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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 7:48:53 AM   
planomaid


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I'm wondering how people may have experienced this phenomenon with potential partners. I had recently been with a person who has a lot more experience than I do and seemed interested in me from a bdsm perspective. At one time, she admonished me because I was not serious about pursuing this relationship with her, so I rethought my energy and went in a full 100 percent. It was then that I started to realize that she's not really all that into me. Oh sure, she loves how I clean nonstop, give massages that stem from actual professional training and never try to force my fantasies into the mix. But concerning me, I never got a single bit of energy from her that indicated she was interested in me. I kept getting this sense that I was being held accountable for needing to be proactive about being into her, but that energy was never reciprocated. I kept thinking it would appear somewhere down the line, but it never did.

This isn't a complaint thread or a rant (even if it may seem like one). I'm curious if other submissives have experienced this and if dominants have ever recognized this happening as well. And there's no need for commiseration or condolences. Everything's fine in the little sarbonn world.



It's quite possible that she just only wants you around because of the service you provide her and she has no interest in you - beyond doing the minimal amount of effort to retain you.  It's really not much different than what a regular relationship that is based on convenience is.  However, in the BDSM world, it seems that there is an additional "hook" that is used to keep someone (i.e. as a submissive some dominants simply expect you to submit and serve them because you are submissive and they are dominant.  Your needs are ignored because, well, you are the submissive one.  Total crap in my opinion).

Like any other relationship you need to ask yourself is there something there for you?  Your desire to serve and please should not trump your desire for companionship and a meaningful relationship.  But, this a question that only you can answer for yourself.  I'd suggest you broach this subject to her, explain how you feel, and if you don't feel that she is or will reciprocate, then you either need to adjust your expectations to just serve her because it makes you feel good, or end the relationship and continue to seek what you desire elsewhere. 

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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 8:15:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: planomaid

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

I'm wondering how people may have experienced this phenomenon with potential partners. I had recently been with a person who has a lot more experience than I do and seemed interested in me from a bdsm perspective. At one time, she admonished me because I was not serious about pursuing this relationship with her, so I rethought my energy and went in a full 100 percent. It was then that I started to realize that she's not really all that into me. Oh sure, she loves how I clean nonstop, give massages that stem from actual professional training and never try to force my fantasies into the mix. But concerning me, I never got a single bit of energy from her that indicated she was interested in me. I kept getting this sense that I was being held accountable for needing to be proactive about being into her, but that energy was never reciprocated. I kept thinking it would appear somewhere down the line, but it never did.

This isn't a complaint thread or a rant (even if it may seem like one). I'm curious if other submissives have experienced this and if dominants have ever recognized this happening as well. And there's no need for commiseration or condolences. Everything's fine in the little sarbonn world.



It's quite possible that she just only wants you around because of the service you provide her and she has no interest in you - beyond doing the minimal amount of effort to retain you.  It's really not much different than what a regular relationship that is based on convenience is.  However, in the BDSM world, it seems that there is an additional "hook" that is used to keep someone (i.e. as a submissive some dominants simply expect you to submit and serve them because you are submissive and they are dominant.  Your needs are ignored because, well, you are the submissive one.  Total crap in my opinion).

Like any other relationship you need to ask yourself is there something there for you?  Your desire to serve and please should not trump your desire for companionship and a meaningful relationship.  But, this a question that only you can answer for yourself.  I'd suggest you broach this subject to her, explain how you feel, and if you don't feel that she is or will reciprocate, then you either need to adjust your expectations to just serve her because it makes you feel good, or end the relationship and continue to seek what you desire elsewhere. 


We often become trapped in relationships that are not healthy for us, but they still provide us with at least some of what we need.  So, I can only underscore what planomaid said, so my question to you is this: What are you willing to endure within a relationship that may not address or satisfy all of your needs? Only you can make that assessment, and the decision to either stay or go.  If you current relationship is providing some measure of satisfaction, then at least some of your needs are being met.  In any event, it is a learning experience that you can benefit from in future dealings of this type.


