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k0432 -> executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 7:04:52 AM)

I realise that this is a question from "bdsm for fuckwits", but nonetheless ...

I'm lucky enough to have a beautiful sub who is interested in kidnapping role play; whereas I'm middle aged but very inexperienced in bdsm. Would people be interested in sharing their experiences in kidnap role plays. I'd be very interested in knowing what has worked and not worked for people. And I would need to be aware of all the health and safety aspects so as not to do something stupid and injure my woman.

If this is relevant, my sub is heavier than me, so as much as I'd like to, I won't be able to sling her over my shoulder.

I do want to stress that this would all be safe, sane and consensual.

Many thanks, again.

k.




mnottertail -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 7:09:13 AM)

be very circumspect with the public aspects, um, a firm hold of hair, a binding to a wrist, play gun or knife in the back........

your average KMart shopper can take that shit kinda wrong.

The idea that most of them look for is to be overpowered, overwhelmed and left without choice, well, that happens all over the world without blackjacks and everyone watching it on tv.  Maybe come up behind her as she is getting in the car, whisper in her ear and shove her in---- that kinda thing




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 7:41:05 AM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_364156/mpage_1/key_kidnapping/tm.htm#364269
kidnapping scenes

http://www.collarchat.com/m_948083/mpage_1/key_leather%252Cretreat/tm.htm#948097
abduction scene





Stephann -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 9:00:56 AM)

It'll help if you talk through the fantasy with her, before you actually do it.  It needn't be a sit down at the dinner table conversation; you can do it in bed, etc.  Make her talk about what she imagines.  See if it's about physically being overpowered, being humiliated, being immobilized, etc.  Make her be specific.  Offer your own suggestions, and see how she reacts.  Think details; use rope?  duct tape?  velcro?  Collars? chains?  Table or Chair? Sexual or not?  Anal, vaginal or oral penetration?  For a few hours, or a few days?  A 'public' act, or 'sneaking' into her room at night?

The more details you have, the more exciting it will be.

Oh, and make sure to brush your teeth first.

Stephan




mnottertail -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 9:27:15 AM)

Unless of course fetid breath is part of what's on the table.

Nyuk Nyuk.

Moe




LadyOpinx -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 9:45:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL:
Oh, and make sure to brush your teeth first.

Stephan


Sometimes, it just kills me how much civilized preparation we go through to make our Rough Sex seem rough.

I am sure that Ass Worship alone accounts for a huge percentage of the Fleet's Enema profits!!!

*giggles*

Lady O.




slaverosebeauty -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 11:56:16 AM)

A warning BEFORE you try a 'kidnapping' in a public place, remember that vanillas or law enforcement may be around, and THEY will see it as a REAL kidnapping and you can face serious criminal charges. Even if you try to explain that its all a 'game' of sorts, things can still happen. Personally I am opposed to this {I was almost kidnapped as a small child, so its a bad memory}, yet, others enjoy it, liek my girl friend and her hubby...
 
A girl friend of mine and her hubby did something similar; he worked the night shift and he told her, I will 'kidnap' you between 8 and midnight; she was to lock the doors as normal, the kids were at grandmas and she was to go about her normal evening routine like usual. The way she would know it was him, is that he would be wearing a certain brand of cologune; that night, after she had gone to bed, he let himself in, and he made his way to their bedroom, he 'kidnapped' her and put her into his truck with a blindfold on.. I won't tell the rest of the story.. but you get the idea. She said it was just waht she wanted, adn NO vanillas called the cops.




Leonidas -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 12:57:01 PM)

Yeah.  All you need is a deserted parking garage, some silk scarves, and a very scary looking friend.  Set it up with her that she will go to the appointed place, say a shopping mall or movie theater, and go to her car in the parking garage at some appointed time.  she is to open the door to the back seat of her car and lay her coat across the back seat, whereupon you gently push her in, bind her wrists with one scarf and then gag her with the other.  All of that she knows about.  What she doesn't know is that your big, scary looking friend (preferaby in gang attire) is going to show up about then, utter some profanity and threats toward you, maybe even struggle with you a little if there are no onlookers, demand the car keys, and then drive off with her trussed up pretty as you please in the back seat. 

