationship before we took that step.

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RE: Medical Background - 6/20/2007 8:37:37 PM

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I showed my test results to my Daddy and he had a physical shortly before we met... both of us are HIV negative and I was tested for every disease that they test for... Neither one of us have had many partners nor risky ones...

Of course it is a trust issue, and I am constantly saying that if one would not trust their sex partner with their credit card or their atm, then why are they exchanging fluids with them? I did not exchange fluids with my Daddy at the very first, his insistence.....

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