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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 9:27:38 AM   
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I've never taken a sub for service that I wasn't completely 'into' - I've always released a sub that didn't strike a deep chord in Me sometime after the first few weeks of physical one on one sessions.  If, after 12 weeks or so, the chemistry wasn't there for Me, I would always opt for a graceful exit.  No harm, no foul.

I have, however, allowed Myself the to be neglected/tanken for granted by a sub that I was "very much 'into'" but who just wasn't that 'into' Me.  I put ALL of My energies into meeting his needs, and he made a few nice efforts to meet Mine, but in the end he really just wasn't driven to spend time with Me.  It caused a disconcerting feeling of deep malaise, an angst, that finally permeated into every contact with him when the energy, chemistry and EFFORT was not reciprocal.

Eventually, I let go of the relationship because it never satisfied Me to the extent that I required.  I managed, finally, to 'take back My investment'.  Sort of like disciplining one's self to not overspend if you don't receive the quality goods in return.

I think that's the toughest part of this journey: finding that ebb and flow that you feel both coming from someone who thinks you're the Mostest, and flowing back from you to their soul because you think they're the Mostest, too. 

Without that, it just isn't worth pursuing the relationship further.

It MIGHT be worth keeping, though, as an occasional outlet for cravings, once you can set aside your feeling of disparate investment.  You might want to turn the tide, and just enjoy them from time to time, on your own terms.

; )

TexasMaam

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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 12:28:13 PM   
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Just drop it. I mean why do you even care? You know you belong to me and that I am the absolute woman of your dreams. Just stop the world turning, get off on mine and put an end to this insanity.

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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 1:36:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Just drop it. I mean why do you even care? You know you belong to me and that I am the absolute woman of your dreams. Just stop the world turning, get off on mine and put an end to this insanity.


And who of us can say that there really is no drama here?  I guess this says it all.


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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 2:28:47 PM   
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For starters, be super clear that you are looking for a life partner to worship and adore, not a Non-Sexual Dominant looking for service.   That should help weed out the users and the frigid.

Get the romantic attraction and mutual respect right first, not last

Just a suggestion.  Seems to have worked for my submissive.







I would agree with MsC about making it clear to what you are seeking. It might take some time to find that special someone.

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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 4:03:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Just drop it. I mean why do you even care? You know you belong to me and that I am the absolute woman of your dreams. Just stop the world turning, get off on mine and put an end to this insanity.


I am going to assume this is tonge-in-cheek but it brings up a good point either way.  When asking for advice about a kinky person, one thing NOT to do is ask in a public forum where that person is obviously reading and will know you are talking about them. While it might seem like a clever way of dropping major hints, it's really high-schoolish and can lead to unneeded drama.

Akasha


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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 4:19:02 PM   
DiannaVesta


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Just drop it. I mean why do you even care? You know you belong to me and that I am the absolute woman of your dreams. Just stop the world turning, get off on mine and put an end to this insanity.


I am going to assume this is tonge-in-cheek but it brings up a good point either way.  When asking for advice about a kinky person, one thing NOT to do is ask in a public forum where that person is obviously reading and will know you are talking about them. While it might seem like a clever way of dropping major hints, it's really high-schoolish and can lead to unneeded drama.

Akasha




I totally agree. Although he has mentioned in interest in pursing me now and over the years, he has not made that commitment. He's not talking about me in this thread but I find it interesting that he posted this, about someone esle all within the same week he has been asking me. Honestly it has been a little cat & mouse IMO, but reading this certainly makes me wonder.

So maybe when he gets back from his trip he'll let us all know what he's talking about! lol but seriously, it was in fun and I've told him all along that no matter what course we take that we are always friends first.

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RE: She claims to want you but really isn't all that in... - 6/24/2007 5:28:47 PM   
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Just sidetracking a little from this thread (sorry not meaning to hi-jack it) but the claiming they want you and then not really is also something that happens on line quite a lot.  From My perspective there are slaves/subs who after a first chat (and yes I am refering to only online IM or something) say they want to continue talking with a view to meeting. Then all of a sudden they vanish. No explanation, no nothing. They still here but just not talking. Even direct questioning about why and what's going on gets nothing back.

If people where just honest - yes some may not like it - but it would save a whole lot of time.

WyckedMystress

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