After a few harrowing minutes of driving her around while demanding money and valuables, and telling her in detail what he'll do to her if he doesn't get them, he can pull into your garage and slip out, leaving you to the rest of your evening, which, she isn't likely to forget soon.

I wouldn't recommend doing this, by the way, unless you know your sub well, and you're pretty sure she doesn't have any medical condition that would be aggrevated by the adrenaline overload that she'll no doubt experience.





Evlgryn -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 2:48:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: k0432
I  realise that this is a question from "bdsm for fuckwits", but nonetheless ...
I'm lucky enough to have a beautiful sub who is interested in kidnapping role play; whereas I'm middle aged but very inexperienced in bdsm. Would people be interested in sharing their experiences in kidnap role plays. I'd be very interested in knowing what has worked and not worked for people. And I would need to be aware of all the health and safety aspects so as not to do something stupid and injure my woman.
If this is relevant, my sub is heavier than me, so as much as I'd like to, I won't be able to sling her over my shoulder.
I do want to stress that this would all be safe, sane and consensual.
Many thanks, again.
k.

Dear K0432, this is not a question for fuckwits. In fact true fuckwits are too stupid to ask this question, and the newspapers are full of the results. Every year somebody in this thing we do gets detained and sometimes arrested for being observed doing a kidnap scene. Recently some local high school kids thought it would be fun to act out a kidnapping in a parking lot. The cops didn't think it was fun at all and said so to the judge at their arraignment. The trick experienced people know about our play is we do it discretely and safely so that we can do the same fun things with the same fun people over again another time. Nobody gets banned from the hotel, nobody gets hurt  and  nobody ends up in jail.

So your question is the kind a smart person asks whenever he is not sure he has all the answers.
To play outside You need to control all aspects of who is seeing you and interacting with you which is a tall order. "There is always a little old lady looking out the window on every corner" a cop friend was fond of telling me. But carrying her off over your shoulder (another favourite) is not the only way to treat a hostage.

How about a home invasion? I heard a story that someone (not necessarily me, I got witnesses to swear I was out of town at the time) arrived at a friends apartment (she was expecting him) carrying a six pack of coke, a brown paper bag, and a pizza in an insulated sack. In the brown bag  he had a roll of duct tape, and a wicked looking knife ( to cut the duct tape officer I swear).  It all looked perfectly normal to anyone watching on the other side of locked door; nobody cares where the pizza guy goes. To further test this hypothesis (the story goes) before he found her place  , he misread the numbers and inadvertantly walked in the wrong open door.  The folk in there politely directed him on his way! Try doing that while not carrying a bag full of pizza. Or while carrying a toy gun: a previously suggested scenario, and something guaranteed to make the local constabulary testy.

If  a woman can't get enough thrill from a  man holding a knife and a roll of duct tape, she needs another man(unless she lives with her parents, then the whole deal is off). A little imagination can make any kind of bondage out of duct tape, they have websites devoted to it.

But the true genius of the scene is that when you have played your hind ends off, you have fresh pizza (those bags make a diffence) and soda to refresh the both of you so you can have another go a little later.






k0432 -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 5:40:18 PM)

Thank you all for your helpful advice. I will remember to brush my teeth :)

And to LA - you are worth your wait in ... ben wah balls, restraints, kennels, memory sticks ...

I'll now consult with my victim.

Thanks again,

k.




LadyHeart -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 6:12:59 PM)

My husband did a variant on a kidnapping that went like this:  We were going to a play party (I thought) and so he had me put on my gear, and sat me in the back seat of the car wearing wrist restraints and ankle restraints. He "kindly" gave me a walkman with earplugs and said he had some nice music for me to listen to. At the last moment he leaned in and snapped the cuffs together, then put a hood over my head that covered the ear plugs, so I was immobilized, blind and deaf to all outside sound, and shoved down on the back seat with a blanket over me. He then proceeded to drive all over town, making the most of opportunitites to swerve, slow down and speed up, brake suddenly - time seemed to stretch forever. By the time we eventually got to our destination I certainly felt as though I'd been kidnapped!  (It saves lifting your subby up! and is still a surprise!) Lucky subby, LOL
:))
LH




LadyHeart -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 6:26:56 PM)

I've remembered another variant on a kidnapping that someone told me about that also avoids lifting and discovery risks. The sub is tied up and blindfolded, you start to play, then pretend to hear a noise at the door, go to look, then come back as "someone else". If you have a co conspirator it works even better, but if you enjoy acting, you can do both parts - the mock scuffle and argument at the door, then the disguised voice of the home invader. A sinister half whisper works well....
:))
LH




cjenny -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 6:30:30 PM)

I think that would give me a panic attack [8D]




goodgirl85 -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 6:39:39 PM)

Did anyone ever watch the movie Jawbreaker? As much fun as I think it would be to do a kidnapping scene... that movie kinda put me off them




RealDom69 -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 6:56:33 PM)

Another variant which I fully intend to carry out once I find a suitable counterpart is a swap with another male Dom couple, Where I would bundle my subby into the boot of the car, blindfolded gagged and cuffed, drive to a prearranged rendevous, to meet the counterpart Dom and swap cars for the evening ... hehehe ..  then take the car  back to the rendevous point at the pre aranged time to claim my own subby back, during this whole time no blindfolds would be removed and no words spoken ..  the subbies would not know who they had been with  ... what a mind fuck ... of course limits and boundaries would be respected as would safe sex rules.

:))

Johnny Reble




angelic -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 7:18:21 PM)

i have not seen it goodgirl, maybe i should because being kidnapped is one of my fantasies.  Then again some fantasies should stay just that.  [&:]




LadyHeart -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 7:37:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RealDom69

Another variant which I fully intend to carry out once I find a suitable counterpart is a swap with another male Dom couple, Where I would bundle my subby into the boot of the car, blindfolded gagged and cuffed, drive to a prearranged rendevous, to meet the counterpart Dom and swap cars for the evening ... hehehe ..  then take the car  back to the rendevous point at the pre aranged time to claim my own subby back, during this whole time no blindfolds would be removed and no words spoken ..  the subbies would not know who they had been with  ... what a mind fuck ... of course limits and boundaries would be respected as would safe sex rules.

:))

Johnny Reble



Ooooooooooooo.............yummy........................
:))
LH




LadyHeart -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 8:00:25 PM)

The one I still want to try is getting my sub into the sidecar of my motorbike, suitably trussed, with the helmet disguising the fact that he is gagged and blindfolded, then driving him through the streets. He would have no idea what he looked like, who could see him - and a sidecar is scary enough to ride in at the best of times. I could mind fuck him into believing I was taking him through the main streets, where I was in fact sticking to back roads. It wouldn't be hard to do, as the bike is parked right beside one of the places in the garage where we have chains to tether subbies to. It's going to happen to some lucky sub one of these days....

:))
LH




RealDom69 -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 8:05:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHeart

The one I still want to try is getting my sub into the sidecar of my motorbike, suitably trussed, with the helmet disguising the fact that he is gagged and blindfolded, then driving him through the streets. He would have no idea what he looked like, who could see him - and a sidecar is scary enough to ride in at the best of times. I could mind fuck him into believing I was taking him through the main streets, where I was in fact sticking to back roads. It wouldn't be hard to do, as the bike is parked right beside one of the places in the garage where we have chains to tether subbies to. It's going to happen to some lucky sub one of these days....

:))
LH


And if you took him to the woods and tied him to a tree.................

:))

Johnny Reble




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: executing a kidnapping (6/21/2007 8:08:05 PM)

I always thought one of those "garage" style storage units would be a great place for the "rape" to occur




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